Around the A-10: 2024–25 Edition
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Huge 2nd half comeback for the Flyers - I can't help but root for Malachi Smith - given his multiple injuries that started when in the A10 tourney game against us in '22
A-10 goes 7–2 today with Dayton over Marquette, Bona over Providence, and VCU over Colorado State. Only losses were La Salle to UNC and of course us.
Spiders dead last in the A-10 in KenPom at 209, though Duquesne (205) and UMass (206) aren't much better.
Spiders dead last in the A-10 in KenPom at 209, though Duquesne (205) and UMass (206) aren't much better.
Good wins by the A10 tonight with Bonnies over Providence, VCU over Colorado State, and Dayton over Marquette. Bonnies, VCU, Dayton, Loyola, and Rhode Island in good chance to be at-large with a good A10 performance. Key OOC games left for at-large bids:
Loyola v. U. San Francisco
VCU v. New Mexico
Dayton v. Cincinnati
Dayton v. UNLV
George Mason v. Duke (if Mason pulls this off they will certainly be back in at-large convo)
Temple v. Rhode Island
Less key for team getting at-large but still good wins for A10
SLU v. Illinois State
SLU v. Grand Canyon
Davidson v. Temple
Virginia Tech. SJU
Arizona State v. UMass
Loyola v. U. San Francisco
VCU v. New Mexico
Dayton v. Cincinnati
Dayton v. UNLV
George Mason v. Duke (if Mason pulls this off they will certainly be back in at-large convo)
Temple v. Rhode Island
Less key for team getting at-large but still good wins for A10
SLU v. Illinois State
SLU v. Grand Canyon
Davidson v. Temple
Virginia Tech. SJU
Arizona State v. UMass
I won't disclose my exact conversation but suffice to say I dropped a few Woj bombs on him. Good sized contingent made the trip, or maybe a lot of area Bonnies fans.
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All of this while we’re on track to have our worst season in 10+ years. Ugh.
Loyola gave up 52 2nd half points and lost to the Don's by 10 at neutral site.
2024 final kenpom numbers:
Dayton 32
VCU 75
Duquesne 88
Richmond 89
UMASS 92
Loyola 93
Mason 97
St. Joe's 99
St Bona 102
2025 kenpom:
Dayton 26
VCU 42
Mason 81
St Bona 82
Rhode Island 93
Loyola 94
St Joe's 104
Davidson 115
GW 145
He uses kenpom for reference, and then says A 10 is stacked? Not according to kenpom, they aren't.
Dayton 32
VCU 75
Duquesne 88
Richmond 89
UMASS 92
Loyola 93
Mason 97
St. Joe's 99
St Bona 102
2025 kenpom:
Dayton 26
VCU 42
Mason 81
St Bona 82
Rhode Island 93
Loyola 94
St Joe's 104
Davidson 115
GW 145
He uses kenpom for reference, and then says A 10 is stacked? Not according to kenpom, they aren't.
Its a bad year for UR to not be competitive in the A10. First time in many years there are multiple teams having good OOC seasons. It would have been exciting.
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8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Dayton has already played the same amount of Q1 games that we are projected to play all season, good grief. Not that it matters since we weren't going to be contending for an at-large bid anyway it's just sad to see the gulf between them and us. They beat the back to back defending national champs by 20 and we lose to Marist and Bucknell for Pete's sake 😫
Bonnies are 10-1. Not a great schedule - but they have a chance to enter A10 play with only 1-2 losses.
VCU of course has looked good - they have another good game coming up with New Mexico.
St. Louis is 6-4 - but I Avila has battled ankle injuries. If he stays healthy - I think that is a dangerous team in the A10.
St. Joes is doing St. Joes things. Should be good - but stumbled to 6-4 so far. But again - another team to keep an eye on in A10 play.
Dayton - making a case already for at-large bid contention. Big win vs. Marquette - but they also have UNLV and Cincy coming up. They win both those games - they will continue to climb.
VCU of course has looked good - they have another good game coming up with New Mexico.
