2023–24 NET Ratings
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At least the women went up 1 spot for their dominating win yesterday!
The numbers don't like UR, they don't now and won't in a couple weeks. Don't let it stress you - the damage was done months ago. We lost some to some teams OOC that it turns out are outright dogs, which is why we're sweating every single game in conference. Beat WSU and UNI and a loss at VCU as an 18-3 team would sting, but the buffer would be there. But it isn't so the sting is exponential with regard to the rest of the season. There is simply no safety net (no pun intended.) UR needs a lot of wins - a whole lot - and hopefully to be the regular season A10 champs for an at large to be in play. Those two things are what would counter the NET, probably nothing else IMO.
Agree 100% Brownstone. Just need to keep winning. Yes, the earlier season opportunities missed dug us a big hole. That is why a bunch of us on this board were so bummed, with the better defense, and King, and better offensive flow it really seemed that those were winnable games that we either played down to the competition (Wichita, UNI) or did not raise to the competition. Just need to win out - maybe one loss - and beat VCU in return game. It is out there for the taking. But yes, it seems like the Net and KP numbers will only move a little based on the body of work.
The net total for the Spiders will not move up precipitously, but expect them to move down with a loss. Richmond went from 68 last week after the Dayton win to 74 now.
8legs1dream
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The number 1 team in the A10 with a 74 NET shows you how little respect the A10 gets.
polls might reflect respect, but the NET and RPI ... that's just math.
8legs1dream
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You think the formulas that constitute these things aren't corrupted by the P5's? I sure as hell do.
You know how you game a mathematical system? You win all those games you're supposed to - as a team and as a conference.
But you cannot do it if
1) You don't take care of business OOC yourself.
2) Multiple league teams regularly put up losing records OOC. Big East only has Depaul as an anchor and even they usually hover around .500 OOC before their plunge. Everyone else goes 11-2 or better. I did a breakdown of the BE nonsensical SOS numbers probably 4 years ago when we were bubbling and up against some BE teams for at large spot. Some of them come into league play with OOC SOS numbers around 300 that magically jumped to top 75 or top 50 by end of league play bc they get to play only teams with winning records (and Depawful.) Too lazy to look that post up, but it was staggering jumps, made possible by a smaller league with teams that all won OOC and won big (except Depawful.)
But you cannot do it if
1) You don't take care of business OOC yourself.
2) Multiple league teams regularly put up losing records OOC. Big East only has Depaul as an anchor and even they usually hover around .500 OOC before their plunge. Everyone else goes 11-2 or better. I did a breakdown of the BE nonsensical SOS numbers probably 4 years ago when we were bubbling and up against some BE teams for at large spot. Some of them come into league play with OOC SOS numbers around 300 that magically jumped to top 75 or top 50 by end of league play bc they get to play only teams with winning records (and Depawful.) Too lazy to look that post up, but it was staggering jumps, made possible by a smaller league with teams that all won OOC and won big (except Depawful.)
Not sure where to post, but I see we are mentioned in ESPN's bubble watch. Obviously much work to do but good to be on the radar.
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So…
on 1/31 favored by 2 win in the bronx by 14 = 70 to 68
on 2/6 favored by 4 win in the Bronx by 15 = 87 to 80 ?!?
If our NET is 120 right now, yeah, who really gives a shit, play the younger guys in blow outs. But it isn't, we are among a handful of teams right now that are competing for a smaller handful of at large bids, so that philosophy needs to take a back seat at present.
And you know what we would be great for team culture, playing in the NCAA's, probably way more than Aiden Noyes getting 2 minutes of action at the end of blowout where his basic instructions are to dribble the ball around and run out the clock.
We need to squeeze every last ounce out of the NET every opportunity we get right now.
We've been out of the auto bid slot with Lunardi since Dayton moved a half game ahead of us in the standings earlier this week, but we're on his radar for at-large in his update today. 14th team out! 
And as he says, we'll move back into the auto bid slot if Dayton loses tonight.
And as he says, we'll move back into the auto bid slot if Dayton loses tonight.
Damn you Princeton!We've been out of the auto bid slot with Lunardi since Dayton moved a half game ahead of us in the standings earlier this week, but we're on his radar for at-large in his update today. 14th team out!
And as he says, we'll move back into the auto bid slot if Dayton loses tonight.
And we have a much better program than Gonzaga!
{Thats how you do sarcasm}
Wait, it will help us if we have to root for VCU? I just don't know that I can do that.We've been out of the auto bid slot with Lunardi since Dayton moved a half game ahead of us in the standings earlier this week, but we're on his radar for at-large in his update today. 14th team out!
And as he says, we'll move back into the auto bid slot if Dayton loses tonight.
Showing up on CBS Sports bubble watch as well - saying we need to win out regular season to have a shot. They show us as the 8th team out currently. Just need to keep winning - starting today with La Salle.
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Just keep winning, baby!!
Shit. You mean the NET might not be contrived entirely against us. vcu gained 4, while we gained 6 for beating Dayton.
Just keep winning, baby!!
Watching the Gameday telecast now and what I find interesting is that Dayton is listed as a 4 seed stll. Their status doesnt change at all after losing to two teams not considered very good in NET and the teams who beat them dont go up in status.
I know its good that Dayton keep a high profile and seed, but it validstes the idea that once the rankings are set after the OOC they pretty much stay there. I think Dayton could lose a couple more conference games and still barely budge in the rankings.
I know its good that Dayton keep a high profile and seed, but it validstes the idea that once the rankings are set after the OOC they pretty much stay there. I think Dayton could lose a couple more conference games and still barely budge in the rankings.
Not contrived against UR but rather this shows again that the rankings are already set .
Yes, out of conference matters a lot. And Richmond and vcu are not bad teams, so it's not going to kill them to lose to them on the road.
The upside to last night is that now our loss there shouldn't count much against us, since the alleged "best" team in three league did, too.
Spiders' win over UNLV is looking better. The Runnin' Rebels just knocked off the #25 Lobos.
UNLV NET 97 -> 87 .. not impossible that our UNLV wins becomes a back door Quad 1.
It’s taken four wins including this big one and they still haven’t quite recovered from the 24-spot drop they suffered a few weeks ago getting blown out by a bad Air Force team.
I’d like to ask vt4700 if he thinks Dayton was still “not close to a must win”. I died on that must win hill he didn’t like it. Just don’t see any way 14-4 a10 w a loss to Dayton as 4700 surmised possibly puts us on bubble. With how Net operates it would kill us, too hard for us to make gains. Seems it will take crazy a10 record like not losing just to be in low net 50s.
It’s better for board & board activity when he’s posting imo. tho I realize not all agree.
It’s better for board & board activity when he’s posting imo. tho I realize not all agree.
Not on topic but watching Wake/Duke game and I cant believe how DUMB these coaches are for numerously calling TO’s to stop runs and momentum. How could they possibly think that is a good idea? I guess they didnt read the Mooney “always wait for the media timeout” section in the coaching handbook.
This X 1000
We're still debating the NET on here while not understanding how it is actually used. Nothing has changed.
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