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For whatever reason, GW3 doesn’t project to me as a guy who will portal again. No real insight just a gut feel
He probably realizes that if he were to go to the portal again this year, the most realistic chance he has with playing time is to go to a MAAC or Big Sky level program given his stats. That may or may not be something he is okay with doing.
 
He probably realizes that if he were to go to the portal again this year, the most realistic chance he has with playing time is to go to a MAAC or Big Sky level program given his stats. That may or may not be something he is okay with doing.

Not that it was ever just a player's decision to transfer but completely less so now in the pro athletics model. 1 year deal promised nothing else (tho I guess we'll start seeig multi-year player "contracts").

Point is going portaling is a 2-way deal. Like, hey player X we put you in the portal today, just FYI. Thanks and goodbye.

Also I just mean in general not about GW3. But yeah a player may not project like a portal guy but sorry we may view you as a portal guy instead.
 
Not that it was ever just a player's decision to transfer but completely less so now in the pro athletics model. 1 year deal promised nothing else (tho I guess we'll start seeig multi-year player "contracts").

Point is going portaling is a 2-way deal. Like, hey player X we put you in the portal today, just FYI. Thanks and goodbye.

Also I just mean in general not about GW3. But yeah a player may not project like a portal guy but sorry we may view you as a portal guy instead.
Realistically, how many do you think we try and push out? On one hand, I have no problem if everyone on our roster this year went on the portal, but on the other hand it’s not realistic to get 10 new guys from the portal either. Plus, it would go against Mooney’s preference of having guys stay longer and be developed here.
 
I can't image GW3 was happy with his playing time this season.
but also can't imagine he'd find a better opportunity for time next year somewhere else at a comparable level with Hunt and White graduating.
 
Realistically, how many do you think we try and push out? On one hand, I have no problem if everyone on our roster this year went on the portal, but on the other hand it’s not realistic to get 10 new guys from the portal either. Plus, it would go against Mooney’s preference of having guys stay longer and be developed here.

I was talking overall in D1 ball. It will get more cutthroat. as it should, it's now pro ball. u want the real world well here u go.

at Richmond we've done it less than others in past, I expect we'll do less than others in future. but it will happen occasionally. We've nudged guys out b4 for sure.

I agree with u that other factors come into play...like how many u have returning, if not many then u need guys...and also how many r in portal, how many replacements available. so it will vary year to year. this year maybe 1 but idk we first have to see who enters portal on their own.

also u have to remember there is thought that some teams will go low on ships...why because they can use that ship $ & savings on paying higher NIL per player instead. quality over quantity. but that means u may have to nudge a guy out u would otherwise likely keep. and I don't see our existing walk ons going anywhere. U think Kirby Mooney is getting pushed out? nah that's his choice. I don't see Graham either he's more likely to get own ship than us spend it for better players. so in some years it may be nudge out if u r dealing with a roster limit and carrying walk ons.
 
and he was one of the few guys in VCU round 1 that didn't look like a total deer in the headlights
This is accurate. Was at the VCU game sat down low. GW3 certainly didn't light it up put in the minutes he did play, he played like he belonged. Not all of our players did. Tanner in particular was as you reference a "deer in headlights". The moment was too big for him.

It is a shame he got hurt because he was getting some time (he was still in the Moon doghouse/short leash category) but Moon was at least giving him 5-6 minutes on the court, which was more than the zero he was getting the first half of the season.

Would have liked to know if we have something and the only way to see that is to give the guy real game minutes.
 
I was talking overall in D1 ball. It will get more cutthroat. as it should, it's now pro ball. u want the real world well here u go.

at Richmond we've done it less than others in past, I expect we'll do less than others in future. but it will happen occasionally. We've nudged guys out b4 for sure.

