2025-2026 Non Conference Schedule

[97spiderfan]

??? Other than an MTE game against BC, Clemson was the only major Boise St played. And Boise played an NAIA team.

Other than MTE, the only majors St Mary's played were Nebraska and Utah, and they played a D2 team.

SDSU only played Cal as a major outside of their MTE while also playing a D3 team.

So, outside of MTEs, these 3 teams played combined 4 majors and 3 non D1 teams OOC. Seems like this hurts, not helps, your argument.

?????. I'm not sure what you are looking at but:

SDSU played Oregon, Gonzaga, Houston, Creighton and Cal OOC last year

St. Mary's played Nebraska, Utah, Utah State, Boise State, USC, and Arizona State last year

Boise played St. Mary's, San Francisco, Clemson, Boston College, Washington State,

We played Auburn and then a bunch of crap. These teams made it happen, we didn't.

 

[spiderman]

NCAA site: https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/43833

NC SOS and some other info isn't in the final rankings, but you can use the drop down to go back to the Selection Sunday rankings. (or any other date). You can filter by conference if you just want to see A-10 and then sort by NET NC SOS or whatever metric you want.

any idea why it's so different from kenpom?

 

[GKiller]

any idea why it's so different from kenpom?

SOS has always been all over the place. for years. idk why. u could also look at torvik. rpi. a few others. I'd go with NET even tho it kinda sucks.

 

[spider23]

?????. I'm not sure what you are looking at but:

SDSU played Oregon, Gonzaga, Houston, Creighton and Cal OOC last year

St. Mary's played Nebraska, Utah, Utah State, Boise State, USC, and Arizona State last year

Boise played St. Mary's, San Francisco, Clemson, Boston College, Washington State,

We played Auburn and then a bunch of crap. These times made it happen, we didn't.

Yes, all played mulitple good OOC games. UNBELIEVABLE the lengths mooneyites go to. Well, if it is not an MTE on a tuesday in the south region, then how are we supposed to get a game. Just wow.

But 97 - the games you listed are the one's im thinking of - and I just knew those teams off top of my head. Sure there are another 5-10 mid majors that had good OOC opponents. We can't get those games or MTE's or whatever b/c moon has no gravitas, or pull, or teams have no reason to play him.

 

[GKiller]

?????. I'm not sure what you are looking at but:

SDSU played Oregon, Gonzaga, Houston, Creighton and Cal OOC last year

St. Mary's played Nebraska, Utah, Utah State, Boise State, USC, and Arizona State last year

Boise played St. Mary's, San Francisco, Clemson, Boston College, Washington State,

We played Auburn and then a bunch of crap. These times made it happen, we didn't.

Lmao

MTEs r a big part of scheduling. why is VT4700 dismissing that. why would anyone.

Those teams had very good schedules and it hurt spider23's argument? what. this mush isn't following that at all.

Plus...plus...those teams had some good buy games at home. UC San Diego, Towson, Akron, Chattanooga. And they get higher profile games within their own confereces.

 

[VT4700]

?????. I'm not sure what you are looking at but:

SDSU played Oregon, Gonzaga, Houston, Creighton and Cal OOC last year

St. Mary's played Nebraska, Utah, Utah State, Boise State, USC, and Arizona State last year

Boise played St. Mary's, San Francisco, Clemson, Boston College, Washington State,

We played Auburn and then a bunch of crap. These teams made it happen, we didn't.

We need to get into a good MTE. No question about that.

 

[VT4700]

Yes, all played mulitple good OOC games. UNBELIEVABLE the lengths mooneyites go to. Well, if it is not an MTE on a tuesday in the south region, then how are we supposed to get a game. Just wow.

But 97 - the games you listed are the one's im thinking of - and I just knew those teams off top of my head. Sure there are another 5-10 mid majors that had good OOC opponents. We can't get those games or MTE's or whatever b/c moon has no gravitas, or pull, or teams have no reason to play him.

Don't appreciate the mooneyite comment. Really wish u would stop with that. I hated our schedule last year. Hated it. But, we usually have a good one. You mentioned Boise's coach as an example of a coach picking up the phone and scheduling great. Boise had a home game against Clemson ( solid for a mid major), and had one other game against a major against BC, which was part of their MTE that included games against Hampton and South Dakota St. Had we played their schedule, you would have destroyed Mooney.

