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2024 Presidential Election

Gallipoli said:
Do you think Biden should drop out?
And do you think he will drop out?
I am just curious.
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My answers are still No and No.
The US President answers to no one, except to the people and to his God.
I will also add that neither angry left wing donors, nor left wing assasins have a right to determine who the next President of the United States.
 
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Gallipoli said:
My answers are still No and No.
The US President answers to no one, except to the people and to his God.
I will also add that neither angry left wing donors, nor left wing assasins have a right to determine who the next President of the United States.
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Stop the nonsense. The shooter was a Republican.

And you certainly didn't have a problem with right-wing terrorists trying to determine the next president by attempting to overturn the government and the election in 2020.
 
Too many people believe Biden is losing.... In 2022, I listened to the pundits both left and right. There was no red wave. Now I don't believe those who say Biden is losing....

"Yes, we are facing an unusual set of X-factors that could render the lessons of history inoperative. But defeatism guarantees defeat. The Democrats may need to fight more of an uphill battle than necessary, but uphill battles can still be won."

washingtonmonthly.com

Get a Grip, Democrats. You Can Still Win This | Washington Monthly

Get a Grip, Democrats. You Can Still Win This. Biden's not far behind, the economic conditions remain excellent, and a vile assassination attempt in July doesn't determine November's outcome.
washingtonmonthly.com washingtonmonthly.com
 
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Gallipoli said:
Are you afraid to answer these simple questions? Still waiting.
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Afraid? Give me a break.

Do I think he will drop out? Not of his own volition.

Do I think he should drop out? I would much, much, much rather see a younger candidate.

It should have been made clear to Biden months ago that he was to be a one-term president, that he did his job by trouncing the fat POS, ending the pandemic and by passing important legislation like infrastructure, etc. Now pass the torch and enjoy your retirement.
 
Wood Hall said:
Afraid? Give me a break.

Do I think he will drop out? Not of his own volition.

Do I think he should drop out? I would much, much, much rather see a younger candidate.

It should have been made clear to Biden months ago that he was to be a one-term president, that he did his job by trouncing the fat POS, ending the pandemic and by passing important legislation like infrastructure, etc. Now pass the torch and enjoy your retirement.
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Point of order:

Believe ending the pandemic honors belongs to the guy that streamlined the development of a vaccine. Was all but complete before his successor stumbled through the door.
 
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Wood Hall said:
Afraid? Give me a break.

Do I think he will drop out? Not of his own volition.

Do I think he should drop out? I would much, much, much rather see a younger candidate.

It should have been made clear to Biden months ago that he was to be a one-term president, that he did his job by trouncing the fat POS, ending the pandemic and by passing important legislation like infrastructure, etc. Now pass the torch and enjoy your retirement.
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Wow. Just Wow. Biden should not go without a fight. He deserves that much. I can't believe his party is turning its back on him. It shows just how weak he really is.

Now Adam Schiff is calling for Biden to bow out.

 
Wood Hall said:
Afraid? Give me a break.

Do I think he will drop out? Not of his own volition.

Do I think he should drop out? I would much, much, much rather see a younger candidate.

Now pass the torch and enjoy your retirement.
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Your hypocrisy is stunning. Joe Biden got 14,465,519 votes for President from Democrats. They want to subvert democracy by abrogating those votes. The democrats are undermining Democracy through a brazen power grab by Kamala Harris. You want to erase 14 million votes, 87% of those cast. Democracy is in peril.
 
Anonymous sources keep stating that every major elected Democrat is turning against President Biden. They are trying to convince the rest of us that Democrats are turning against the President. This time it's Nancy Pelosi. Unless they name sources, it's just hot air.

"What everyone is still waiting to see is how much the “drop Biden” effort is an organized movement with a true leader and how much of it is just disparate griping from individual members that ends up nowhere near critical mass. There are constant hints of the so-called “dam breaking,” but it’s yet to occur three weeks after the debate.

So far no one individual has assumed the mantle of visibly organizing the opposition to Biden."

www.semafor.com

As Adam Schiff urges President Biden to drop out, eyes turn to Nancy Pelosi | Semafor

The California Congressman is seen as especially close to the former House Speaker.
www.semafor.com www.semafor.com
 
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This article compares the strength (and foolishness of Republicans) of Trump to the frailty of Biden.

"Trump just choreographed one of the most remarkable shows of dominance in any political party of the modern age, requiring his vanquished primary foes to pledge fealty in front of a primetime television audience at the convention on Tuesday. Biden is, meanwhile, losing control of his party, clashing heatedly with lawmakers who warn he’ll cost them the White House, Senate and the House and as party grandees — like California Rep. Adam Schiff — publicly say he should step aside....

Presidential elections are won by votes of millions of Americans in the fall – not snapshots of the relative fortunes of campaigns in July. And Trump’s apparent momentum may have been inflated by a convention that is showcasing a party he has stripped of all dissenting voices in an eight-year political purge. The ex-president remains deeply unpopular nationally and millions of Americans disdain his personality cult..."