I agree with u that other factors come into play...like how many u have returning, if not many then u need guys...and also how many r in portal, how many replacements available. so it will vary year to year. this year maybe 1 but idk we first have to see who enters portal on their own.

also u have to remember there is thought that some teams will go low on ships...why because they can use that ship $ & savings on paying higher NIL per player instead. quality over quantity. but that means u may have to nudge a guy out u would otherwise likely keep. and I don't see our existing walk ons going anywhere. U think Kirby Mooney is getting pushed out? nah that's his choice. I don't see Graham either he's more likely to get own ship than us spend it for better players. so in some years it may be nudge out if u r dealing with a roster limit and carrying walk ons.
Tanner, Beagle, GW3 are all guys I think maybe in the Mooney push pile for the portal. Moon has no choice, he has to get guys with more talent back in the program. Personally, I would love to see AP on the push pile as well, but no matter how many 3's he misses or how often he runs out of bounds, Mooney gives him his time.

Personally, I would like to see GW3 remain, I think he has potential. Tanner has shown me nothing, I think if his skills fit better in a CAA type league than the A-10, where his athletcism is just not on par with other players and he is not a good enough shooter to make up for it. Beagle I thought was our best portal get but he has been just a tremendous disappointment. He plays soft, thought he could facilitate the offense the best of any of our 3 centers, but in actuality he has been the worst at that.
 
centers are always at a premium in the portal. no way we force a guy like Beagle out. I think more highly of him than you, obviously, but he would not be easy to replace in the portal. I want him playing more, not less ... but as a big forward like in a Cayo role.

one thing to note for next year is that scholarships can grow to 15 but the roster is CAPPED at 15. and hoops scholarships are no longer necessarily full ships. you can give partials. I would have suggested giving walkons like Mooney and Graham partials ... if they didn't count against the 15 man cap.

the 15 man cap makes no sense to me, by the way, in a revenue producing sport like basketball. the NCAA only increased the men's basketball scholarship limit from 13 to 15.
but they increased mens' baseball from 11.7 to 34, men's lacrosse from 12.6 to 48, and women's rowing from 20 to 68.
someone make sense of that.

not sure if each school has to decide how many to give for wach sport, or if the conference decides.
 
It's simply because the concept of an NCAA scholarship limit no longer exists...if you're on the roster the school can give you money, so they've gone with roster caps.

15 is a reasonable squad size for a basketball team, and the scholarship limit was already close to that, so it results in a small bump to available scholarships. You can't run a baseball team with 11.7 guys, so the available scholarships there get a huge increase to match the roster size. Revenue generation doesn't have anything to do with it...it's simply about how many are needed to field a team.

I don't know if conferences can limit scholarships (perhaps not), but they can limit rosters further than the NCAA caps. For example, M&W swim will each have an NCAA roster cap of 30, but the SEC is apparently going to limit men's rosters to 22 (though scholarships would rise from 9.9 to the full 22). When some teams like Florida currently have as many as 40 guys, it's going to be an insane game of musical chairs in the portal.
 
centers are always at a premium in the portal. no way we force a guy like Beagle out. I think more highly of him than you, obviously, but he would not be easy to replace in the portal. I want him playing more, not less ... but as a big forward like in a Cayo role.

one thing to note for next year is that scholarships can grow to 15 but the roster is CAPPED at 15. and hoops scholarships are no longer necessarily full ships. you can give partials. I would have suggested giving walkons like Mooney and Graham partials ... if they didn't count against the 15 man cap.

the 15 man cap makes no sense to me, by the way, in a revenue producing sport like basketball. the NCAA only increased the men's basketball scholarship limit from 13 to 15.
but they increased mens' baseball from 11.7 to 34, men's lacrosse from 12.6 to 48, and women's rowing from 20 to 68.
someone make sense of that.

not sure if each school has to decide how many to give for wach sport, or if the conference decides.

looks like I need to get my kids into rowing if the scholarships are that plentiful 😂
 
It's simply because the concept of an NCAA scholarship limit no longer exists...if you're on the roster the school can give you money, so they've gone with roster caps.

