2024 Presidential Election
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I'm a Chick-fil-A person myself, but I've got nothing against McDonalds just because they let Trump have a photo op there. I'll gladly take my grandchildren there if that's where they want to go.Understand many detest everything Trump, wondering if you will still take the kids or grandkids to McDonalds?
Detest everything Trump? I guess you are okay with his Arnold Palmer comments and his repeated statements that he will go after his political opponents.
Speaking of Trump at McDonald's ...
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This is the funniest of all comments after a NY Times article about polling averages. How many of you are physically ill, because of the fear you have that Trump will win? Migraines over an election, anyone? If you are in that deep, stop drinking the kool-aid and drink some bourbon.
It seems that even people who hate Trump just can't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat so it's hard to see how this ends well. The sinking reality of this is making me physically ill as I get migraines when I am stressed. It's impossible not to care about someting so important.
It seems that even people who hate Trump just can't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat so it's hard to see how this ends well. The sinking reality of this is making me physically ill as I get migraines when I am stressed. It's impossible not to care about someting so important.
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These comments are a riot. This is what happens when one only reads the NYTimes.
Good sign we voters are stressing out. And I think most of us who are really worried, anxious, and stressing are Democrats
Following this election is becoming detrimental to my mental health
The Harris campaign is putting out concerns of the possibility that the three Midwest battleground states might not vote as a bloc for her. Even if she wins Pennsylvania, they risk losing Wisconsin and or Michigan to Trump
I was calm-ish until I started reading this article. I had to stop midway (more tiresome & unhelpful polling "theory"), so I jumped to the comments, looking for the usual insightful NYT reader thoughts). They stressed me out!
How can people get themselves so wound up about a federal election when 99% of the decisions which impact your daily life are made at the state or local level?
Can I get wound up about it? American presidential actions have consequences that reach far beyond the 50 states and I think I have a right to be worried about the thought.
Our sense is it's the democrats afflicted with the schizophrenia of fearing the election and craving news about it. Our Republican friends exhibit a healthy insouciance about it all.
Good sign we voters are stressing out. And I think most of us who are really worried, anxious, and stressing are Democrats
Following this election is becoming detrimental to my mental health
The Harris campaign is putting out concerns of the possibility that the three Midwest battleground states might not vote as a bloc for her. Even if she wins Pennsylvania, they risk losing Wisconsin and or Michigan to Trump
I was calm-ish until I started reading this article. I had to stop midway (more tiresome & unhelpful polling "theory"), so I jumped to the comments, looking for the usual insightful NYT reader thoughts). They stressed me out!
How can people get themselves so wound up about a federal election when 99% of the decisions which impact your daily life are made at the state or local level?
Can I get wound up about it? American presidential actions have consequences that reach far beyond the 50 states and I think I have a right to be worried about the thought.
Our sense is it's the democrats afflicted with the schizophrenia of fearing the election and craving news about it. Our Republican friends exhibit a healthy insouciance about it all.
Nate Silver says that his gut tells him Trump will win. In 2022, pollsters over corrected for the same "non-response bias" mentioned below. The result was that pollsters predicted a landslide for Republicans in the House. It did not happen. The pollsters over compensated. I still think Trump will lose this election. November 5 will be his last day in politics.
"While pollster Nate Silver revealed last month that he'd vote for Vice President Kamala Harris on Nov. 5, his "gut" is telling him that former President Trump will win.
Silver set the scene in his new opinion piece by noting that several battleground states have Trump and Harris neck-and-neck. But those numbers don't seem to satisfy observers, who he said often ask him for a straight answer.
He says his intuition is partly driven by the notion of nonresponse bias, musing that pollsters aren’t reaching enough of Trump's supporters. ....
"Pollsters are attempting to correct for this problem with increasingly aggressive data-massaging techniques, like weighing by educational attainment (college-educated voters are more likely to respond to surveys) or even by how people say they voted in the past. There’s no guarantee any of this will work."
