On the other side of the coin, UR decided it was not happy with how the CAA added three schools we didn't like and that we think we are better than. We took our marbles to play with a a group we think are more like us, away from low lifes Ike Hampton, Campbell and NCAT. We are snobs and the rest of the conference resents that. UR has burned bridges.

The hypocrisy and pettiness is stunning and was directed at our players

Given that, the league's treatment of this team is abhorrent and petty. We proved it on the field that we are the best team in the conference and it wasn't even close.

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Taking Vermont -9.5 against Fairfield

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Sorry Gkiller, my irrational exuberance on the Tommies was unwarranted once again.

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They did cover by 1000 yesterday.

Gallipoli said:

I was shocked that William and Mary underperformed this season. They had almost the same team back from last year. They seemed to come out flat today. It felt like they were just dialing it in.

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We made them look flat. OL and DL. Tribe is a very good rushing team. They couldn’t run on us and we wore them down on offense. Beautiful simple football.

What does the A10 commissioner have to do with our own miserable coaching situation?

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One sack in particular came with UR rushing only 4 men (against 5 blockers), which sort of said it all about the effort of the Spiders.

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lol do u have any original thoughts? Direct post from the W&M message board thread u linked…

“The really bad thing about that sack was it came with UR rushing only 4 men (against 5 blockers), which sort of said it all about the effort of the Spiders as opposed to the effort by W&M.”

Also, I don’t really get the point. 4 man rushes get sacks commonly. Beat your man 1 on 1.

However I agree dominant win credit to Spiders tho a little surprising W&M rolled over like that too.

SIU was top 10 at the time of their game, but obviously didn’t live up to that early billing. MVFC is obviously really tough sledding, so I don’t know that Wofford would be considered a better loss.

Commish Joey lives in Rhode Island full time.Spends little if any time at CAA HQ.

Bryant also in Rhode Island,given green light membership by Commish Joey to join CAA with little multilateral discussion.

Will never buy another meal or drink again in this smallest state.

Eight Legger said:

I get that, but we still beat a team in Delaware that would have been ranked in the top 15 all year, a 7-5 Towson team and a W&M team that had a shot at the playoffs with a win today. Half of our conference wins are against teams in the top half of the league (if you exclude us). And hopefully we have made it abundantly clear to the committee that we changed QBs after the first two games and then proceeded to win 10 straight.

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I want a top 8 seed as bad as anyone. I think Spiders get the nod over UIW, but haven't made it easy with that loss to Wofford and 3 point wins over 3 bad teams.

SFspidur said:

The CAA is seen as a bit of a paper tiger conference, with teams able to rack up gaudy records without necessarily having to face many other good teams because there’s so many schools.

Good enough to earn a decent number of bids, but nobody able to really stand out by running a gauntlet of quality teams.

But no, I’m certainly not sold on UIW or Mercer either.

Our Wofford loss hurt us badly.

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Mercer has a good defense and did beat the next three best teams in SoCon. Incarnate Word and Spiders might well be 8 & 9
I want to think a 10-game win streak carries some weight with the committee.

Eight Legger said:

So they're taking two 10-2 teams from one-bid leagues and seeding them but not seeding the 10-2 champion of a 4-bid league? Make it make sense.

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The CAA is seen as a bit of a paper tiger conference, with teams able to rack up gaudy records without necessarily having to face many other good teams because there’s so many schools.

Good enough to earn a decent number of bids, but nobody able to really stand out by running a gauntlet of quality teams.

But no, I’m certainly not sold on UIW or Mercer either.

Our Wofford loss hurt us badly.

Maybe they ought to hand out 13 runners up trophies to make sure everybody gets one.

whampas said:

It's late and I'm old so it's highly likely that I'm confused but it was announced last week that even if we lost to the Indians we would share the championship and get the auto bid. If that happened and you throw out the Delaware results wouldn't the Rams win it outright? The whole thing seems to be fudged up.

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Yes, here I am delving into tiebreaker minutiae, and missing the forest for the trees. A Spider loss today would have given the Rams the sole championship and the auto if UD games were omitted entirely, which clearly wasn’t the case.

The UD games aren’t counted only in this one very specific aspect where URI losing to them cost them a share of the championship.

The UD games apparently count in every regard except for trophy purposes.

