Big time programs are just not forgetting about 6'6 guys who can shoot. There is a reason he didn't have any better offers than he did. I hope he is all that and a cup a tea but his offer list is not that impressive. We were the best offer he had, so kind of obvious why we won this sweepstakes.I like seeing these sources saying he should have had better offers, because his offer list wasn't super strong with only Bona on our level among his top 7. The question remains why he didn't get the better offers though.
Still like what I've seen and his stats, though I know my limits and try to keep from evaluating guys too much based on highlights.
I don't think it's that easy. big time programs didn't offer Tyler Burton either and he's got a legit shot at playing professionally. I think a lot of programs now wish they offered Tyler.Big time programs are just not forgetting about 6'6 guys who can shoot. There is a reason he didn't have any better offers than he did. I hope he is all that and a cup a tea but his offer list is not that impressive. We were the best offer he had, so kind of obvious why we won this sweepstakes.
I'm not saying he won't be good. Just saying there was a reason he wasn't offered by bigger programs. For every Tyler, we hit on, we have 4-5 Diekvoss and Kovien's. I hope he is a star for us. HIs offer list gives me pause though.I don't think it's that easy. big time programs didn't offer Tyler Burton either and he's got a legit shot at playing professionally. I think a lot of programs now wish they offered Tyler.
Collin's a priority target that we landed.
guess I'm asking what was the reason bigger programs didn't offer Tyler? he's super athletic, a great shooter, 6'7" and well built.I'm not saying he won't be good. Just saying there was a reason he wasn't offered by bigger programs. For every Tyler, we hit on, we have 4-5 Diekvoss and Kovien's. I hope he is a star for us. HIs offer list gives me pause though.
I was drawing blanks on names on some of Mooney's recruiting misses. Smithen, Friendshuh, Sal, Schneider are all guys that had some nice lower level offers (Sal had a couple BCS offers) as well.The Bona offer reassures me some...more with less, after all.
Dominaus had no other offers as I recall. Diekvoss had only Northern Kentucky, and they were still transitioning to D-I at the time I believe. Tanner's recruiting profile is a heck of a lot better than those guys.
I have read plenty articles that Providence offered and actively was recruiting Burton out of high school.
And 6-foot-7 Tyler Burton, two inches taller than his father, considered Providence before he chose Richmond. Burton said as a junior in high school he met with Providence coach Ed Cooley.
“He told me he didn’t really believe [Providence] was the right spot for me,” said Burton. “So, just personally, thinking about it, it’s definitely a chance to shine right here.”
Quinton Burton said he believes Cooley’s message was based on the players who were in the Friars program at the time, and the players from whom Providence had already received commitments.
I agree, Schmidt offering him, makes me feel a bit better and his other offers are not dumpster mid major programs either, so that is good.
Just providing some balance and critique.
ok, I was doing a google search on this, first article I find said "The Friars were heavily involved in recruiting Tyler Burton coming out of high school". Guess I need to read the fine print, they pulled the rug on him apparently.Nope, Providence didn't want him.
BUFFALO — For three years, Quinton Burton has watched University of Richmond games and Providence games. He can do both Saturday.richmond.com
Although his game is different, I was wondering how Tanner's list compared to Cayo's.guess I'm asking what was the reason bigger programs didn't offer Tyler? he's super athletic, a great shooter, 6'7" and well built.
I can't explain it. seemed to have everything a higher major would want. not a finished product, but had the pieces to work with. yet none of the bigger programs gave him a shot.
Collin's list is a lot like Grant's. not at all like Diekvoss or Kovien's. hope we found another 2,000 point scorer.
I always thought those were misunderstandings. a real offer is actionable.Right, I remember talking to a guy I played with in 30+ hoops league, and his experience was similar to the PG that played for Beilein, Myers maybe? I remember an article in which he talked about contingent offers. Basically, you have an offer from school X, but they are waiting on players A, B, C, and D - if those fall through we want you. Guy in my 30+ league played D2 - he had some low level D1 offers - but he said he was always 5th or 6th down the list.
Of course with the portal and evolving recruiting game it is probably much different - but yes I am sure guys list schools that have gave them a contingent offer of some sort - but not actionable at this minute.
Yep, that's not an offer. Not even close, and it would certainly backfire on kids if they starting putting offers that were not 100% out there as fact. If I told a guy he was not our #1 priority, and we would have to wait to see how things played out, and he put out there I offered him, I would have to set the record straight because I wouldn't want that affecting any other offers I was considering making. Sometimes, you just have to laugh at what you hear on here.I always thought those were misunderstandings. a real offer is actionable.
that's like "I want you hire you ... if Ted doesn't accept my offer". that's not a job offer.
anyway ... 8 surmised that kids were putting those kid of "offers" on their final list. I've never heard of that. I assume that's just a theory?
^ this is my understanding.Almost every offer is contingent on something, even if it's just contingent upon the guy grabbing the slot before anyone else does. You're always going to put out more serious offers than you have slots because you're very unlikely to bat 100% and if you wait for a guy to decide and he goes elsewhere, you're too far behind on a Plan B.
But yes, the tricky part comes when Plan B guy wants to commit but you'd really prefer Plan A guy for obvious reasons and he hasn't decided. Our interchangeable pieces help some in that regard, as outside of a PG and a C, you can be pretty flexible about taking multiple "best available" guys and be able to recruit like 4–5 interchangeable guys for 2–3 spots. Then it only comes to crunch time when you're down to your last slot.
yeah, but you thought Providence wanted Burton.I could not find the article, but clearly remember Jeff Myers talking about contingent offers - i.e. you have the slot if player A,B,C don't come. That is not actionable. Basically was the gist that was how he came to Richmond, had to wait for other guys to fall through.
Well in my defense:yeah, but you thought Providence wanted Burton.