15 is a reasonable squad size for a basketball team, and the scholarship limit was already close to that, so it results in a small bump to available scholarships. You can't run a baseball team with 11.7 guys, so the available scholarships there get a huge increase to match the roster size. Revenue generation doesn't have anything to do with it...it's simply about how many are needed to field a team.

I don't know if conferences can limit scholarships (perhaps not), but they can limit rosters further than the NCAA caps. For example, M&W swim will each have an NCAA roster cap of 30, but the SEC is apparently going to limit men's rosters to 22 (though scholarships would rise from 9.9 to the full 22). When some teams like Florida currently have as many as 40 guys, it's going to be an insane game of musical chairs in the portal.
thanks, SF.
so clearly UR isn't going to "fully fund" all of these sports. does the school pick their own scholarship limits for each?
 
Yes, the school can fund them to whatever numbers and full vs partial split that they want within NCAA and potentially conference roster limits.
 
centers are always at a premium in the portal. no way we force a guy like Beagle out. I think more highly of him than you, obviously, but he would not be easy to replace in the portal. I want him playing more, not less ... but as a big forward like in a Cayo role.

one thing to note for next year is that scholarships can grow to 15 but the roster is CAPPED at 15. and hoops scholarships are no longer necessarily full ships. you can give partials. I would have suggested giving walkons like Mooney and Graham partials ... if they didn't count against the 15 man cap.

the 15 man cap makes no sense to me, by the way, in a revenue producing sport like basketball. the NCAA only increased the men's basketball scholarship limit from 13 to 15.
but they increased mens' baseball from 11.7 to 34, men's lacrosse from 12.6 to 48, and women's rowing from 20 to 68.
someone make sense of that.

not sure if each school has to decide how many to give for wach sport, or if the conference decides.
Beagle is a junior this year. So my assumption is he only has 1 more year and we would have both Walz and Soulis back next year. Walz would start, Soulis would be our starter incumbent, so I don't want another center who is also a senior taking Soulis's minutes.

If Beagle has 2 years left, than that changes things as we could have Soulis/Beagle as our center combo for the second year.
 
we don't have enough returning talent to give any away.
play Beagle or Soulis some at the 4. it's not like AP or McGlothin have locked up 30 mpg at the 4.
 
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I’d want soulis back for sure, there’s something there. I’m iffy on beagle but concur that big guys are at a premium and he’s passable even if he had small hands.

I rate AP higher than most because I think he defends pretty well compared to to most our roster, rebounds, and can handle ok. I’d like to see him actually get to the rim, he’s freaking 6’8”. Way too tentative.

I like GW3 but mostly because I think he’d make at a good clip from 3 if he had a chance. If Tyne plays consistently like he has recently, he’s on the roster but not guaranteed a starter spot.

Keep the two current freshmen, everyone else is a legit candidate to move on. That presumes we can find better options.
 
Anna's brother 8 for 10 from 3 today to lead Delaware to 3rd win in conf tourney and into semis of CAA. Guy shot 40% from 3 on the season.
Also love Izaiah Pasha on the Blue Hens. Too bad we didn't get involved with him. Saw Pasha play as a true freshman this year. Originally committed to St. John's. Pitino sent him to prep school for a year, and then wouln't return his calls (according to Pasha). Was then recruited by SDSU and Blue Hens. Kid had 12 points, 8 assists and 7 Rebounds today. He is a legit 6'4 guard, super athlete, just makes plays all over the court. We need coaches that can beat the bushes more and find these guys. Moon probably didn't think he had pretty enough shot, but he impacts winning and SDSU saw the same I'm sure.
 
