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Spiders Collective-Season Preview-Oct 4

Anachnid
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You are basically outlining the old Spider Club killed by the Athletic Dept/school.
The intergenerational excitement outside the Chattanooga stadium will never be replicated under the big hat no cattle athletic dept.
The ending of the Spider Club was a big “ get lost” to longtime supporters who enjoyed the camaraderie of fellow Spiders.
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Spiders Collective-Season Preview-Oct 4

GKiller
SpiderTrap said:
My point was they may spend 300-400 on a membership - because it lasts an entire year and may give them "access".

Using this preview event as an example. Maybe you have membership levels - Lets say Bronze, Silver, and Gold. Gold being $500, Silver $350, and Bronze $200. Then throughout the year - the collective has events. Some events are open to all levels, and then other events are only open to upper levels - say Gold and Silver. But there will be small fee to attend these events as well.

So for the preview - they could say - open to all Collective membership levels. But to attend - its $20 -$30 maybe even $50 a ticket. Enough to cover the cost of the event, but also make a little money on top of the membership money. This might lure the casual fan into the collective because they may feel the ability to attend multiple events.

Not saying one method is better than other, just something I have seen at other schools.
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But didn't u define the casual fan - through Brooklyn post - as someone not donating? so why would that fan all of sudden get a $400 membership when they previously didn't donate & normally just attend a few or more games a year. I contend they won't. that's why this being for the casual fan is a little confusing. if we can get the casual fan to do it...awesome. we'll do much better. I'd say if the casual fan is willing to do this we would have been killing it more with Spider Club too in the past and we really weren't imo.

btw I'm not against what you're proposing w a collective membership. I just don't see casual fans doing it. I think it would be for UR supporters who are definitely more than casual but on more of a budget.

If we were more succssful as a program we could convert casual fans into more serious fans and that would help down the road theoretically.
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Tyler Kropp - 2025 Offer

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Ideally we do get a bigger/taller kid in the class. However, I do think it is a reasonable plan to target HS for the PG and wing guys that maybe are underrecruited due to the portal, and use the portal to fill the 1-2 "tall guy" spots. I think in particular short, underrecruited PGs, and experienced, skilled point forwards/point centers looking for a starring role can clearly see a track record of success here.
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Spiders Collective-Season Preview-Oct 4

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GKiller said:
But do u think the common/casual fans r spending 3 or 4 hundo on a membership to pay athletes? Imo and experience they r not. I’m curious how missing out on their $. The casual fan will buy tix on ad hoc basis & occasional merchandise. There r exceptions there always r a few. probably some former student athletes who don’t pay too much attention to UR teams but would do so as courtesy. But overall pretty limited. Heck I think the Spider Club had trouble getting the stronger than the casual fan to donate. If we did an honest poll of posters just on here - diehards - I bet the % of donating is lower than u think. Personally I still have trouble with NIL but not SC.

This event is not for the common fan. And that’s fine. If we can attract those fans or even more of the non casual fans in future we’ll have this in Robins Center.
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My point was they may spend 300-400 on a membership - because it lasts an entire year and may give them "access".

Using this preview event as an example. Maybe you have membership levels - Lets say Bronze, Silver, and Gold. Gold being $500, Silver $350, and Bronze $200. Then throughout the year - the collective has events. Some events are open to all levels, and then other events are only open to upper levels - say Gold and Silver. But there will be small fee to attend these events as well.

So for the preview - they could say - open to all Collective membership levels. But to attend - its $20 -$30 maybe even $50 a ticket. Enough to cover the cost of the event, but also make a little money on top of the membership money. This might lure the casual fan into the collective because they may feel the ability to attend multiple events.

Not saying one method is better than other, just something I have seen at other schools.
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Do you approve of the move to the Patriot League?

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The main issue to me is the lack of action taken a decade ago. We had all the momentum in the world coming off the national title in 2008, FCS was getting some attention and TV markets were expanding. The forward thinking institutions saw an opportunity and took advantage. We put the car in park on the highway and let others pass us. And, let’s be honest, for those that care about academic rankings - we’ve underperformed and this is part of it. It’s been unfortunate to watch our leaders squander what those before them built.
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Mens 2024 - 2025 Polls/Rankings/Awards

SFspidur
Haslametrics preseason ratings are out with the Spiders at #113. Projecting a record of 15–12 in known D-I games (Mt. Olive and MTE omitted) with an A-10 record of 8–10. Rated 8th in the A-10.

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Haslametrics: A unique approach to college basketball analysis

The goal of Haslametrics is to provide unique statistical insight and to offer predictive analysis based on teams' prior performances in a given season.
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Tyler Kropp - 2025 Offer

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Would still like to find a bigger guy in this class with Harper, Richardson, and Argabright all being guards, but we don't have any offers out that I'm aware of. We've obviously got Robinson and McGlothin coming up the pipeline, so we're not desperate, but still, need to keep refilling with guys of all sizes.

For reference, we're losing Hunt, White, Roche, and Neskovic for sure.
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Do you approve of the move to the Patriot League?

97spiderfan
AnnapSpider said:
They didn’t make the move without money being in the thought process. Yes, we probably lose
money on football, but if we knew the whole story we would see money as a major consideration.
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Our most recently released football budget was about $7,300,000, which they said during the press conference they were not reducing to move to Patriot League.

So, if money was an issue as you postulate, than the President flat out lied during the press conference. Also, we could run our entire football program off of about 10 days of interest accrued on our 3.2 billion dollar endowment, so if he did lie to us and it was to save maybe a half million dollars on the football program, than our leadership at UR complete financial morons.

Money is not an issue. As others have said, the ivory tower academics finally got what they wanted for our football program which is to play in a league with like minded academic institutions and they simply waited for the right time to execute.
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2024–25 schedule

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Our 2024 MTE has 5 teams of 8 announced (countdown clock ticking.)

Their 2025 MTE has 5 of 8 teams announced, including teams we'd kill to play.

Something has to be addressed here. MTE has always been one of the foundational parts of UR's schedule. If they can't get the team into anything good because scheduling philosophies have changed (and we are behind the curve), then there has to be a major philosophy shift to get those missing 2 (minimum) big games.

Don't get me started on a non-D1 team as the home opener (who has to classify the game as an exhibition on their own schedule.)
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2024–25 schedule

97spiderfan
And this is how scheduling is done. VCU gets into these tournaments because their entire program from the A.D. down to the coaches, down to the fan base demand that they be in these type of events. So, it gets done.

Willing to put a healthy wager down that we won't know our MTE until after the upcoming season. No urgency on our end.

Maybe our big spending NIL guys would love to go see a really high caliber MTE next year and could put some pressure on the powers that be to make that happen.

The VCU fan base can already start to make travel plans for Fall 2026 meanwhile Spider fans sit here and can't even make travel plans for our MTE, less than 2 months away because our shit can tournament can't get its act together. And really who is amped up to see us play Ball State and Louisiana Tech in an empty arena.
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