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Cayo is back!

This is terrific news and I believe a great decision by Cayo. He is going to have a great year next year and up his game, which is already at a high level. Mooney deserves a lot of credit for the loyalty he has built with his players. Over a thousand players in the transfer portal, but no Spiders! Can't wait till next year.
 
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Definitely the two most likely to return given they were the two guys who have only been around for four years. But they also fill two of our biggest needs...for sure Cayo, and somewhat Gilly. While I think we could have been okay at PG without him, hard to say no to one of the best we've ever had.

Would still like to add a quality big man for next year, but if it's not Grant, it's hard to see how a grad transfer could immediately step in and be effective in our system. At a minimum we need a frosh or younger guy to build for the future.
 
good to have Cayo back too.

no excuses again for Mooney & ncaa return next year tho he finds them.

Just add a legit transfer there is a ton of talent in portal & all eligible.
 
Just add a legit transfer there is a ton of talent in portal & all eligible.
sounds great, but I've got my 9 man rotation now. and that's assuming no freshmen push their way in.

guys transferring now are looking at options with clear playing time. plenty of schools have big holes. I don't see ours, unless a guy better than Matt and Sal is available. and guys better than them are going to have a ton of phone calls. but it's possible I guess.
 
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sounds great, but I've got my 9 man rotation now. and that's assuming no freshmen push their way in.

guys transferring now are looking at options with clear playing time. plenty of schools have big holes. I don't see ours, unless a guy better than Matt and Sal is available. and guys better than them are going to have a ton of phone calls. but it's possible I guess.
I’d absolutely consider our 5 position a hole if grant doesn’t come back. Having to start Grace or Sal is the definition of a hole. Nothing against those guys but we’d much rather have them coming off the bench.

There are probably dozens of 5s who are better than those guys who are available. Better or at least providing a different skill set (Darrius Garrett type). Go get one Mooney!
 
Definitely the two most likely to return given they were the two guys who have only been around for four years. But they also fill two of our biggest needs...for sure Cayo, and somewhat Gilly. While I think we could have been okay at PG without him, hard to say no to one of the best we've ever had.

Would still like to add a quality big man for next year, but if it's not Grant, it's hard to see how a grad transfer could immediately step in and be effective in our system. At a minimum we need a frosh or younger guy to build for the future.
Hopefully Grant comes back, but if he doesn't, I think we are much stronger at the center position than people are giving credit. We have 2 more years of Sal and Matt and I expect them both to improve a lot over that time.

I am hopeful we will see at least one more return.
 
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Glad to have Cayo back--can't remember who said up top that Mooney has no transfers this year, but Andre Weir is one. Big one too, I felt he could have brought toughness and grit down low.
 
I’d absolutely consider our 5 position a hole if grant doesn’t come back. Having to start Grace or Sal is the definition of a hole. Nothing against those guys but we’d much rather have them coming off the bench.

There are probably dozens of 5s who are better than those guys who are available. Better or at least providing a different skill set (Darrius Garrett type). Go get one Mooney!
I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw from Matt and Sal with Grant out, but I agree it's still a weak spot for us. As I mentioned a few posts up, what we ask of our center is pretty uncommon, so it's tough for a new guy to step right into the role. I am very intrigued by the idea of a Garrett-type guy who could provide something completely different as a change of pace though.
 
JOC with some quotes from Nate:

Cayo called the option to return “a good opportunity. It’s a place I’m comfortable in. I have a lot more to prove … Keep winning, show more aspects of my game, and get a chance to play with my teammates again.” [...]

Cayo called the decision of Gilyard, a four-year starter and one of the A-10’s top guards, “a big plus” for Richmond’s program and said that influenced his choice to return. The Spiders’ other seniors, 6-10 Grant Golden, 6-0 Blake Francis, and 6-4 Nick Sherod, who missed this season with a knee injury, have not announced their decisions.

“I would hope for the others, but I’m not going to comment on that,” said Cayo.
 
“I would hope for the others, but I’m not going to comment on that,” said Cayo.

Sounds like more may come.
 
I’m always for what the players want to do but personally I’m not happy about anyone coming back. What are they coming back for? To maybe go one round further in the NIT? Because that’s all this program is capable of as long as Mooney is leading it. Now with two of the seniors coming back it virtually guarantees Mooney is the coach for at least another two years because this team can only be but so bad with Gilyard and Cayo back. I really hope I’m wrong and I hope someone saves this post and then re posts it around this time next year when we hopefully at least make it into the field of 68.
 
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I'm happy that Gilyard and Cayo are coming back but I personally hope that's it. We need to move on and not repeat the disappointment of 2020. We need some of the other guys to get time like they did in the NIT. I grew tired of Grant's body language and complete lack of rebounding and defense. And I'm convinced that Blake took more away from other guys than he contributed
 
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Definitely the two most likely to return given they were the two guys who have only been around for four years. But they also fill two of our biggest needs...for sure Cayo, and somewhat Gilly. While I think we could have been okay at PG without him, hard to say no to one of the best we've ever had.

Would still like to add a quality big man for next year, but if it's not Grant, it's hard to see how a grad transfer could immediately step in and be effective in our system. At a minimum we need a frosh or younger guy to build for the future.
Is our offense so complicated that a competent player can’t pick it up in an offseason?