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"While pollster Nate Silver revealed last month that he'd vote for Vice President Kamala Harris on Nov. 5, his "gut" is telling him that former President Trump will win.
Silver set the scene in his new opinion piece by noting that several battleground states have Trump and Harris neck-and-neck. But those numbers don't seem to satisfy observers, who he said often ask him for a straight answer.
He says his intuition is partly driven by the notion of nonresponse bias, musing that pollsters aren’t reaching enough of Trump's supporters. ....
"Pollsters are attempting to correct for this problem with increasingly aggressive data-massaging techniques, like weighing by educational attainment (college-educated voters are more likely to respond to surveys) or even by how people say they voted in the past. There’s no guarantee any of this will work."
Pollster Nate Silver says 'gut' tells him Trump will win election
Polling guru Nate Silver explained in a New York Times essay why he has a "gut" feeling former President Trump will win the 2024 presidential election.
Speaking of going after political opponents, what was lawfare? None of these cases will ultimately end in conviction. And no, I did not vote for Trump...nor the vacuous Harris. Denying defeat coupled with Jan 6 was a bridge too far for me....so is lawfare, states trying to bar a party nominee access to ballot, etc, etc, etc. Pox on both.
I refuse to believe that a majority of American voters hate America enough to put human scum like Trump back in the White House. If you don't like Harris, fine, just sit this election out or vote for Mickey Mouse. If Trump is elected again, it's truly the end of rational thought and the importance of fact in our society, and we officially will have signaled as a nation that when you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
There is a lot of hatred for Trump. He also connects with a lot of people who really like him. He doesn't have to worry about winning California or NY. He is only concerned with the 7 or 8 states that will sway the electoral college votes.
I do not believe those people who say the election is swinging towards Trump. These same people predicted a landslide Republican win in 2022, which did not happen.
I stand by my prediction that Nov 5 is the last we will see of Donald Trump.
Trump’s tipping point: The former president may be on the cusp of returning to office - Washington Examiner
Former President Donald Trump is well positioned to reclaim the office he lost four years ago.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
This is what I am talking about. It seems like people are already anointing Trump as the winner.
There is growing fear in Democratic circles that the presidential race could be slipping further away from Vice President Harris....
Democrats are privately expressing worry that battleground polling appears to be moving in Trump’s direction over the last two weeks....
Another strategist was even more dour when asked about the current state of play: “If this is a vibe election, the current vibes ain’t great."
There is growing fear in Democratic circles that the presidential race could be slipping further away from Vice President Harris....
Democrats are privately expressing worry that battleground polling appears to be moving in Trump’s direction over the last two weeks....
Another strategist was even more dour when asked about the current state of play: “If this is a vibe election, the current vibes ain’t great."
Maybe if Harris starting raping a bunch of people, speaking incoherently at rallies, making things up constantly and trashing literally anyone who said a negative word about her, she'd spike in the polls.
My point is these pollsters are wrong. They are over counting Republican participation, as they did in 2022. You heard it here first, November 5 will be the last day of Trump in elected politics.
I pray you are right, the one thing that may sway it is the "closet Harris Republicans". Will not say publicly, or even to pollster, but will vote Harris.
Please stop with the bogus lawfare argument. There is no evidence that Biden has directed the DOJ to go after anyone. But there is evidence that he has not gotten involved with the prosecution of his own son. David Weiss, the Republican US attorney hand picked by Trump and Barr to go after Hunter Biden and the alleged "Biden crime family", testified under oath that he has had no interference from Biden or Garland. And Biden did not replace him once elected. Under oath when Trump was President, Bill Barr conveniently could "not remember" if Trump had directed him to open a prosecution against anyone when questioned by then Senator Kamala Harris. Barr looked like a fool trying to answer the question.
The DOJ has prosecuted Democrats as well as Republicans during Biden's term. Trump is lucky he has not been charged with treason after he tried to overthrow the 2020 election. And if he had half a brain, he would not have been charged with taking and holding the top secret documents. All he had to do was to return them when asked and then not lie about returning all of them, but he was too stupid to do so. Had he cooperated like Pence and Biden, he would not have been prosecuted.
