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The Future is Bright

Well, you know I would have fired him about 3 years ago. But if you ask for a number this year, I think he needs to lead this team to a postseason bid, either NIT or NCAA to stay around for next year. I don't know that the win total is though. I think we need a minimum of 20 for an NIT bid, but NIT bids are not based on total wins, but who you beat.

3 seasons ago---

so you would have fired him after a 22 win season, making the NIT quarterfinals, having the A10 POY and ROY, finished 4th in the A10, in a season where the back up center had basically a heart attack on the floor and missed the season and the school (led by the current Commissioner of the Sun Belt Conference) wouldn't admit a college grad to our "night school"( who has a gentle reminder then started for a team that was a whisker away from the Final 4), forcing us to play w/ a short handed roster all year?
 
The truth of the matter is that athletics is not a priority of the school. We as fans just need to accept it. Therefore - they do not wish to spend when needed - and especially when you need to buyout a coach. Maybe in the CAA days - you could let a coaches contract run out, but once we stepped up to the A10 - we stepped up to high level mid-major, which over the years has become increasingly competitive and lucrative (just look at the salaries of the coaches in the league, and the money a school like VCU brings in by making the tourney each year). I can't remember the last coach or if UR has ever "fired" a coach. Even Latrell Scott in football was allowed to resign because of his DWI. Rocco in football left on his terms because he saw the writing on the wall - this is as far as I can take it. Wainwright pushed the envelope on recruiting to try and get those top 100 recruits we so badly want - and they were denied, so he left.
Sure - we spend money on a football stadium, basketball practice facility, added Lacrosse, and stepped up the salary for our men's bball coach. But in reality - we do these (in my opinion) as a last resort. Football stadium was a few years in the making; practice facility was announced years ago, then put on hold, and then finally completed; lacrosse was added but we took away soccer and track; and we paid Mooney 1 million because Shaka got 1 million down the road.
If the school truly cared about athletics and wanted it to be a top priority of the University - they would have paid the buyout last year. But instead - they will give him 2 more years, hope he turns it around - if he does - they look like geniuses for sticking with him. If he doesn't - they will let his contract just run out and this will hurt the program for years to come.
UR's new slogan should be - lets just be good, not great.

I guess this is what happens when we have 5 days to kill between games. We're 3-0, and even the most ardent haters have to admit that Sherod and Francis have overshot your expectations.
Friday can't get here fast enough.
 
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Maybe we want to retire the Mooney coaching status discussion for about a week. I tend to perseverate on topics too. Wife says that often. Had to look up the word, she got lot better grades at UR than I. We're 3-0 and should be 4-0 heading into a huge opportunity in Brooklyn that we haven't had in quite a long time with our OOC results. I'm excited about that. Winnable games too with a good team and "best class ever". The future is NOW, the best class ever has to be now because there is no best class ever without a NCAA this year. Let's take care of business vs McNeese and then really make a statement up in Brooklyn. Then we can talk about how the OOC schedule is too weak.
 
I guess this is what happens when we have 5 days to kill between games. We're 3-0, and even the most ardent haters have to admit that Sherod and Francis have overshot your expectations.
Friday can't get here fast enough.
Sherod has exceeded my expectation so far. Francis is right where I expected, maybe a little better than expected. But I am still waiting to we play some real competition. But for now - they should feast on these lower teams and get UR to 4-0.
Was waiting to say this until after Friday - but based on our schedule so far, and how our offense is clicking - I think we finish the OOC at
10-2. We will be in position entering the A10 for an NCAA bid.
 
Sherod has exceeded my expectation so far. Francis is right where I expected, maybe a little better than expected. But I am still waiting to we play some real competition. But for now - they should feast on these lower teams and get UR to 4-0.
Was waiting to say this until after Friday - but based on our schedule so far, and how our offense is clicking - I think we finish the OOC at
10-2. We will be in position entering the A10 for an NCAA bid.
Are you missing the Auburn or New Mexico game?
 
The truth of the matter is that athletics is not a priority of the school. We as fans just need to accept it.

No, we don't. I refuse to accept this mediocre, lack of accountability, lack of vision regime that is currently in place and so do many others. As an alumni, The University of Richmond has always stood to me for excellence in both academics and athletics. It pains me greatly that we have a current regime/vision that accepts less than that for our athletics.
 
lol. just saying what I think will happen. not necessarily what I want to happen.