The other schedules were good mainly because of MTEs, which is the case for most mid majors now. Get into a good MTE and a very average schedule looks way better. We need to get in better MTEs. No question about that. It is also much harder to schedule like we used to, even as recent as a few years ago. No question about that either. And our schedule last year was beyond awful, and we should do much better than that regardless of how much harder it is now. No question about that either.

 

[8legs1dream]

We need to get into a good MTE. No question about that.

and when we don't should anyone be held accountable?

 

[spider23]

and when we don't should anyone be held accountable?

Never. That is the answer. All the credit for the few and far between good years, and deflect blame on all the bad years. And all the posters beating their chests leading up to the first scrimmage, slinked back off the board once the season got gnarly.

 

[SFspidur]

Davidson MTE:

 

[VT4700]

Never. That is the answer. All the credit for the few and far between good years, and deflect blame on all the bad years. And all the posters beating their chests leading up to the first scrimmage, slinked back off the board once the season got gnarly.

Who deflected blame? I don't remember anyone doing that last season. Who were all the posters beating their chests after a scrimmage? I don't remember that either. What's going on, man? U seem way angry. Hope all is okay.

 

[8legs1dream]

Who deflected blame? I don't remember anyone doing that last season. Who were all the posters beating their chests after a scrimmage? I don't remember that either. What's going on, man? U seem way angry. Hope all is okay.

Deflecting blame is like breathing for you dude, are we seriously having this conversation right now?

 

[spiderman]

Davidson MTE:

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by headline, I assume there will be 4 weaker teams added. not exactly the Maui Classic, but that's a field we could live with.
just do better than the Gulf Coast Classic.

 

[SFspidur]

by headline, I assume there will be 4 weaker teams added. not exactly the Maui Classic, but that's a field we could live with.
just do better than the Gulf Coast Classic.

I think it's a misleading usage of the word...I think it's just those four teams.

The Charleston Classic was supposed to reduce from an 8-team event to a 4-team event next season, but it looks like they're doing two separate 4-team events.

 

[spiderman]

heard from a guy who's in the know (not at Richmond), that scheduling at schools like ours may get worse.
said the P5's are all using a new scheduling software designed to maximize their tournament chances.
no idea how the math works, but can't imagine we'll be looked at favorably.

 

[spider23]

heard from a guy who's in the know (not at Richmond), that scheduling at schools like ours may get worse.
said the P5's are all using a new scheduling software designed to maximize their tournament chances.
no idea how the math works, but can't imagine we'll be looked at favorably.

I get this completely. Again, this is where you need to have a coach with connections, gravitas, energy, magnetism, whatever to get things done.

 

[97spiderfan]

I get this completely. Again, this is where you need to have a coach with connections, gravitas, energy, magnetism, whatever to get things done.

This will be our excuse after we release a sh*t schedule this year. Meanwhile, other programs similar in stature to ours will still be playing good OOC schedules. So, effing weak.

 

[spiderman]

I get this completely. Again, this is where you need to have a coach with connections, gravitas, energy, magnetism, whatever to get things done.

I don't understand what the software would say is a good team to play. Other P5's of course, or at least good P5's. Would it want you to schedule a bad P5? Probably not. I assume no P5's will play anyone with a 200+ NET. But do you even want to play a solid mid major and risk a loss? Maybe just mid majors who you believe will win their conferences?

And won't the software tell every P5 to schedule the same teams? So like 50 high major schools are going to call Drake, McNeese and UC Irvine for a game next year?

 

[spider23]

One thing I have noticed, is that robots and AI still don't seem to be very good with humor or have much personality. So guess we won't be losing much when our bots reach out to the other bots.

 

[8legs1dream]

I don't understand what the software would say is a good team to play. Other P5's of course, or at least good P5's. Would it want you to schedule a bad P5? Probably not. I assume no P5's will play anyone with a 200+ NET. But do you even want to play a solid mid major and risk a loss? Maybe just mid majors who you believe will win their conferences?

And won't the software tell every P5 to schedule the same teams? So like 50 high major schools are going to call Drake, McNeese and UC Irvine for a game next year?

It's a good thing to be in demand, the NCAA will allow these P5 metric pumping mid-majors to play a 60 game season for the benefit of the power conferences.