I agree the states should not have tried to bar Trump without a conviction, but there is no comparison between Trump and Biden when it comes to using or interfering with the DOJ, at least with the evidence or lack of evidence that is currently available.
My wife thinks the same as you, that Harris will easily win. But I keep thinking about the 2016 election when the polls had Clinton easily winning and Trump legitimately won. Since it boils down to the "swing states", nothing would surprise me. And if Trump loses, he and his team are geared up to claim election fraud and will no doubt do everything possible to change the outcome. And per Trump, if he becomes President it will be the last election anyone will ever vote in.
But will it be the last day in non-elected politics?
Or will elected or not elected be irrelevant?
With all due respect, the lawfare campaign waged against Trump in hostile forums in front of biased judges is real. The coordination between the Biden Administration and the leaders of the lawsuits is real. One must admit the lawfare effort was designed to undermine Trump and keep him out of office. All it did was strengthen him. It hasn't moved the needle. If anything, black men identify more with Trump.
There you go with Fox again, every lawsuit against Trump had to pass, and did pass a minimum standard of probable cause or similar. Compare that to over 60 of his claims of election fraud. that could not even pass a smell test
Any action against Trump since way before he was elected was always extreme bias against him (you don't even need to ask him as he spouts it continously). That he claims it now and is believed is unsurprising. However, let us assume absolute truth of that Trumpian premise and the current legal actions are not legitimate efforts to bring to heel a deep-pocketed litigious miscreant. The counter to that comes via the Supremes granting "official" acts immunity and Judge Cannon throwing out the documents case. For everyone who thinks "lawfare" is unfairly targeting Trump, there are those who believe Trump has his fair share of bias tilted toward him.
The most astonishing part about the ruse Trump has pulled off on half the American public is this 'Woe is Me' act, as if the media, Democrats, the legal system and most of his former personal appointees are somehow out to get him specifically, for absolutely no reason. Like they just have a personal grudge or something.
No, moron. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No one is out to get you because you are Donald Trump -- they're against you because you're a brain dead narcissistic idiot who led an insurrection and who lies about everything. And you're getting called out for it all.
No, moron. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No one is out to get you because you are Donald Trump -- they're against you because you're a brain dead narcissistic idiot who led an insurrection and who lies about everything. And you're getting called out for it all.
Exactly my approach. Not casting a vote for Prez in Virginia in no way impacts the election outcome. Just vote down ballot.
Trump will be defeated soundly in the Old Dominion and Hung Cao will be castrated by Kaine.
This is disgusting. A Harris supporter accosted a young toddler in a stroller, screaming in the little girl's face. The rhetoric of the left and the emotions they engender has brought people to this. Both of these people were Harris supporters at a Harris rally.
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🙄 Yep, actions of a random person are definitely reflective of a presidential candidate and should be permanently ascribed to said candidate.
Meanwhile, Trump have a guy the microphone at his rally in NYC yesterday who called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage, but I'm sure no one has any issues with that...
Meanwhile, Trump have a guy the microphone at his rally in NYC yesterday who called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage, but I'm sure no one has any issues with that...
And that was one of the nicer things he said. But he was cheered loudly.
I don't know about this, but I could not get past Hulk Hogan. That guy was funny.
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Are these people this neurotic or are they affected by the rhetoric? Most of them admit they are turning to alcohol and drugs to ease their anxieties. Here are a few examples.
With little more than a week to go in what could be the closest presidential election in American history, the nation is on edge.
“I’m honestly legit kind of terrified,” said Rebekah Williams, a 46-year-old Atlanta resident wearing a T-shirt that read “pro science, pro choice, pro wrestling.” The thought of trying to get through the next couple of weeks until the election had her on edge, not to mention what might happen afterward. To get through it, she was counting on “a lot of marijuana.”