I think Hardt believes Mooney has turned it around. the roster looks good. we're junior heavy. we're 3-0. if the season falls apart you can blow it up. but if we didn't fire Mooney already, then why would we fire him if he wins 18+ games this year? so I think he stays.

yes, we could set Mooney up to fail by sending him into recruiting season for a 5 man class with one year left on his contract. that could really screw us up for a while though. tough to recover from a weak 5 man class.
Also tough to recover from several weak 3 man classes.
 
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3 seasons ago---

so you would have fired him after a 22 win season, making the NIT quarterfinals, having the A10 POY and ROY, finished 4th in the A10, in a season where the back up center had basically a heart attack on the floor and missed the season and the school (led by the current Commissioner of the Sun Belt Conference) wouldn't admit a college grad to our "night school"( who has a gentle reminder then started for a team that was a whisker away from the Final 4), forcing us to play w/ a short handed roster all year?

I get my years of disappointment confused sometime. There's been so many. So, maybe it first was after the big senior class of TA, DT, and TD that we had been building too, went out and played sub. 500 ball on an NCAA or bust year.

But this year is a good one as well. Mooney had one of our all time best players ever at UR, and another senior and all A-10 player in SDJ, the ROY in Buck, and yet the best Mooney could manage was a 6 seed in the NIT tournament.

All that talent, particularly two stud senior players and Mooney couldn't even get us close to sniffing an NCAA bid.
 
All that talent, particularly two stud senior players and Mooney couldn't even get us close to sniffing an NCAA bid.
some strong top end talent that year. no depth. lost Grant early. bench consisted of JJ, Wood, Kwesi and Kirby. if we had this year's bench we'd have won more than 22.
 
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some strong top end talent that year. no depth. lost Grant early. bench consisted of JJ, Wood, Kwesi and Kirby. if we had this year's bench we'd have won more than 22.

Richmond Basketball: Lot of IF's
 
Richmond Basketball: Lot of IF's
I thought 97 implied it was in-game coaching that caused us to only win 22 games that year. I'm saying it was recruiting ... and an unfortunate situation with Grant. recruiting is obviously on Mooney. I'm not disputing that. I don't believe better coaching would have accomplished much more with that bench.

all in all it was a good year but no glory. I think that was the year we thought we had Malcolm Bernard. that one piece would have changed everything, in my opinion. still can't understand that decision.
 
I thought 97 implied it was in-game coaching that caused us to only win 22 games that year. I'm saying it was recruiting ... and an unfortunate situation with Grant. recruiting is obviously on Mooney. I'm not disputing that. I don't believe better coaching would have accomplished much more with that bench.

all in all it was a good year but no glory. I think that was the year we thought we had Malcolm Bernard. that one piece would have changed everything, in my opinion. still can't understand that decision.
Bench is on Mooney but yes in this circumstance our administration really cut Mooney off at the knees with the Bernard situation.

Bringing in guys like Kweisi though is all on Mooney.
 
Kwesi was a terrific singer, student and representative of the school it seemed. But to bring in a guy who averaged 1.5 points as a supposed defensive stopper is really unfathomable. He couldn't guard anyone, bigs, guards, wings, statues - whatever. I bet Oddo could drop 30 on him with a sprained ankle.

The Bernard situation is a big screw up, especially the totally botched communication somewhere in the process - as I heard he was on campus for a while, and then ruled ineligible. This is where Mooney really should have said to PQ: PQ, tell the admin to let him in or I won't meet you at the Tavern for a beer. Really a walking cluster @#%.
 
I thought 97 implied it was in-game coaching that caused us to only win 22 games that year. I'm saying it was recruiting ... and an unfortunate situation with Grant. recruiting is obviously on Mooney. I'm not disputing that. I don't believe better coaching would have accomplished much more with that bench.

all in all it was a good year but no glory. I think that was the year we thought we had Malcolm Bernard. that one piece would have changed everything, in my opinion. still can't understand that decision.
The issue with this is that the best coaches get more out of their players. I’m willing to bet a top coach gets that squad to the NCAA Tourney.
 
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The issue with this is that the best coaches get more out of their players. I’m willing to bet a top coach gets that squad to the NCAA Tourney.
Exactly Nathan, exactly. Mooney can't recruit depth, we know that, other than his first 3 years. But, Tarrant and JB had some pretty damn suspect benches the years they went dancing at UR. Mooney is not a + coach in the NCAA game. He's just not, yet our weak AD's just keep keeping on.
 
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