 

[GKiller]

heard from a guy who's in the know (not at Richmond), that scheduling at schools like ours may get worse.
said the P5's are all using a new scheduling software designed to maximize their tournament chances.
no idea how the math works, but can't imagine we'll be looked at favorably.

who cares we have Joe Lunardi and his Excel files!

 

[97spiderfan]

I can imagine most P5 aren't looking to play a school with a NET of 258. But that is an us problem. Mooney put us in this position, so he best be working his a** of working the phones and his connections to put together a better schedule this year. Calling up ODU to schedule a home in home isn't getting it done.

 

[VT4700]

I don't understand what the software would say is a good team to play. Other P5's of course, or at least good P5's. Would it want you to schedule a bad P5? Probably not. I assume no P5's will play anyone with a 200+ NET. But do you even want to play a solid mid major and risk a loss? Maybe just mid majors who you believe will win their conferences?

And won't the software tell every P5 to schedule the same teams? So like 50 high major schools are going to call Drake, McNeese and UC Irvine for a game next year?

Software will show 99+% win chances. Play 7 of those at home. Then, play 6 majors. Just win 2 of the 6, and you are sitting pretty at 9-4 with a couple good wins. Sucks, but this is what most majors will do.

 

[GKiller]

I don't understand what the software would say is a good team to play. Other P5's of course, or at least good P5's. Would it want you to schedule a bad P5? Probably not. I assume no P5's will play anyone with a 200+ NET. But do you even want to play a solid mid major and risk a loss? Maybe just mid majors who you believe will win their conferences?

And won't the software tell every P5 to schedule the same teams? So like 50 high major schools are going to call Drake, McNeese and UC Irvine for a game next year?

why would the software say to play those teams...last year u were telling me they only played other P5s and the bottom 150 NET teams. which isn't true but that was the convo here iirc

I need Joey Bag o Donuts to scribble this on a whiteboard. Like old school Tropicana sportsbook.

 

[spiderman]

why would the software say to play those teams...last year u were telling me they only played other P5s and the bottom 150 NET teams. which isn't true but that was the convo here iirc

I need Joey Bag o Donuts to scribble this on a whiteboard. Like old school Tropicana sportsbook.

I'm just guessing. No idea what the software says.
But a mid major with a net a heck of a lot better than us was told by a high major that their annual game was off because the software said the game doesn't maximize their tournament chance. I'll have to wait for the high major's schedule to see what kind of games the program recommends.

 

[SpiderGuy]

Software and algorithms can be developed to do anything the user determines is needed. Can be simple or complicated. Can make a few assumptions or a myriad of assumptions. I wouldn’t assume anything without looking at the supposed requirements and code. But it does seem we are on the outside looking in. Not a new area for us.

 

[GKiller]

I'm just guessing. No idea what the software says.
But a mid major with a net a heck of a lot better than us was told by a high major that their annual game was off because the software said the game doesn't maximize their tournament chance. I'll have to wait for the high major's schedule to see what kind of games the program recommends.

what teams

 

[spiderman]

call all the high majors and try, but then reach out to Liberty, High Point, JMU, UNCW, Charleston, Furman, Wofford, Winthrop, Princeton, Yale ...

 

[GKiller]

call all the high majors and try, but then reach out to Liberty, High Point, JMU, UNCW, Charleston, Furman, Wofford, Winthrop, Princeton, Yale ...

I meant who was the high major that canceled annual game with mid major

 

[spiderman]

sorry ... sworn to secrecy.
cancelled probably the wrong word. not renewed. like our old Wake game.

 

[SpiderRick]

Go call some schools in the American, Mountain West and get some home and homes, heck just go to their place and play them. VCU did this last year, they are in our league, last time I checked. Is it harder in this day and age? Sure, but are we running a "national" program as Mooney says we are or some mid major budget operation that takes whatever table scraps are offered. Seems like the latter to me. Mandate has to come from the top that this is our intention but we won't ever hear that. We will hear the excuses after though.

Too long a bus ride. Our poor little school can't afford it

 

[SpiderRick]

JOC to Mooney" " Why did you wait so long to schedule a MTE?"

Mooney: " I meant to, but forgot about it until it was too late so all I could get was a D2 MTE"

All is not lost. Maybe we'll get lucky and some P5 schools are looking for a midmajor cupcake and will call..