“I can remember elections where it felt like things would be OK regardless of the outcome,” Phillip Appiah, a 50-year-old contractor from Stone Mountain, said as he waited in line for a food truck on the stadium turf. “That feeling is absent this time.”
“I don’t have emotions anymore. I can’t let politics make me emotional,” said Lauren Groh-Wargo, a Georgia Democratic strategist who runs the Fair Fight Action voter-mobilization group founded by former gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. “These races are so close, you just have to do what you can and focus on what you can control.”
A Democratic lobbyist in Washington put it more succinctly: “There are not enough gummies I can take to soothe the angst!” (Especially since the gummies he was taking were laced with marijuana.)
Maria Selva, a 52-year-old Realtor who voted for Harris, said she worried the U.S. was taking democracy for granted the way she had seen people do in Venezuela, where she spent part of her childhood. “Most people think, it’s OK, after this election you have a chance again in four years. I truly doubt if Trump wins that will happen,” she said. “It’s not just the presidency in question—the future of the country really is.” Her husband, Luis Blanco, said his plan to get through the “nerve-racking” next two weeks was “a lot of Scotch.”
For many anxious voters, what comes next is simultaneously too awful to fully consider and can’t come soon enough. At Harris’s rally in Clarkston, the sun began to set as the crowd awaited former President Barack Obama, who would warn them, “Just because [Trump] acts goofy does not mean his presidency wouldn’t be dangerous.”
Nathan Mullin, a 50-year-old salesman from Stonecrest, said “Usually elections are about, you know, who has the best tax policy, or who’s going to help the poor,” he said. “Now it’s about something completely different.”
With little more than a week to go in what could be the closest presidential election in American history, the nation is on edge.
“I’m honestly legit kind of terrified,” said Rebekah Williams, a 46-year-old Atlanta resident wearing a T-shirt that read “pro science, pro choice, pro wrestling.” The thought of trying to get through the next couple of weeks until the election had her on edge, not to mention what might happen afterward. To get through it, she was counting on “a lot of marijuana.”
“I can remember elections where it felt like things would be OK regardless of the outcome,” Phillip Appiah, a 50-year-old contractor from Stone Mountain, said as he waited in line for a food truck on the stadium turf. “That feeling is absent this time.”
“I don’t have emotions anymore. I can’t let politics make me emotional,” said Lauren Groh-Wargo, a Georgia Democratic strategist who runs the Fair Fight Action voter-mobilization group founded by former gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. “These races are so close, you just have to do what you can and focus on what you can control.”
A Democratic lobbyist in Washington put it more succinctly: “There are not enough gummies I can take to soothe the angst!” (Especially since the gummies he was taking were laced with marijuana.)
Maria Selva, a 52-year-old Realtor who voted for Harris, said she worried the U.S. was taking democracy for granted the way she had seen people do in Venezuela, where she spent part of her childhood. “Most people think, it’s OK, after this election you have a chance again in four years. I truly doubt if Trump wins that will happen,” she said. “It’s not just the presidency in question—the future of the country really is.” Her husband, Luis Blanco, said his plan to get through the “nerve-racking” next two weeks was “a lot of Scotch.”
For many anxious voters, what comes next is simultaneously too awful to fully consider and can’t come soon enough. At Harris’s rally in Clarkston, the sun began to set as the crowd awaited former President Barack Obama, who would warn them, “Just because [Trump] acts goofy does not mean his presidency wouldn’t be dangerous.”
Nathan Mullin, a 50-year-old salesman from Stonecrest, said “Usually elections are about, you know, who has the best tax policy, or who’s going to help the poor,” he said. “Now it’s about something completely different.”
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They are justifiably nervous about what another Trump term would do to the country. For good reason. Read Project 2025.
BTW, Fatso stiffed the owner of the McDonald's where he said he'd pay for all the food he gave away.
BTW, Fatso stiffed the owner of the McDonald's where he said he'd pay for all the food he gave away.
You really do not like him. I just don't think he can win. If he loses the suburban women around Atlanta, he will lose the election. Alternatively, if these women are more angry about Laken Riley's murder at the hands of an illegal, Harris will lose and Trump will win. Which is more important to these women, the right to an abortion or the safety of their children and their families?
