Blaring article in today's TD clarifying that there is a rule that prevented DN from entering the game.
UH, OH. . .JOC WILL BE IN MOONEY'S DOGHOUSE
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But do we know if Mooney knows the rule yet. At the postgame presser it sounded like our 20 year coach was going to make some calls & get to the bottom of it.
Mooney has been a D-1 basketball coach for 20 years. How in the world does he not know this? I mean this seems like a basic substitution rule.
Dusan was literally the only guy who was scoring for us and he went back to his good old comfort well of offense-defense end of game substitutions, where often times you can't bring your offensive guy back in anyway if there is not stoppage of play. Which just like his baffling use of timeouts and avoidance of offensive rebounding are time tested Mooney coaching strategies that defy basic common basketball sense.
Just make it stop. The man is not a good recruiter, he is not a good X and O's guy, he is not adaptable to his personnel nor broader changes in the game, he is wedded to strategies that flat don't make sense and are not employed by other respected college coaches.
And yet, this guy with all of these obvious flaws is our coach for life. Make it make sense.
Dusan was literally the only guy who was scoring for us and he went back to his good old comfort well of offense-defense end of game substitutions, where often times you can't bring your offensive guy back in anyway if there is not stoppage of play. Which just like his baffling use of timeouts and avoidance of offensive rebounding are time tested Mooney coaching strategies that defy basic common basketball sense.
Just make it stop. The man is not a good recruiter, he is not a good X and O's guy, he is not adaptable to his personnel nor broader changes in the game, he is wedded to strategies that flat don't make sense and are not employed by other respected college coaches.
And yet, this guy with all of these obvious flaws is our coach for life. Make it make sense.
All true but there are those that would disagree with you such as a small pct of posters on this site, loyal former players, athletic administrators, and bot.
We’ll be expressing ongoing frustration no doubt. As I previously said, it’ll never change and never end until we have a new coaching staff totally external to this program.
Ur likes that he's a good representative of the school...that's all I can come up with.
What does Peter Thomas do on the bench? Maybe he can be in charge of rule book and game application of said rule book? Or is that asking too much?
Good question. He proved to be a Mooney clone when he was given the reigns of the program during Mooney's medical absence. Coached liked Mooney, talked like Mooney, didn't take the opportunity he was given in a lost season and try to take his own unique coaching tweaks into the game. That told us what we needed to know about Peter Thomas. He brings the same skill set/beliefs that the head man does.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
It's funny you mention this the other day I was thinking that I hadn't seen a certain Mooneyite post in a while so I went and looked them all up to see the most recent posts. The ones I looked up have been checked out since various times in December. But you just know that if we rip off a nice winning streak they will be back rubbing our noses in it how we were wrong.
Most of us are here through the thick and thin, Mooneyites spend half the time in the bunker underneath Millhiser. Tell me who the real fans are then 🤷♂️
Someone needs to do a well check on UR80's fan. That dude was all over this site preseason with his all of his insider information he got from hobnobbing with PQ and Mooney. His insider proclamations of how good the freshmen were, how good of a shooter GW3 was, how much of an offensive powerhouse we were going to be with all of these shooters.
Lol, and then the season goes south by Mid-November and he has completely vanished. It was probably one of the staff's burner accounts anyway because no one can have that much faith in Mooney unless they are on payroll.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Yep, this was his last post from Oct 23 in the ECU secret scrimmage thread:
"The coaching staff believes we should have pretty good defense this year, although we might give up more points, because we are going to play at a faster pace than we have in recent years."
Mooneyites were drinking their own Koolaid in the offseason and now they are paying the consequences.
I was trying to drink the koolaid pre-season but had a healthy dose of skepticism. Hell, I was believing we would be scoring 80 every game on 40% from 3 - and the issue was we would lose 90-80 too much. I think Dusan is the only transfer that has played out as I expected. And my expectation was that he would be good on offense, and not so good on Defense.
to me, Dusan came as advertised. he's very good.
Beagle ... he's actually putting up similar numbers to his Albany days on a per minute basis. he's just not playing as much. I'm still begging Mooney to play him at big forward a bit. think he could dominate inside from there.
AP ... results aren't there but he might be more than I expected. I think it's just rust holding him back. he didn't play for 2 years. I think its coming. love the fire of him and Dusan.
