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haha, exactly what I was getting at! Jack's contract attorney will be in touch .
So with 1 less walk on are people still for using that spot for a new 2nd walk on versus a 14th scholarship player? I’ve proposed in past using more bullets because Moon shoots so many blanks. Increase our luck quotient. So try for a good player on ship for the open spot. Also because UR views as true operational cost vs. pay to play.
I see no reason you aren’t paying for a guy unless there’s some rationale other than finances to do so, we can afford it.
I think the reality is that there’s going to be dilution in quality at that end of the bench, so it may just be closer to reality that guys who were formerly walk-ons are just now getting scholarships.
Realistically by conference play, only 8 or 9 guys are getting minutes a game. I’d rather concentrate our efforts and finances on getting fewer but more impact players than spreading it out to more scholarships and likely diluting the talent anyway. We don’t have a roster of impact players now. If our 12th or 13th guy aren’t playing, I can’t imagine it’ll be any better with the 14th or 15th guy anyway.
Generally true but you also need developmental guys somewhere. CMs system is more dependent on guys who have been in the system for a year or more to be closer to their max productivity.
Developmental guys are either ones who redshirt or maybe 10th or 11th guy on the bench. If someone is not redshirting or even getting garbage minutes at the end of games, then I don’t see things changing much in the future. That’s already happening right now with guys 12-13 on our bench. Adding a 14-15 scholarship player will only make that situation worse. I’d rather spend the time, money, and energy getting fewer players but are more confident they can make an 8 or 9 man rotation vs. more scholarship players who are less talented, hoping we find a diamond in the rough.
I want the very best 15 players we can find or buy. Mooney thought he had 8 or 9 really good ones last year and was obviously wrong. He might be wrong on all 15 too, but give me the potential that one or two of those pan out as opposed to hoping one of 8 or 9 pan out.
Yeah, I assume we are already doing what you’re proposing. If we can’t find and develop the best 8-9 guys you’re proposing, it stands to reason that having a couple more guys in the pipeline statistically gives you more options in year or in an out year. That’s just math.
Keep in mind we’ll probably developmental redshirt 2 of the frosh again next year. I don’t like it, mainly because it means that again we are not getting hs recruits that r good enough to play early. But expecting it at this point based on past year strategy & the couple guard transfers in. Idk what the average is for men’s bball developmental/non medical redshirts is but I’d guess less than 1. If we have 2 which imo is a decently fair assumption that’s 2 less spots available for pt anyway.
If I see a developmental redshirt next year I may claw my eyes out.
A good coach is better with average players than an average coach is with good players. We are the latter.
A good coach wins with his players, a great coach wins with the players he has.
Agree - I think the guys at the end of the bench that were walk-ons before, now get scholarships. Honestly - I have no issue with it. They do the same amount of work as the rest of the team, so why shouldn't they. The main difference will be - these guys don't get NIL or paid from the school. That will be how you differentiate the guys at the end of the bench. I could see the bigger schools moving away and trying to get 14 solid guys and if some don't pan out - you got reserves OR they use the same model, which saves them some "pay" money to only use on the top 10 players. So that 3-4 million per year goes to 10 players, and the last 3-4 guys are walk-ons who just get scholarships.
as for "the guys at the end of the bench that were walk-ons before" ... that's D'Entremont, Weaver, Graham, and Mooney.
D'Entremont graduated. Weaver and Graham have already hit the portal. I doubt they'd do that if offered a scholarship. so there goes that theory.
D'Entremont graduated. Weaver and Graham have already hit the portal. I doubt they'd do that if offered a scholarship. so there goes that theory.
if they just wanted to play basketball somewhere I don't think they come to Richmond as walkons in the 1st place.
you think if they were offered scholarships at UR for next year, after walking on without scholarships, that now they'd leave?
I could see a three- or four-year walk-on wanting to go play a full season for his senior year. Granted they probably would stick for the degree, but didn't at least one of them already graduate?
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