St. Louis is 6-4 - but I Avila has battled ankle injuries. If he stays healthy - I think that is a dangerous team in the A10.
St. Joes is doing St. Joes things. Should be good - but stumbled to 6-4 so far. But again - another team to keep an eye on in A10 play.
Dayton - making a case already for at-large bid contention. Big win vs. Marquette - but they also have UNLV and Cincy coming up. They win both those games - they will continue to climb.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Barring a complete collapse the Flyers are already locked into the field.
On the CBS basketball show, Nolander said he thinks the A10 can get 3 teams in the NCAAs this year. I think the OOC results give the A10 a much better shot at 2 again this year, but I will be surprised if the A10 manages to get 3.
VCU could play themselves into the bubble - but they will need to win rest of OOC and beat Dayton in A10 play. Their scheduling gives them Dayton twice, if they can beat them once - it will give them a boost. And of course - they likely need to finish top 2-3 in the A10.
Not saying it puts them in at-large bid, but gets them in conversation.
Other than that - agree - everyone pretty much needs to win A10 tourney.
Not saying it puts them in at-large bid, but gets them in conversation.
Other than that - agree - everyone pretty much needs to win A10 tourney.
Woj will get Bonnies in. Dayton in. VCU will get in one way or the other, it's what they do. They have the brand now.
True - I do think at the end of the day, it is a committee of humans making the selections. And if your a team like VCU - who has had a history of making the tourney, sometimes winning games - its hard to ignore that fact when you might come up against 2 resumes that are very similar. Its not everything - but it certainly doesn't hurt to have that on your side.
Bonnies - we will see if they are real come A10 play. Their schedule is not great, but not awful either. And give them credit - they have taken care of business.
I wonder - what would our NET be if we had won lets say all of our games - except Auburn and Belmont. Where would that have placed us?
OT. Wow, Hubert is getting worse and worse. I think they gave up offensive rebounds on about 15 straight possessions. Either coaching or recruiting but no one that can grab a board.
Belichick and Golden in the Carolinas tonight? Lock up your daughters.
And get off my lawn 😀😃🙂
Belichick and Golden in the Carolinas tonight? Lock up your daughters.
And get off my lawn 😀😃🙂
Line 2 dude is Shams, and the Pants is Robbie Avila.
Other than Dayton who from the A1O will make the NCAA's if they don't win the A10 tournament?
Who you got?
Dayton as single seed, Woj strong arms committee for Bonnie’s first four, and you guys win in DC…
3 teams have 1 loss. Bonnies RI and Loyola. Are you saying that if they finish OOC play with just 1 loss and then go 14-4 in league play, going 27-5, they wouldnt have a chance to get a bid? If thats the case, why even play the damn games? I think you are way off here. A10 will be viewed as having a strong year by virtue of a number of teams having strong OOC records.
Apparently some have forgotten the schedule discussion at the beginning of the year.
Spiderman did some digging and compiled this list early on
Later there was a graphic post from X that now isn’t showing in the thread, but it was a final review once all the schedules were complete and suffice to say there wasn’t any improvement. Dayton is the only team with a quality OOC and they have won. Dayton can get in the tournament as an at large. The rest need an A10 tournament victory.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Dayton currently has two Q1 wins.
The rest of the A10 combined has one.
The rest of the A10 combined has one.
2-2 in Q1 games (beat UCONN and Marquette, lost close games to UNC and Iowa State).
and they play #19 Cincinnati tonight.
must be fun to be a Flyers fan.
If Brian Gregory was hired here, he would still be our coach. PQ and his NIL buddies would love him just like they love Mooney.
As I have said numerous times, the A-10 needs to go to a 20 game IC schedule.
7 Teams 130+ NET. Q1 0-6 Q2 0-7
7 Teams better than 130 Q1 1-7 Q2 6-4
Dayton Q1 2-2 Q2 1-0
Atlantic 10 Conference at Bracketologists
bracketologists.com
Using NET not including future games I think, here is a sample…
Dayton 55
UR 199
GMU 94
Davidson 116
St Joe 239
Bonnie’s 266
VCU 308
Loyola 336
URI 351