B Artis has done way less than I expected. maybe he hasn't been healthy. and I probably expected too much. honestly, I expected him to play similarly to King ... which isn't fair.
no idea why expectations vs reality were so wrong with GW3. he hasn't even earned a real chance, even with DeLo out.
Beagle ... he's actually putting up similar numbers to his Albany days on a per minute basis. he's just not playing as much. I'm still begging Mooney to play him at big forward a bit. think he could dominate inside from there.
AP ... results aren't there but he might be more than I expected. I think it's just rust holding him back. he didn't play for 2 years. I think its coming. love the fire of him and Dusan.
B Artis has done way less than I expected. maybe he hasn't been healthy. and I probably expected too much. honestly, I expected him to play similarly to King ... which isn't fair.
no idea why expectations vs reality were so wrong with GW3. he hasn't even earned a real chance, even with DeLo out.
I know this -- GWII better not turn the ball over, even one time, the next game he plays, or else he's gonna be stapled to the bench for the rest of eternity.
We've seen that movie.
We've seen that movie.
That's exactly why I said we need a new coaching staff totally external to UR. An entire new beginning. With that there could be hope.
You’ve always been a rosed colored glasses guy with Mooney. Give you credit for hanging even if you’ve been so wrong
Well I think history is replete with examples of guys who made a mistake and got the quick hook. The “deserved more opportunities” qualifier is interesting, I think the possibility exists that it’s hard to get into any kind of flow when this happens, and this limits a players chance of deserving more time.
Dji Bailey to me fell into this category early in his tenure here.
Dji Bailey for sure. Shawn'dre before Ced got hurt. Duinker. Solly Stansbury comes to mind. Friendshuh. Josh Jones.
Sal Kouressi, although that one is complicated -- not sure if the quick hook was the chicken or the egg there. I wonder if he was given more leash early if he wouldn't have forced it so much, but he definitely repeated his errors, so that's not a hill I'm dying on.
Sal Kouressi, although that one is complicated -- not sure if the quick hook was the chicken or the egg there. I wonder if he was given more leash early if he wouldn't have forced it so much, but he definitely repeated his errors, so that's not a hill I'm dying on.
guys who earned starter or main rotational players status make mistakes and don't get a quick hook.
guys who are outside the top 8 (or so) and who are only going to play in short spurts appear to get a quick hook, but they weren't going to be out there long anyway.
Duinker: tough to crack the lineup behind Geriot, Harper and Garrett. but played 11.4 mpg behind Garrett as a senior.
Friendshuh disappointed.
Sal just wasn't very good. he went on to score 2.9 ppg at Radford.
guys who are outside the top 8 (or so) and who are only going to play in short spurts appear to get a quick hook, but they weren't going to be out there long anyway.
Duinker: tough to crack the lineup behind Geriot, Harper and Garrett. but played 11.4 mpg behind Garrett as a senior.
Friendshuh disappointed.
Sal just wasn't very good. he went on to score 2.9 ppg at Radford.
I asked MDSpider that question in other thread. since he stated they answered a text question of his sent in re: GW3. I presumed he listened to show but idk. Haven't seen reply but I'd say chances r nil even tho a "controversy" (started by Moon) like that you'd expect to be addressed. But AP was a guest, the gw3 question, Ivan, and the rest Eagles. Show over.
Here's the show. GK pretty much nailed it, though it seems like they maybe didn't post the first segment of the show. Maybe that's when Bob really laid into Mooney about his inept coaching? 😆
Yes, Bob actually did address this on BTW. He brought it up directly, had CM describe what happened, and again admitted that it happened once earlier in the game but they did not adjust and had it hurt them again at the end of the game. Bob actually even called out that Jason Vida looked up the rule in the rulebook and found it written there, right after CM said he had never heard of it before. I was pretty satisfied with how it was discussed.
One has to wonder what other rules our head coach and his entire staff not know as well. Maybe someone can tell them that you can indeed go after offensive rebounds AND prevent fast break transition points. These are not mutually exclusive things.
It's like Mooney read the basketball coaching 101 book but his book had half the pages missing.
As I recall, he's had trouble with the five guys on the court at a time rule.
You can’t eat burgers on the court?
