Yes, but I would still show up to try to catch a dogachute.
Over / Under 9.5 wins
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I think there’s some kind of hot dog branding opportunity here. Mental note, call Ballpark Franks...
No matter how bad our league is this year, there is no way I see us getting 9 conference wins. Have you seen the teams we lost to?
Yes, but it’s fair to say the competition has gotten better and our margins of loss have grown smaller.
Over Thanksgiving my dad predicted 6 wins. I thought that was way too low, but now I'm not so sure.
Watching Monday Night Football I saw an advertisement for Cabell Childress Realty and Mooney was their spokesperson. I thought to myself, "not only is he looking to sell his house, he's pimping the realtor who's doing it for him!" He's gotta know the end is near.
Coach bought a new house several months ago and Cabell Childress, a UR alum, was his realtor. Coincidentally, Cabell, a great guy, was also my realtor; basketball aside, I recommend him.
Actually we beat VCU in the final, and the HUGE RPI drop moves them to first four out...
Looks like you are already in to the holiday booze. Enjoy.
Before yesterday's game, the Spiders needed to go 9-13 (.409) to get to 10 wins. Now we have to go 9-12 (.429). To get to five wins, we have to go 4-17 (.190). That would still be an improvement; our current % is .111.
Some perspective for anyone left betting the over on this thread: Duquesne -- the bottom seed in last year's A-10 tournament -- entered the tourney with 10 wins and a .323 winning percentage. After slow-starting the season 2-4 (.333), they entered A-10 conference play with a 7-6 record (.538) and then went 3-15 (.167) in conference to hit the 10-game plateau. We scored 101 against them when we played them. That was the game where Cline got the first program triple-double; he and ShawnDre' both scored 30+. (We also gave up 90 points.)
That was a laughably bad Duq team, and their record was significantly better than where we sit right now. Our best-case scenario for entering tournament play is 4-8 (.333), and I doubt anyone believes that's a possibility. Five of Duq's six non-conference losses were by single digits; two were one-possession losses, and they had one 34-point blow-out for an average non-conference loss margin of 9.8. Their message boarders probably consoled themselves "we're oh-so-close" until halfway into that miserable conference season. Our average margin of loss to date is 17. Our three single-digit losses (all by 6) are matched by three 27+ losses.
Sorry to be grim, but A-10 play is not going to help. A month from now, we'll be looking back on November and December as the comparatively happier part of this season.
But yeah, I'll keep going to the games. I love the sport, and living through this is what we talk about when we get back to winning. No one feels worse than the guys on the court, even if they don't know what to do about it. Smarter minds than me are trying to fix it, and they will one way or another because they don't like it and they know we don't like it, either. I see no point in piling on. Bad college basketball is better than leaving my seat empty in my book. If nothing else, it's a reminder that resilience brings better days ahead.
But I honestly think the over/under poll should be at about 4.5. And the smart money's still on under.
Some perspective for anyone left betting the over on this thread: Duquesne -- the bottom seed in last year's A-10 tournament -- entered the tourney with 10 wins and a .323 winning percentage. After slow-starting the season 2-4 (.333), they entered A-10 conference play with a 7-6 record (.538) and then went 3-15 (.167) in conference to hit the 10-game plateau. We scored 101 against them when we played them. That was the game where Cline got the first program triple-double; he and ShawnDre' both scored 30+. (We also gave up 90 points.)
That was a laughably bad Duq team, and their record was significantly better than where we sit right now. Our best-case scenario for entering tournament play is 4-8 (.333), and I doubt anyone believes that's a possibility. Five of Duq's six non-conference losses were by single digits; two were one-possession losses, and they had one 34-point blow-out for an average non-conference loss margin of 9.8. Their message boarders probably consoled themselves "we're oh-so-close" until halfway into that miserable conference season. Our average margin of loss to date is 17. Our three single-digit losses (all by 6) are matched by three 27+ losses.
Sorry to be grim, but A-10 play is not going to help. A month from now, we'll be looking back on November and December as the comparatively happier part of this season.
But yeah, I'll keep going to the games. I love the sport, and living through this is what we talk about when we get back to winning. No one feels worse than the guys on the court, even if they don't know what to do about it. Smarter minds than me are trying to fix it, and they will one way or another because they don't like it and they know we don't like it, either. I see no point in piling on. Bad college basketball is better than leaving my seat empty in my book. If nothing else, it's a reminder that resilience brings better days ahead.
But I honestly think the over/under poll should be at about 4.5. And the smart money's still on under.
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Comparing us to last years Duquesne, or even this years Duquesne, is a little off in my opinion. Our easiest OOC opponent so far this year is ranked 229th on Kenpom. 6 of Duquesne's 7 OOC wins last year came from opponents ranked 227 or worse, most were 300+ teams which are much worse than anyone we have faced. Our schedule isn't the hardest in the world but we have not had an easy schedule (Kenpom has it as a top 50 schedule difficulty wise, and the toughest schedule we have had since 04/05 in terms of average opponent strength). We are in an interesting scenario where our conference schedule is going to actually be a lot easier than our OOC schedule, which almost never happens. On the other hand, Duquesne has had a reputation of scheduling the easiest OOC in the country the past few years which is why they can get some wins OOC and still be horrible in conference. They have the 350th hardest OOC schedule this year, 345th last year.
I hope this doesn't come off as a defense for the team's performance, this is the worst Richmond team I have ever seen by far and it is unacceptable. I do think that the difficulty of our schedule has been downplayed by many on the board though. Kenpom has 10 of our 12 OOC opponents ranked 118th or better, while there are 8 teams in the A10 ranked 141st or worse. I think 10 wins is still a possibility, though it is not looking super likely.
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This is what 13 years of Mooney has done to us. Now we have people happy with 8 wins. Soon, we'll have people happy win any wins at all and the fact that he doesn't run a escort service out of the Robins Center office.
So maybe not "happy with" but "pleasantly surprised by".
I tend not to get too hopped up on Mountain Dew and self-righteousness, but there is something poignant here that expectations adjust as the season wears on. Had I caught myself pre-season thinking that 8 wins would make me happy or be an accomplishment, that would have been pretty disconcerting.
I'm on the over...
If not, then not just talent and coaching are against us, but luck as well.
Yes I was getting disgusted when BB was touting this game as such a huge game.22 years ago yes.
Sorry local, that was not meant as any kind of criticism of you. It was more of an observation that we've fallen pretty low when we are at a spot that 8 wins is somehow an achievement. Again, wasn't meant as a criticism.
No worries, didn't take it as criticism. Agreed things are in pretty sad shape to be believe 8 wins would reflect any kind of success.
After looking at the remaining schedule I see Richmond winning 8 games this year.
Wait, are you saying he is running an escort service out of the Robins Center? I saw Rob Jones with a beeper on him the other day. Probably a coincidence.
Of course they're not running an escort service. They wouldn't be able to recruit enough talent to make it last.
