Dartmouth MBB players seeking unionization
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They'd get to be university employees and could collectively bargain for all sorts of stuff...benefits, working hours, dorms/food. Things are sure changing quickly.
I doubt hoops is profitable in the Ivy league. ask for pay and benefits and Dartmouth might just drop the sport. imo, those players are fortunate to play D1 and get that degree, which pays off for the next 40 years.
Not shocking that some players would try it. Now that they are getting stipends from schools and payments from others, in addition to scholarships, it's an easier leap to make. Could be interesting to watch. The O'Bannon case seemed like a longshot initially too, and we know how that ended up.
in this case, they don't get scholarships. only D1 conference men's basketball conference that doesn't. maybe that's what they're fighting for, from a union angle?
The “semi-pro” colleges will break off into a subsidiary of professional sports. The others will decide if they want to just sponsor club sports or agree to scholarships offering tuition, room and board and some limit on spending money. FB, MBB and BB has turned into a cesspool of a bunch ofpampered kids from early on with travel teams and promises. The “semi-pro” colleges will eat themselves by lack of control. The kids will be used and the level of abuse will not even compare to their perceived level of grievances of today. Let’em have at it.
I foresee a split, but at the same time I don’t know how it will manifest itself. As we all know, this is really a football issue that has trickled down to D1 basketball. One question is whether football is even sustainable as a sport since it SEEMS like there are a growing number of parents who are jot signing up their sons to play football. Personally, my Dad was way ahead of the curve on this and told me to hit the fledging sport of soccer that I was not going to play football.
The second question is what is does the future of college basketball look like. Over the last decade I have been in the Robins Center and I don’t see the same level of engagement by the student body as when I was in school. In my own family I have one daughter who loves sports and one who could care less and based on the biased small subset of students that associate with my kids it again SEEMS like the majority are in the apathetic crowd.
Last, it cones down to what does “minor league” football look like. Could it still be associated with a college/university? Would there be a “farm system”? Would there simply be regional teams as it is with all the European sports?
The second question is what is does the future of college basketball look like. Over the last decade I have been in the Robins Center and I don’t see the same level of engagement by the student body as when I was in school. In my own family I have one daughter who loves sports and one who could care less and based on the biased small subset of students that associate with my kids it again SEEMS like the majority are in the apathetic crowd.
Last, it cones down to what does “minor league” football look like. Could it still be associated with a college/university? Would there be a “farm system”? Would there simply be regional teams as it is with all the European sports?
So far, in the short term I think it has raised the level of the college hoops scene. There are probably 30 to 50 guys like Burton that would be gone, but are back up to NIL bucks. Bacot at UNC and so many more. And this piling up because the guys in school just for hoops are not looking to jump to lower level pro leagues.
I'm not sure how this goes long term, but short term I think much more talent on rosters. I do think we are headed to a bunch of scandals and complaint among the p6 schools and some type of new rules, if the NCAA even has any authority at that point.
I'm not sure how this goes long term, but short term I think much more talent on rosters. I do think we are headed to a bunch of scandals and complaint among the p6 schools and some type of new rules, if the NCAA even has any authority at that point.
I would be totally fine with football breaking off to go its own way, whatever that ultimately looks like, so that the rest of college sports can go back to normal.
I doubt Dartmouth is the right program to go after this, but some programs are making a ton of money for their university.
if you're making a ton of money for a company, do you just accept what little they give you, or do you try to negotiate?
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