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Interesting question for the next President of UR

TBSpyder

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Which is the priority for your administration, being recognized for academics, or being recognized for athletics? The answer will be productive for discussion.
 
Candidly, I would not hire a president who said THE priority for his/her administration would be athletics. Would you?

I don't expect our school to revolve around athletics. I do expect that when we are investing $32 million in a program, we have clearly defined expectations for that program and a clearly defined course of action to take when those expectations are unmet.
 
I hope the new President understands Spiders don't run from a challenge, to be exceptional in everything we do. If the candidate thinks you can't excel in athletics and academics they are not the man/woman for the challenge.
 
unless the BOT goes specifically for a person like carrier was at umwcah, and would bet they are not, it will be someone who will pay lip service but academics, etc. will be the priority as it should be.
 
I don't see why this institution can't pursue both of those goals. Especially Basketball. 2 good players makes you a contender and 5 good players makes you a power.
 
Next President should be about building a community that embraces being exceptional in ALL facets of the university experience . . . and that does include athletics -- whether a participant or supporter. While academics is the #1 reason to attend UR and any college, developing relationships and experiencing all this community provides is also critical to preparing young people for the future and the real world.
 
if i was a new prez coming into a power 5 conf where millions are flowing in due to tv contract, conf affiliation and from donors and fans, athletics would be a priority but if coming into a lower conf where the millions are coming out of my pocket, not so much. yes, a part of the fabric, a plus but certainly not the same priority.
 
The search committee will find a new Prez who has a compatible view to the present BOT.Fundraising will be key variable in order to increase the $2.5 B endowment.Enhacing the already high academic standing of the school will also be high on the list.Concern over Mooney and the state of the basketball program Is probably # 25 on the list,best case.The overall health of the athletic programs and its facilities are likely somewhere in the mid teens along with overall student fees which support these extracurricular activities.
 
I think academics should always be UR's #1 priority. No doubt it's under the radar nationally as being one the best places to get a quality education. More resources put forth into academics probably won't make it more recognizable. Only sports will do that and the b-ball team for UR is the only possible outlet.

From everything I've learned here no doubt the higher ups have made a serious investment in wanting to see men's basketball progress to the next level. Watching one game on TV, the analyst was so surprised on how spectacular the Robins Center and campus looked. Of course he knew who UR was but never visited here. Kind of to me was an unintentional back handed compliment like, wow, such a great facility, why isn't the b-ball team better?

I still would like to see the Spiders get into the Big East even if it means being towards the bottom for awhile. Only can make them better and get recognized. No more road trips to LaSalle and Fordham.
 
+1, SouthJersey. Keep the emphasis on academics and gain entry to the Big East.
 
Well said Midlo. I sometimes feel the University is so focused on chasing rankings they no longer focus on the individuals
 
I see Kroger became the official grocery store of UR the season after Ukrop pulled out. Martins went over to VCU.
 
My Daughter noticed today that Kroger in Midlothian had huge VCU and UVA banners up, but no UR banner.
 
Originally posted by SpiderK:
My Daughter noticed today that Kroger in Midlothian had huge VCU and UVA banners up, but no UR banner.
An increasing trend today, even in some sports bars. Just not enough UR people to make happy to counter the larger schools
 
SpiderFan26 The University of Richmond has a number of factors that cause it to remain non existent to the local population. We have a very small local fan base that will only get smaller in the coming years. This is due to the unfortunate decision by the university to focus on accepting students from the Northeast and international venues.while Virginians have been ignored, Being a private institution with a 50K per year cost makes us even more unpopular with the general population. At present, the other D1 school in the city is having a run of very successful sports, espically in mens basketball, while we are struggling to have .500 seasons. Therefore that other school is the media darling. .
This post was edited on 2/16 1:41 AM by FrontRoyalSpider
 
sometimes these places put up banners as given to them by their customers. Why don't you check with the manager and see if they will put it up if you donate it. I know I did that with one place I frequent and 4 years later our NC banner still hangs in a place of honor
 
FRS you do realize that if UR only admitted central VA students, there would still be more vcu, jmu, vt, uva alums in the central VA area than we would have. The size of the school has more to do with your complaint than who we admit. BTW there was an article in the RTD last week about vcu admitting fewer minority students from the Richmond area than in the past. They were starting a study committee to see why.
 
EightLegger I certainly hope we would NEVER go D3!

A new university president will come into office with his/her agenda.

If UR was to select a "Cooper-type" president, no telling what direction our athletics will go.

Hopefully the new president will be 100% in favor of keeping UR D1..
 
URFan1, we will never be the size of the huge tax-guzzling state schools!
Due to our small alumni base. we will never draw the attention that the huge state schools receive from the public, the media or places of business.

We are what we are.

I am concerned that, given the current admissions policy, a time will come when the University of Richmond will not have any local alumni!
 
I am fairly confident that if UR drops D1 basketball the donations will dry up fast. I currently do not know a soul attending UR and I have lived in Richmond all my life. I haven't heard us mentioned by any of the local kids I know that are of college age. I think that is a huge problem for this school. There are plenty of very smart kids around here with money.
 
FRS, I have no idea why I am responding to this, but try to understand this: There are lots of kids from Virginia who go to Virginia schools and then get jobs in other states and move away! There are lots of kids from other states who come to school in Virginia and stay here after they graduate!