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Anna's brother 8 for 10 from 3 today to lead Delaware to 3rd win in conf tourney and into semis of CAA. Guy shot 40% from 3 on the season.
Also love Izaiah Pasha on the Blue Hens. Too bad we didn't get involved with him. Saw Pasha play as a true freshman this year. Originally committed to St. John's. Pitino sent him to prep school for a year, and then wouln't return his calls (according to Pasha). Was then recruited by SDSU and Blue Hens. Kid had 12 points, 8 assists and 7 Rebounds today. He is a legit 6'4 guard, super athlete, just makes plays all over the court. We need coaches that can beat the bushes more and find these guys. Moon probably didn't think he had pretty enough shot, but he impacts winning and SDSU saw the same I'm sure.
8 of 10? Was that vs the same team that let AP go 5 for 5?
 
I’d want soulis back for sure, there’s something there. I’m iffy on beagle but concur that big guys are at a premium and he’s passable even if he had small hands.

I rate AP higher than most because I think he defends pretty well compared to to most our roster, rebounds, and can handle ok. I’d like to see him actually get to the rim, he’s freaking 6’8”. Way too tentative.

I like GW3 but mostly because I think he’d make at a good clip from 3 if he had a chance. If Tyne plays consistently like he has recently, he’s on the roster but not guaranteed a starter spot.

Keep the two current freshmen, everyone else is a legit candidate to move on. That presumes we can find better options.
Beagle and AP have been my biggest disappointments. Beagle is such a poor skills player from the standpoint of a big man like boxing out, mishandling the ball and not going up strong. AP is a good rebounder, but poor shooter that many times seems lost on the floor. I would like AP back due to fact with his athleticism he has some upside to him. A lot of shooting practice over the Summer could improve his percentage much like Matt Grace did.
 
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Anna's brother 8 for 10 from 3 today to lead Delaware to 3rd win in conf tourney and into semis of CAA. Guy shot 40% from 3 on the season.
Also love Izaiah Pasha on the Blue Hens. Too bad we didn't get involved with him. Saw Pasha play as a true freshman this year. Originally committed to St. John's. Pitino sent him to prep school for a year, and then wouln't return his calls (according to Pasha). Was then recruited by SDSU and Blue Hens. Kid had 12 points, 8 assists and 7 Rebounds today. He is a legit 6'4 guard, super athlete, just makes plays all over the court. We need coaches that can beat the bushes more and find these guys. Moon probably didn't think he had pretty enough shot, but he impacts winning and SDSU saw the same I'm sure.
We reached out to Camden this past summer but obviously didn't amount to anything. Could have just been one phone call/text for all I know, but we at least showed some interest.

Clearly, a huge theme from last summer is that we didn't recruit the right guys from the portal/missed on some others that could have been better fits. Can't have that happen again this offseason.

 
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Clearly, a huge theme from last summer is that we didn't recruit the right guys from the portal/missed on some others that could have been better fits. Can't have that happen again this offseason.
Yep, we went in on AP and Dusan and Beagle. Dusan had a lot bigger numbers in a low league. AP a real wildcard considering he never played at UCONN. Camden never played much at Va Tech. Kind of a crap shoot. When I saw Camden play early in the season he was very efficient and confident. Not super athletic or physical, but very quick to make decisions. Really good shooter. Hoping he can have a couple more big games.
 
Yep, we went in on AP and Dusan and Beagle. Dusan had a lot bigger numbers in a low league. AP a real wildcard considering he never played at UCONN. Camden never played much at Va Tech. Kind of a crap shoot. When I saw Camden play early in the season he was very efficient and confident. Not super athletic or physical, but very quick to make decisions. Really good shooter. Hoping he can have a couple more big games.
It would have been nice if we had gotten AP & Camden as the starting forwards this season and they both shot the same 3 point % that did in 2023-2024. 5 of 9 and 7 of 15 respectively.
 
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Looks like Camden wasted 3 years before finding the right level.
1 years at Memphis ... played 2 minutes.
2 years at Va Tech barely playing.
then a year with 34 starts at 17 ppg at Delaware.

gotta find a level where you can play. tough to pass up the water cooler school though.
 
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