They clearly didn’t throw it out entirely for both of us because otherwise we couldn’t have clinched last week. They can’t just throw it out for URI because then we still win the sole champ with 8–0 vs 7–0. So they just wave their wands and make up a nonsensical way to give URI a trophy.

mojo-spider said:

We knew before the season that DE could not be Champion and was not eligible for the Playoffs, but did we know their wins and losses would not be counted in determining a CAA Champion?

If so, I guess someone in our AD may have known that’s how determining the Champion would work and if so they, or the CAA should have announced it to avoid all this BS from what seems like a decision that came out of left field.

Go Spiders!

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It's late and I'm old so it's highly likely that I'm confused but it was announced last week that even if we lost to the Indians we would share the championship and get the auto bid. If that happened and you throw out the Delaware results wouldn't the Rams win it outright? The whole thing seems to be fudged up.

VT4700 said:

Even if decided before the season, it's inexcusable for a conference commissioner to do what he did and go to their locker room with a trophy and call Rhode Island CAA champs. That is a big time piece of crap move. If the coach and team wants to pretend they are CAA champs, whatever, have fun with that even though it's pretty stupid, but a league commissioner has no reason to do that with the trophy and all that BS.

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interesting they had 2 trophies ready and league reps at both schools.

One sack in particular came with UR rushing only 4 men (against 5 blockers), which sort of said it all about the effort of the Spiders.

urfan1 said:

we beat a solid team today, don't take away from their efforts.

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You are correct. A case in point: This was a dominant effort by the offense and defense. They had the ball for all of 3 and one half minutes in the 3rd Q. That is an incredible statistic.

We were declared auto bid winners last week, which means the Delaware games counted for tiebreaker purposes one way or another. If UD games were thrown out entirely, we and URI would have both been 6–0 with tied common opponent record, pushing the tiebreaker to point differential which couldn’t have been locked up with a week to go.

Seems they played fast and loose with picking and choosing which aspects Delaware counted for.

Gallipoli said:

I was shocked that William and Mary underperformed this season. They had almost the same team back from last year. They seemed to come out flat today. It felt like they were just dialing it in.

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we beat a solid team today, don't take away from their efforts.

Even if decided before the season, it's inexcusable for a conference commissioner to do what he did and go to their locker room with a trophy and call Rhode Island CAA champs. That is a big time piece of crap move. If the coach and team wants to pretend they are CAA champs, whatever, have fun with that even though it's pretty stupid, but a league commissioner has no reason to do that with the trophy and all that BS.

mojo-spider said:

ODU had the best CAA record at 7-1 but like DE were ineligible for CAA Championship.

Richmond, Villanova and New Hampshire tied for 2nd place with 6-2 CAA records. The three teams were declared Co-Champions. Our overall record was 8-3 better than Nova’s and the Wildcats.

ODU was eligible for the FCS Playoffs and took an At-Large bid. I do not recall whether Nova or NH got the CAA Auto-Bid, but one did and the other got an At-Large.

We were left out of the Playoffs despite having a better overall record than the other At-Large team from the CAA!

Plain and simple we was robbed!

Go Spiders!

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Yes, ODU was tops in the CAA but ineligible for the auto due to transitioning. Notably, they were eligible for the playoffs and got a at-large. Nova got the CAA auto bid.

We didn’t have a better overall record than the others that got bids…us, Nova, and UNH were all 8–3 and 6–2 in the CAA.

We were probably in a better position than Nova for an at-large but the convoluted tiebreakers gave them the auto and we were left without a seat at the table.

I was shocked that William and Mary underperformed this season. They had almost the same team back from last year. They seemed to come out flat today. It felt like they were just dialing it in.

Eight Legger said:

To answer someone's question above, this Delaware thing was decided before the season, so this is not a last-minute decision -- it's just an absurd decision.

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We knew before the season that DE could not be Champion and was not eligible for the Playoffs, but did we know their wins and losses would not be counted in determining a CAA Champion?

If so, I guess someone in our AD may have known that’s how determining the Champion would work and if so they, or the CAA should have announced it to avoid all this BS from what seems like a decision that came out of left field.

Go Spiders!

Eight Legger said:

To answer someone's question above, this Delaware thing was decided before the season, so this is not a last-minute decision -- it's just an absurd decision.

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Thanks