 
Gallipoli said:
Your hypocrisy is stunning. Joe Biden got 14,465,519 votes for President from Democrats. They want to subvert democracy by abrogating those votes. The democrats are undermining Democracy through a brazen power grab by Kamala Harris. You want to erase 14 million votes, 87% of those cast. Democracy is in peril.
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Asking someone to do what is best for the country in the long run is not hypocrisy. Biden clearly does not have a wherewithal physically to govern capably for the next four years, so he should step aside.

It's hilarious that anyone associated with the Republican party, the masterminds, conspirators and participants in the attempted coup on 1/6/2021, can accuse anyone in the Democrat party of "undermining democracy." Look in the mirror. You tried to overthrow the government. You failed.
 
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Wood Hall said:
Asking someone to do what is best for the country in the long run is not hypocrisy. Biden clearly does not have a wherewithal physically to govern capably for the next four years, so he should step aside.

It's hilarious that anyone associated with the Republican party, the masterminds, conspirators and participants in the attempted coup on 1/6/2021, can accuse anyone in the Democrat party of "undermining democracy." Look in the mirror. You tried to overthrow the government. You failed.
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Your words belie the hypocrisy. Those who want to abrogate the votes of 14,465,000 in favor of another candidate are subversives looking to over throw an existing US President. I grant that the other 519 individuals may want him out, but Biden has the overwhelming majority of votes and pledged delegates. The 519 are imposing their will on the rest. This is a coup, pure and simple. How is it not?
 
Gallipoli said:
Your words belie the hypocrisy. Those who want to abrogate the votes of 14,465,000 in favor of another candidate are subversives looking to over throw an existing US President. I grant that the other 519 individuals may want him out, but Biden has the overwhelming majority of votes and pledged delegates. The 519 are imposing their will on the rest. This is a coup, pure and simple. How is it not?
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You should lay off the crazy pills. Does Costco sell them in bulk to Republicans?

He will voluntarily withdraw, complete his term, and not run for reelection. If that's a coup, you should also consider buying the Huguenot Bridge.
 
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urfan1 said:
It will only happen if Joe decides to step aside.
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Yes, voluntarily. Not some so-called "coup" or some other insane right-wing fantasy from the same people who sold their followers on "the big lie" and other made-up wet dreams.

Meanwhile, we're not at war someplace, for the second year in a row, for the first time in decades. We are experiencing full employment and rising living standards not seen in decades. Crime and violence are falling to record lows. We're energy independent.

But the party who will have a blatant racist introduce a criminal presidential candidate whose veep has compared to Hitler will tell you the country is going to hell.
 
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Fervently held view, obviously, but also a minority view if multiple polls from across the spectrum are to be believed. His failings, foreign and domestic, are manifold.
 
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urfan1 said:
It burns trump up that Joe has something he never will, a family that loves him.
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You could not be more wrong. Probably beneath you but you should listen the DJT”s wife, son, and granddaughter describe their admiration for him. Shame on you.
 
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localspider said:
You could not be more wrong. Probably beneath you but you should listen the DJT”s wife, son, and granddaughter describe their admiration for him. Shame on you.
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They're all in on the grift. Meadow loved Tony. Didn't make him less of a criminal.
 
urfan1 said:
It will only happen if Joe decides to step aside.
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More like pushed aside, by donors and President Obama. By the way, Sen. Tester D-Mont has called on Biden to drop out. Tester is losing in polls to his Republican challenger by 5 points. This is a desperate ploy.

www.foxnews.com

Vulnerable Dem Tester calls on Biden to drop out after giving Schumer heads up

Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., joined the growing group of Democrats calling on Biden to drop out of the 2024 race. He is the second Democratic senator to do so.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
Wood Hall said:
Asking someone to do what is best for the country in the long run is not hypocrisy. Biden clearly does not have a wherewithal physically to govern capably for the next four years, so he should step aside.

It's hilarious that anyone associated with the Republican party, the masterminds, conspirators and participants in the attempted coup on 1/6/2021, can accuse anyone in the Democrat party of "undermining democracy." Look in the mirror. You tried to overthrow the government. You failed.
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Horsefeathers. You crack me up.
 
Anyone who makes it through this rambling incoherent diatribe Trump is vomiting up right now should get a medal. Or maybe an ear bandage.
 
What is your response to this? Still waiting.

The US President answers to no one, except to the people and to his God.
I will also add that neither angry left wing donors, nor back benchers in the House or Senate concerned for their jobs, nor left wing assasins have a right to determine who the next President of the United States.

Joe Biden got 14,465,519 votes for President from Democrats. They want to subvert democracy by abrogating those votes. The democrats are undermining Democracy through a brazen power grab by Kamala Harris. You want to erase 14 million votes, 87% of those cast. Democracy is in peril.

This is about retaining power at all costs... it is not the will of the people.

Is what is happening to Joe Biden subverting democracy or not?
 