Athens, GA is almost a suburb of Atlanta.
I still think Biden won the debate.
Where was all this concern about innocent people being killed when that dude murdered 50 people in the Orlando nightclub? Or 70+ people in Las Vegas? Or in Parland, Fla., when some GOP members accused surviving students of being "crisis actors?"
Or in Aurora, Colo.; Buffalo; Denver; Charleston, or at many other locations across the country where people have been murdered en mass by automatic weapons? Then it was just "thoughts and prayers, this is no time to politicize this."
It's not just "abortion" rights. It's about the right of more than half the country to make their own medical decisions about their own medical conditions. Read 2025. If you think the Christofascists are going to stop with abortion, you're crazy. Any form of contraception will be next.
Violent crime nationwide is much lower now than during the Trump administration. You know, four years ago, when we were supposedly "better off" even though hundreds of Americans were dying weekly of a pandemic Fatso downplayed at every opportunity.
And yes, you are right, I really do not like a bigoted, misogynistic, criminal POS who did his best to overthrow the government. Luckily for everyone, tens of millions in this country feel the same way.
You have a lot of nerve talking about the rhetoric of the left. Just last night, at Trump's MSG rally, one of his invited speakers called Harris the antichrist and the devil. Another said if Harris wins "her and her pimp handlers will destroy the country". Just another Trump rally, I guess it should come as no surprise as other invited speakers insulted Jews, blacks and Puerto Rico. I guess you don't think that's disgusting though.
But do these neurotic people constantly post about politics in the Off Topic section of a college message board about anything they can find negative about Trump, like you do about Biden and Harris? My guess is your posts on politics constitute close to 75 percent of the total posts, are you neurotic or affected by the rhetoric?
This is factually incorrect. Posted government data on this somewhere in Off Topic section earlier.
No, I only speak truth to power. I am gentle, 95% of what Harris and Biden have done has immeasurably harmed this country. The left is completely unhinged.
Galli - much of what you post is anecdotal, flat-out false, from sources with an axe to grind or simply your own opinion - not the truth. And if you think a few Spider alums are the "power" your statement "I only speak truth to power" is a bit grandiose. Perhaps you should do some research on what "speak truth to power" actually means, its origins etc. All you're doing is turning one distant corner of a message board into your personal op-ed page. Maybe you should look into getting a Substack account and see if people will pay for your "truth."
Can you think of anything the Biden Administration has done wrong?
Did you even go to UR? I see no reasoning.
In your flaccid ad hominem attacks, you missed the following analytical points i have made. I am still looking for a reasoned defense from you liberals to the following points.
Please provide a defense for
The Biden Doctrine- appeasement and weakness abroad and open borders at home.
The embarrassing and humiliating pull out of Afghanistan, it was like a fatal self inflicted gun shot wound that missed.
The failure of the Biden Administration to fully support the Ukrainians. He has failed to provide the resources that Congress authorized, while thousands of 16s and M1 tanks lay in scrap yards across this country.
The appeasement of Russias invasion of Ukraine.
The appeasement of Iran, giving them billions in payments for hostages and allowing hundreds of billions of funds to flow to Iran.
The failure to hold China to account for Covid.
The stupid policy forcing American car makers to produce mostly EVs beginning in 2027.
The asinine attack on fossil fuels
The canceling of LNG terminal permits on the east coast, when our allies need gas the most.
The pumping of trillions of dollars into the economy, when there were supply chain bottlenecks, resulting in unchecked inflation. Too much money chasing too few goods. I am still waiting for a defense of this one.
Allowing more than 10 million people across our Southern border, causing crime to spike, creating inflationary demand for food staples and housing and hurting the employment prospects of our most needy citizens.
The funny thing is that Kamala Harris can't think of anything that the Biden administration did wrong.
Can you?
Every time I think I am finished you idiots and your great leaders do or say something stupid.
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