When I came to UR, I knew two other Virginia kids who came here. But all of the friends I made at UR were from other states. And guess what? Many of them still live in Richmond! Many of them post on this message board. Who cares that they were not from Virginia originally? They call it home now.
 
Eight Legger

When I was an UR student (1972-1976) I knew many Virginians who were classmates! I cannot quote exact numbers. However I knew more than two Virginians who were fellow students.

My family (all Virginians!) have three generations of UR grads!

I seriously doubt , since the 1970s, we have multiple generations from Virginia families having graduated from UR.


I think this is sad.

FRS


Go Spiders!
 
FRS - Just because you are not aware of something doesn't mean that thing is non-existent. Just among my circle of acquaintances there are at least four second generation UR grads from the Richmond area in the 2011 and later graduating classes. I have zero desire to get into any debate with you on this topic. Your sense of what is true is simply not accurate and repeating it endlessly does not make it so.
 
Thanks, 7678!
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Good night John Boy
Good night Mary Ellen
Good Night Grandpa
Good Night Pa
Good Night Erin

Good Night FRS!


It has taken me all these years, and I finally figured it out. Your a family member of the Waltons.
 
in real life, one of john boy's sisters lived near me and frs is no walton....
 
The issue with the new president being supportive of athletics will once again be a financial one, as a vast majority of decisions made at UR are based on economics.

I see very little chance of the school not being involved in D1 athletics because of two things:

1.) If we went D3, then athletic fundraising, and fundraising in general would take a big hit.

2.) The Queally factor comes into play as well, since stroking the big check that killed soccer and track was predicated on establishing a D1 Men's LAX program, I don't see a move to D3 happening during Queally's watch on the BoT.

That said, I could see a future discussion regarding a move to another D1 conference like the Patriot League taking place. Not that I would support a move like that, but the Patriot League is the top academic conference outside of the Ivy League, and we would be a better fit from a profile/peer institution standpoint. At the end of the day, I would not see a move to the PL as likely, because of the aforementioned money stream that the A10 provides (TV, NCAA revenue sharing - the ONLY reason I pull for VCU to be successful in the NCAA's, etc.).

I feel like the next president will be selected primarily on his/her perceived ability to fundraise, his/her ability to raise the academic profile of the university, and his/her ability to promote the university as a destination school for the desired student demographics. I think athletic leadership is very low on the priority list.
 
Originally posted by keefusb:
The issue with the new president being supportive of athletics will once again be a financial one, as a vast majority of decisions made at UR are based on economics.

I see very little chance of the school not being involved in D1 athletics because of two things:

1.) If we went D3, then athletic fundraising, and fundraising in general would take a big hit.

2.) The Queally factor comes into play as well, since stroking the big check that killed soccer and track was predicated on establishing a D1 Men's LAX program, I don't see a move to D3 happening during Queally's watch on the BoT.

That said, I could see a future discussion regarding a move to another D1 conference like the Patriot League taking place. Not that I would support a move like that, but the Patriot League is the top academic conference outside of the Ivy League, and we would be a better fit from a profile/peer institution standpoint. At the end of the day, I would not see a move to the PL as likely, because of the aforementioned money stream that the A10 provides (TV, NCAA revenue sharing - the ONLY reason I pull for VCU to be successful in the NCAA's, etc.).

I feel like the next president will be selected primarily on his/her perceived ability to fundraise, his/her ability to raise the academic profile of the university, and his/her ability to promote the university as a destination school for the desired student demographics. I think athletic leadership is very low on the priority list.
Anyone suggesting we would or should go D3 is insane.
 
WebSpinner, I grew up around forty miles south of where the Waltons lived...Grew up in The Hill City, Lynchburg! Wonderful place in which to grow up in the 1960s and early 1970s! By the way, The Hill City was successfully defended by the 3rd greatest Confederate General Jubal Early. His remains 'sleep" not too far from the resting places of my parents in Spring Hill Cemetery in Lynchburg..












This post was edited on 2/16 2:07 PM by FrontRoyalSpider
 
Originally posted by SpiderK:
I am fairly confident that if UR drops D1 basketball the donations will dry up fast. I currently do not know a soul attending UR and I have lived in Richmond all my life. I haven't heard us mentioned by any of the local kids I know that are of college age. I think that is a huge problem for this school. There are plenty of very smart kids around here with money.
I graduated from UR in 2011 and off the top of my head I can think of 4 classmates from the Richmond area. If I can think of 4 people who graduated with me who grew up in Richmond in a couple seconds, there are obviously a lot of them.

This post was edited on 2/16 2:06 PM by fan2011
 
I do agree that it would not be a good thing to go to D3, but if you look at the institutions (top Liberal Arts Colleges) that we strive to be like from an academic perspective, most of them are D3 schools (Swarthmore, Williams, Amherst, Carleton, etc.). Those schools occupy the top 5 or 6 academic positions in the liberal arts rankings. We rank somewhere around 30 with Patriot League schools like Bucknell, Colgate, Lafayette, Holy Cross, etc. clustered between 25 and 35.

I believe that raising $$$$$ and raising the academic ranking of UR will be the top two goals of the next president. If that individual thinks that moving to the Patriot League or going D3 will raise our academic profile without impacting fundraising, I think it is a distinct possibility for discussion, even if it is a long shot.

Weirder things have happened...
 
I believe there's a whole lot of people (myself included) that would stop donating if we went DIII or went to the patriot league.
 
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