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Jesus Christ dude, democracy is not in peril unless Trump somehow is elected again. The Democratic Party is free to nominate whoever it wants. It's not a subversion of democracy if Biden is not the nominee, and as someone who has spent the better part of four years posting every link he can find from the internet explaining how awful Biden is, I would expect you to be leading the parade for anyone other than Biden to be nominated.
 
Gallipoli said:
What is your response to this? Still waiting.

The US President answers to no one, except to the people and to his God.
I will also add that neither angry left wing donors, nor back benchers in the House or Senate concerned for their jobs, nor left wing assasins have a right to determine who the next President of the United States.

Joe Biden got 14,465,519 votes for President from Democrats. They want to subvert democracy by abrogating those votes. The democrats are undermining Democracy through a brazen power grab by Kamala Harris. You want to erase 14 million votes, 87% of those cast. Democracy is in peril.

This is about retaining power at all costs... it is not the will of the people.

Is what is happening to Joe Biden subverting democracy or not?
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Is this right or not? Still waiting for a yes or no.
 
localspider said:
You could not be more wrong. Probably beneath you but you should listen the DJT”s wife, son, and granddaughter describe their admiration for him. Shame on you.
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Yeah, I'm sure Melania admires Trump and his infidelity right after she had his son. With a porn star, no less. Apparently one of many dalliances. I hope she was getting tested regularly for STDs. My guess is she's hanging around for monetary reasons and to protect her son. Maybe she's getting paid for her appearances and the fake smiles she gives him by the hour.
 
Joe Biden is the Democrats' nominee. Anything else is subversive. Listen to Joe Biden's own words in his letter:

“Fellow Democrats,” Biden cited many reasons for remaining in the race, placing particular emphasis on the argument that he was the choice of Democratic primary voters, and that it would be wrong to disregard their voice.

“The voters of the Democratic Party have voted. They have chosen me to be the nominee of the party. Do we now just say this process didn’t matter? That the voters don’t have a say?” Biden wrote. “It was their decision to make. Not the press, not the pundits, not the big donors, not any selected group of individuals, no matter how well intentioned. The voters – and the voters alone – decide the nominee of the Democratic Party.”

Driving the point home, Biden painted his stubborn stand as critical to his larger defense of American democracy. “How can we stand for democracy in our nation if we ignore it in our own party? I cannot do that. I will not do that.”

 
Gallipoli said:
What is your response to this? Still waiting.

The US President answers to no one, except to the people and to his God.
I will also add that neither angry left wing donors, nor back benchers in the House or Senate concerned for their jobs, nor left wing assasins have a right to determine who the next President of the United States.

Joe Biden got 14,465,519 votes for President from Democrats. They want to subvert democracy by abrogating those votes. The democrats are undermining Democracy through a brazen power grab by Kamala Harris. You want to erase 14 million votes, 87% of those cast. Democracy is in peril.

This is about retaining power at all costs... it is not the will of the people.

Is what is happening to Joe Biden subverting democracy or not?
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Still waiting.
 
responded before but it must not be the answer you want, its up to Joe if he wants to run he will, if not he will step aside and release his delegates to vote their conscience.
 
Disappointed in the Party. Should have never reached this point this late in the process. Obvious for some time the President was slipping and not up to another term. Don't believe many saw the abundant evidence of this from the reporting of several "mainstream" news outlets, but the folks in close contact with him surely knew.

Wish him well. Gave it his best, but eventually Father Time catches up with us all.
 
Long Time Spider Fan said:
Yeah, I'm sure Melania admires Trump and his infidelity right after she had his son. With a porn star, no less. Apparently one of many dalliances. I hope she was getting tested regularly for STDs. My guess is she's hanging around for monetary reasons and to protect her son. Maybe she's getting paid for her appearances and the fake smiles she gives him by the hour.
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I wonder if Hillary "smokes" cigars?
 
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Gallipoli said:
Joe Biden is the Democrats' nominee. Anything else is subversive. Listen to Joe Biden's own words in his letter:

“Fellow Democrats,” Biden cited many reasons for remaining in the race, placing particular emphasis on the argument that he was the choice of Democratic primary voters, and that it would be wrong to disregard their voice.

“The voters of the Democratic Party have voted. They have chosen me to be the nominee of the party. Do we now just say this process didn’t matter? That the voters don’t have a say?” Biden wrote. “It was their decision to make. Not the press, not the pundits, not the big donors, not any selected group of individuals, no matter how well intentioned. The voters – and the voters alone – decide the nominee of the Democratic Party.”

Driving the point home, Biden painted his stubborn stand as critical to his larger defense of American democracy. “How can we stand for democracy in our nation if we ignore it in our own party? I cannot do that. I will not do that.”

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Respond to Joe Biden’s own words, anyone.
 
Gallipoli said:
Respond to Joe Biden’s own words, anyone.
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Circumstances change. You seem scared to death that Biden might drop out and remove his age as a campaign issue. Then Republicans would have to argue the issues, which they can't because they have no popular positions on anything.
 
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