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A copyrighted logo must be followed by the decorators of any college merchandise. The only way to get around it is if the school copyrights another logo, allowing the decorator to do another version.Maybe we will be able to get some decent apparel at the bookstore for once. Maybe they won’t have to cram a swoosh next to a spider next to a UR on everything. And for the person who always says “well we are a small school and there just isn’t a market for it,” I ask you to look at other schools our size and smaller and look at their offerings and designs. Whoever chooses our stuff is stuck in the 80s.
Also, why can’t we change the spider so we don’t have to have UR next to it? Spyder doesn’t have the rights to all pictures of spiders. Have it leaning the opposite way. Change it up. I love the spider logo, but hate it whenever we have to put UR next to it
As someone who actually operated a licensed products business, all I can tell you is that small market licensors don’t generate a lot of demand and if you’re a licensee you’re generally hampered by minimum volume commitments with your manufacturers. So can you get more creative stuff? Sure, but you have to find a licensee who is willing to make small lots for you. They exist but not in droves.Maybe we will be able to get some decent apparel at the bookstore for once. Maybe they won’t have to cram a swoosh next to a spider next to a UR on everything. And for the person who always says “well we are a small school and there just isn’t a market for it,” I ask you to look at other schools our size and smaller and look at their offerings and designs. Whoever chooses our stuff is stuck in the 80s.
Also, why can’t we change the spider so we don’t have to have UR next to it? Spyder doesn’t have the rights to all pictures of spiders. Have it leaning the opposite way. Change it up. I love the spider logo, but hate it whenever we have to put UR next to it
I would take the variety offered by Bucknell over ours.As someone who actually operated a licensed products business, all I can tell you is that small market licensors don’t generate a lot of demand and if you’re a licensee you’re generally hampered by minimum volume commitments with your manufacturers. So can you get more creative stuff? Sure, but you have to find a licensee who is willing to make small lots for you. They exist but not in droves.
None of that changes what I believe your complaint is though. “Design” is driven by two things, the products a licensee will make and the service marks the licensor makes available to you. Most licensees have a templated set of products they make and just vary the design based on the available service marks the licensor provides. UR actually has a reasonably varied set of products given their market size, even if it doesn’t feel that way to you.
But why can’t we create a different logo with a different spider? As someone else said, I guarantee Cleveland would be able to do it. It just feels like we didn’t want to change our design so we just said fine and added a UR to everything instead of just creating a different spider.A copyrighted logo must be followed by the decorators of any college merchandise. The only way to get around it is if the school copyrights another logo, allowing the decorator to do another version.
We could, but that’s usually left up to the marketing department and licensor as to what will sell. As was said, we are a small market and have little choice.But why can’t we create a different logo with a different spider? As someone else said, I guarantee Cleveland would be able to do it. It just feels like we didn’t want to change our design so we just said fine and added a UR to everything instead of just creating a different spider.
Perfect. Same folks that do our press releases no doubt.RICHMOMD
So yet a third dimension to this equation you just stumbled across, many/most bookstores aren’t operated by the universities that own them. B&N does a good job sourcing vendors. I think UR is actually operated by the university iirc.I would take the variety offered by Bucknell over ours.
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They can, no doubt. They just have to design them then spend 5-10k a pop to file for service marks and wait 18 months to hopefully receive them.But why can’t we create a different logo with a different spider? As someone else said, I guarantee Cleveland would be able to do it. It just feels like we didn’t want to change our design so we just said fine and added a UR to everything instead of just creating a different spider.
I agree...if we can revise the deal. But a spider with a big “UR” next to it is ugly. I’d rather it just be a spider over the word “Richmond.”Personally I have zero interest in changing the Spider logo. Because I think it’s great.
If our sports teams can wear we should be able to buy it. My beef is I think we should try to revise the agreement w Spyder. Is it some airtight agreement in perpetuity? We have a good law school, we can presumably hire good lawyers. It was just a bad settlement imo.
As long as it is not a spider over the word RichMoM'dI agree...if we can revise the deal. But a spider with a big “UR” next to it is ugly. I’d rather it just be a spider over the word “Richmond.”
As someone who actually operated a licensed products business, all I can tell you is that small market licensors don’t generate a lot of demand and if you’re a licensee you’re generally hampered by minimum volume commitments with your manufacturers. So can you get more creative stuff? Sure, but you have to find a licensee who is willing to make small lots for you. They exist but not in droves.
None of that changes what I believe your complaint is though. “Design” is driven by two things, the products a licensee will make and the service marks the licensor makes available to you. Most licensees have a templated set of products they make and just vary the design based on the available service marks the licensor provides. UR actually has a reasonably varied set of products given their market size, even if it doesn’t feel that way to you.
That’s funny, because I will go and purchase from online stores that are selling Richmond shirts completely unaffiliated with the university. They just say “Richmond,” but they look so much better than what we have and I figure nobody really knows the difference.As someone whose previous industry has been destroyed by covid I started to learn how to vinyl cut and sublimate to pass time which turned into custom shirt making, patches, socks, stickers, christmas ornaments, football helmets etc. Enough to where its turned into a small side business and was turned off by the NCAA licensing that accompanies it. I have a ton of UR and other state school designs people say they love and wanted to buy that I have made for myself because while I love the logo (Even though its a tick anatomically) I cant stand some of the bland stuff they put it on. Unfortunately they are going to sit on the shelf because of the upfront registration fees that come with just getting your foot in the door unless I wanted to be an outlaw.
Do you have an email I could contact you at? I would LOVE to pick your brain on this industry as someone starting out in it and determing weather to invest in some more equipment.
Did you check it out, or just make an assumption?Perfect. Same folks that do our press releases no doubt.
Either he was joking about your misspelling or did you buy a shirt with a misspelling?Did you check it out, or just make an assumption?
Either he was joking about your misspelling or did you buy a shirt with a misspelling?
“Richmomd”
Thanks. Where can I find them?We could, but that’s usually left up to the marketing department and licensor as to what will sell. As was said, we are a small market and have little choice.
I just bought a great looking sweatshIrt from the NCAA Fans group, All it has on it is RICHMOMD arched over our Spider.
You might want to check out their selections
NCAA. Com ShopThanks. Where can I find them?
I found this one.NCAA. Com Shop
i hope I didn’t make any typos. LOL
I found this one.
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Couldnt find the one our marketing department corrected to say Richmomd. 😁
That’s what I got. But, I wear 2xlg.I like it it's a good one. But only 2XL. Is that thing such a hot seller that it's only left in 1 size? Doubt that's the reason. Alert me please when XL or L comes available.