If so, strike against our offense. This basically says to me we have to get the stars to align with experienced players in order to be successful.
 
I’m always for what the players want to do but personally I’m not happy about anyone coming back. What are they coming back for? To maybe go one round further in the NIT? Because that’s all this program is capable of as long as Mooney is leading it. Now with two of the seniors coming back it virtually guarantees Mooney is the coach for at least another two years because this team can only be but so bad with Gilyard and Cayo back. I really hope I’m wrong and I hope someone saves this post and then re posts it around this time next year when we hopefully at least make it into the field of 68.

Maybe they could win despite Mooney, not because of. A bunch of 24-year-old 6th year seniors could do that. Yep
 
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I don't see ours, unless a guy better than Matt and Sal is available.
There are demonstrably better players than Matt and Sal out there. Both showed some promise in the nit but the book on them otherwise is super sketchy.

Having Nate back takes some pressure off but get a young guy to replace Andre weir, he will likely be eligible next year under one-year transfer rule.
 
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Guess these guys are spreading it out so they are sure to get their own 15 minutes. I am perfectly fine with that.
 
I look at it this way: I’d like to see most of the seniors come back and give this another shot during a normal year. Hopefully without any distractions, they have the season that we all expected this year, which would be great. If they fail again to make the tournament, I’m not sure what more anyone would need to see of Mooney to understand that he’s not the guy.

Considering that Queally is now making enough of an ass of himself that his own board had to censure him today, he may not be around to bail Mooney out either.
 
Is our offense so complicated that a competent player can’t pick it up in an offseason?

If so, strike against our offense. This basically says to me we have to get the stars to align with experienced players in order to be successful.
Well, yes…the past 16 years have pretty much proven all of that.
 
I look at it this way: I’d like to see most of the seniors come back and give this another shot during a normal year. Hopefully without any distractions, they have the season that we all expected this year, which would be great. If they fail again to make the tournament, I’m not sure what more anyone would need to see of Mooney to understand that he’s not the guy.

Considering that Queally is now making enough of an ass of himself that his own board had to censure him today, he may not be around to bail Mooney out either.
Yes, and it would be nice to actually see them play.
 
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Well, yes…the past 16 years have pretty much proven all of that.
Perhaps so. I guess I’d argue that our problems the last 5+ years are actually defensive in nature so it’s tough to assign the full 16 year experiment difficulties just to learning our offense.

Btw, I recognize there’s probably a sarcasm font missing somewhere on your post.
 
No sarcasm intended. It’s seemed pretty clear that our peaks were when we had experienced big men who were forced to learn on the job early due to a lack of better options and had a couple years to really mature into the role we need them to play.

(Geriot is a bit of an outlier when you look at stats, but I would still argue he was a smarter/better player later in his career…it’s just that he was forced to score more early simply because we didn’t have anybody else, and then injuries took their toll on his scoring production and minutes.)

And yes, I’m only talking about offense…defense has absolutely been an issue for us in recent years.
 
Considering that Queally is now making enough of an ass of himself that his own board had to censure him today, he may not be around to bail Mooney out either.

I didn’t see anything about the board censuring him just a faculty group. Regardless not a Good Friday for PQ.
 
sounds great, but I've got my 9 man rotation now. and that's assuming no freshmen push their way in.

guys transferring now are looking at options with clear playing time. plenty of schools have big holes. I don't see ours, unless a guy better than Matt and Sal is available. and guys better than them are going to have a ton of phone calls. but it's possible I guess.

have your 9? No offense sman but I don’t want u handling roster construction. I feel like depth is talked up here every year. We r brittle. we could still have transfers of our own. & frankly 5 of the 9 r not exactly proven & irreplaceable anyway.

Plus a transfer is not solely for next season. It would be roster management beyond that too. We have 2 ships any seniors returning don’t count. We should still be managing 2 ships no matter what. This year gives u some leeway there but we have to be in the portal for minimum 1 imo. No way we should not be recruiting Justin mcKoy or so many others. Too much there. & more known quantities.

lets create some comp on the roster. Fight for roles. I guarantee mortal lock it VCU will pick up a transfer. & they have way more depth than us. But they want to make their roster even better. it’s a winning mentality. Nobody standing around saying nah I got my 9.
 
Looks like VCU will definitely need guys…they’re only at 11 right now with Clark and Bacon vacating. Sounds like Stockard may come back, but Douglas seems very unlikely.

Anyway, kind of exciting to think of the depth and competition if everybody can be healthy. If we only lose Grant and Blake but have at least four new guys plus Crabtree in the mix, that sounds decent to me. Just find me a young big somehow someway and I’ll be pretty happy with the roster.

Only gap is that I don’t see an all A-10 level experienced big man walking through the door, but I can live without one for next year as long as we’re planning for the future.
 
Plenty out there to be had on the waiver wire, but I agree, Mooney is not the guy to harvest one.
 
I have watched successful NCAA teams like UCLA and Villanova play without dominant big man and win on
good defense and balanced scoring. If we are left with Sal and Matt, but play pressure defense like we did in the
NIT then we should be OK. We have the depth at the 1-3 positions to keep all fresh and play pressure defense.
 
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