Ulla, s-man where art thou?
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You may be right on Hardt, I wouldn't think he left Bucknell to come here and fail. BUT, has he cashed the $7.5 mil check yet. I hope so and he has a full blown coaching search under way.
I really wonder who will be on the committee. I have seen too many of these searches come out with real head scratcher scenarios. For the 100,000 search firms coming up with crap coaches and then you have the GW search in which they just picked a guy on staff. This worries me more than what is going on now.
It is if this wasn't just a bolt of lightning out of a blue sky. Watching it it looked like a team getting outperformed in every way and not showing a lot of effort. Unless Longwood is showing up with more talent (they're not), that's on the coach. I don't like it. Reminds me of ultimate pain getting crushed/hammered/humiliated at home by Liberty. Nothing can make that feel OK. At least getting hammered by a pretty good UR team at home made a bit of sense.
Anyone who says losing Buck isn't that big a deal is blowing roses.
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I said the top 3 need to play better, but it is fair to put some blame on coaching as well. Time will tell, but I don't think losing Buck is a big deal. Didn't we go 2-10 OOC with Buck last year?
VT, I didn't just randomly post UR has no shot at a bid after the Longwood loss. Researched St Bonny 2016 not getting an at large bid. And please no debate on would of, could of, should of got one. They didn't get in, period.
Using Kenpom, St B went 9-3 in OOC which was #286 in difficulty. Away losses to Cuse (#27) and Siena (#128) along with a home loss to Hofstra (#92). Best win was away at Buffalo (#138). And by tying for the A10 regular season title at 14-4 they still didn't get the bid.
Off the above factual analysis I felt safe to say UR had no chance for at large bid after the loss to 300+ Longwood. Factoring in also weak UR SOS for OOC along with the A10 being in all likelihood weaker this season than 2016.
I will say though my feeling is Longwood and St Francis will end up better than where the pundit numbers have them presently. That being said Mooney's teams should beat them year-in-year-out.
Using Kenpom, St B went 9-3 in OOC which was #286 in difficulty. Away losses to Cuse (#27) and Siena (#128) along with a home loss to Hofstra (#92). Best win was away at Buffalo (#138). And by tying for the A10 regular season title at 14-4 they still didn't get the bid.
Off the above factual analysis I felt safe to say UR had no chance for at large bid after the loss to 300+ Longwood. Factoring in also weak UR SOS for OOC along with the A10 being in all likelihood weaker this season than 2016.
I will say though my feeling is Longwood and St Francis will end up better than where the pundit numbers have them presently. That being said Mooney's teams should beat them year-in-year-out.
Well 4700, Spiders end up with 6-7 OOC and Kenpom schedule at #336. Give me your best IF scenario in A10 play that Mooney's team gets an-large bid without winning the A10 tournament?
Take into account in 2016 some thought St Bonny got screwed (not me) out of a bid. They went 14-4 in A10 play but had a Kenpom OOC schedule at #286.
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VT4700 predictably snarky reply: The only way you can obtain an at large bid is without winning the A10 tournament. If you were to win the A10 tournament you would be the automatic qualifier from the A10. Blah Blah Blah. I remember Johnny Newman and nothing else until 2 years ago about Richmond basketball. Blah Blah Blah. I made up some story about Newman and only Spiderman and Ulla believe I am a Richmond fan without an ulterior motive. Blah Blah Blah.
That was too spot on. Can anyone confirm that 23 and 4700 are not indeed the same person?
Yes we did go 2-10 in OOC with Buck and the Louisville All American Khwan Fore.
Well 4700, Spiders end up with 6-7 OOC and Kenpom schedule at #336. Give me your best IF scenario in A10 play that Mooney's team gets an-large bid without winning the A10 tournament?
Take into account in 2016 some thought St Bonny got screwed (not me) out of a bid. They went 14-4 in A10 play but had a Kenpom OOC schedule at #286.
Not only our 6-7 record, but also the rest of the A-10 struggling out of the gate probably means no A-10 team will get an at large. Maybe the league champ if it goes around 15-3, but even that will depend on who they beat and if some of those 15 wins are top quadrant wins. But, I don't see us getting in at 15-3 and 21-10, even if we lose in tourney final and end 23-11. 16-2 is a maybe if enough of those A-10 wins are good wins, but even that looks shaky. So, if you are trying to get me to say our OOC record this year hurts our at large chances, I can definitely agree with that.
But, other than last year, at large chances almost always came down to A-10 play, who you beat IC, and how good the teams you beat were. Usually, if you finished with a real good A-10 record, you had some quality wins in the there IC, but with the A-10 struggling the past 2 years, I can agree OOC play would be more important than in past years.
Also, our debate was usually around the OOC schedule, and even with this year's schedule, had we gone maybe 10-3 and 15-3 in the A-10, we probably have an at large shot with 25 wins.
Great question. I think it is all about people trying to "prove" my "opinion" was wrong. I agree it is all pretty strange.
Part of my query is why we are talking about fictionally going 25-6 in a year we had absolutely no chance of doing so.
It was a terrible OOC schedule. 6-7 is dreadful and shows we are possibly worse than some hoped. We aren’t going to light the a10 on fire so let’s stop pretending there’s a shot of that happening.
It was a terrible OOC schedule. 6-7 is dreadful and shows we are possibly worse than some hoped. We aren’t going to light the a10 on fire so let’s stop pretending there’s a shot of that happening.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. My guess is that it's shared by very few if any. Now that would be strange.
Wow. Spoken from the guy who dug up a thread where the last post was from mid November to post more nonsense today. Yes, what exactly are we talking about?
If you want I can dig up more of your nonsensical biased posts?
Go for it. Only makes you look more and more childish. And more often than not, they back my point and hurt yours. I showed that we went 7-6 OOC, with no great OOC wins, and were still close to dancing, as we were the 1st team left out a few years ago in saying that A-10 play was more important. Good luck in your continuing effort to say I was wrong.
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I'm the child and making more sense than the adult. Thank you kindly!
Why do all the people with VT in their name go crazy on this board?
Our “best” win has been against a Wake Forest team that lost to Gardner-Webb at home a few days ago and to Houston Baptist earlier this year
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