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[UR80sfan]

This is always a fun subject to discuss, but most, it not all of people's responses is based on last season. Every year there are a few surprises of players that greatly improved from the previous year. As a result, outside of the starters, most of these forecasts are probably not accurate, which is a good thing, because it means some players are at a higher level than anticipated.

 

[SFspidur]

And there it is...Sherod tore his other ACL and is out for the season.

Sherod to Miss 2020-21 Season With Knee Injury - University of Richmond Athletics

UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND, Va. -- Spiders guard Nick Sherod will miss the 2020-21 season after tearing the ACL in his right knee, head coach Chris Mooney announ...

richmondspiders.com

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

@712_VT was right on this one.

Bummer. Sucks for Nick and the team.

 

[plydogg]

Well it’s Monday.... where’s your magic inside information 712?

You really felt the need to gloat huh? News is worse than any of us expected and now you’ve got egg on your face too

 

[Ferrum Spider]

Consider the source.

For once, that didn’t really age well.

 

[spider23]

I will consider the source, POS!!! Don't defend the POS source.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

I will consider the source, POS!!! Don't defend the POS source.

I feel like the young VT has matured and mellowed a bit.

The other VT, well.....

 

[712_VT]

I feel like the young VT has matured and mellowed a bit.

The other VT, well.....

Thank you for defending me, I would like to think I have matured a little bit. I feel horrible for nick and wish him the best going forward. Would love to see him come back for a 6th year but completely understand if he doesn’t want to.

 

[spider23]

From a strictly basketball perspective, I think this hurts us most in stretching/spreading the floor with one of the top 3 point shooters in the game, and clutch shooting at critical times. With other guys getting the attention and accolades, I don't know how many times the ball found Nick at a critical junction, and he knocked down a 22 footer like a layup. I don't know if we have someone to replace that.

On the other hand, we do have depth at the wing. Gustavson, Crabtree, and Burton, maybe even Dji this year. I would say Crabtree is the only one that has proven at the college level to be a shooter so far. If Burton has improved into the 35% area on 3's that will be a big help. When you are playing a very athletic Kentucky, or SLU, etc we will need to have that third shooter to deliver.

Wishing Nick well and full recovery.

 

[URSpider95]

Really difficult to replace Sherod. Obviously from a shooting perspective if Crabtree is ready (he shot 37% from 3pt and 80% from the foul line as a freshman at Tulane) he is the best candidate at the 3. I also think you will see Goose there as well. Cayo and Burton will split time at the 4 and prob some occasions where they are in at the same time. Grace and Wilson should get minutes as well.

I see 7 players getting double digit minutes and Grace and Wilson getting 5-10.

Sal and the other two freshman are next men up if there are more injuries.

 

[spider23]

New minutes guesstimation:

Player​	minutes​
Blake​	32​
Gilyard​	37​
Grant​	30​
Cayo​	26​
Burton​	26​
Crabtree​	14​
Wilson​	2​
Dji​	2​
Weir​	3​
Grace​	7​
Sal​	5​
Gustavson​	16​

 

[PhillySpider]

New minutes guesstimation:

Player​	minutes​
Blake​	32​
Gilyard​	37​
Grant​	30​
Cayo​	26​
Burton​	26​
Crabtree​	14​
Wilson​	2​
Dji​	2​
Weir​	3​
Grace​	7​
Sal​	5​
Gustavson​	16​

Looks pretty good to me. I am actually guessing a few (2-3) less minutes for Jacob and Cayo and would guess that one of weir or DJII ends up with basically zero. My extra 5-7 minutes ends up with either Gus or Crabtree as one of them emerges as the best option on the wing and pushed up around 20 minutes. Burton is the one here who could bust this prediction. If he is turns into the star I think he can be, he will command 32 or more minutes a night. First step to that for him is his outside shot. On this team, he has to shoot the 3 well to earn even the 26 minutes.

 

[PhillySpider]

By the way, the one on that list I worry about the most. . . .and now way more than before . . . is Crabtree. Some are assuming he a proven player and some have even said as much . . . but I am not so sure. That 14 minutes is close (20) to what he got at Tulane, but that was on one of the very worst (4-27) teams in the country. His HS offers don't scream that he's a player either. And Tulane was that bad despite having Caleb Daniels who is a VERY good player (now at Villanova where he is going to be a back-up this year and then start). Its very different being a middle minutes guy on a very bad team that apparently lacks players and being a middle minutes guy on a team that hopes to be Top 20 in the country. And he's been injured a lot since he's been here. Its not beyond comprehension that he's simply not able to help much this year.

Again, I don't have an opinion so much as to what he is or isn't as I have yet to see him play a single minute, but he is the one with the highest variance to me. If he turns out to be Sherod Jr., I'd guess he gets even more than 14 minutes, but if he turns out to be a poor man's Marshall Wood, he is going o struggle to find any minutes. Before Sherod, it honestly didn't much matter because we had plenty of ways to fill the 15 minutes a game, but now, I think we need a shooter and while we can fill the minutes elsewhere if need be, we don't have a lot of options to fill the role!

 

[spiderman]

I think without Nick we're going to see a more offensively aggressive Jacob Gilyard. last year he would "facilitate" a lot, only looking to push the envelop when needed. with he and Francis likely the only 2 perimeter threats, I think he may need to turn it up more on that end. and because of that, I think he might need a little more rest.

if I'm CM I'm asking Jacob to be as aggressive offensively as Blake. I think that'll wear him out a little so I'll watch him and if necessary cut his minutes to around 32.

 

[gcarter52]

This is going to be an effort by committee from everyone. Everyone needs to play within their lanes whether on the floor or on the bench.

I think without Nick we're going to see a more offensively aggressive Jacob Gilyard. last year he would "facilitate" a lot, only looking to push the envelop when needed. with he and Francis likely the only 2 perimeter threats, I think he may need to turn it up more on that end. and because of that, I think he might need a little more rest.

if I'm CM I'm asking Jacob to be as aggressive offensively as Blake. I think that'll wear him out a little so I'll watch him and if necessary cut his minutes to around 32.

 

[GKiller]

I still think people r sleeping on Goose minutes personally. I thought he was projected a little low even before Nick's injury. He avg 19.4 last year, inflated some by increase after Blake's injury, but now Nick and Wojcik r gone from guard depth. Goose has the best bball instincts on the team next to Gilyard. What he gives us defensively, in transition and way he moves the ball on O is underrated. If his 3 ball % stays low then minutes probably more on target, but I think last year was an anomaly. He's a Euro and has a solid stroke. With more consistent reps expected now without Nick I hope and think we'll see similar to his freshman %. Nobody on team can replace Nick shooting but key is either Goose or Burton knocking down the open ones at a respectable level.

 

[spiderman]

we're really small with Goose at the 3, but yes his minutes increase with Nick out..

 

[spider23]

Interesting arguments on Crabtree vs Goose. Agree Philly, no idea what to expect from Crabtree coming off injury and layoff. Just watching his tape, he appears to have some athleticism and has a nice stroke. But, so did Marshall Wood. But, I think with Nick out, this team could be in a bad spot against bigger more athletic teams that will force someone besides GIlly and Blake to beat us from outside. I am not seeing that guy right now other than Crabtree. Hopefully that is Burton. If so, great - and Crabtree would be more of a complimentary/situational player this year.
Goose will play, and I like his game, passing and defense. But, I am not seeing the stroke, even in the practice vids so far I see a line drive. I don't think he is our answer if other teams pack it in. If one out of those three can be that threat it will be huge.

 

[GKiller]

 

[spider23]

I saw that tweet as well. Would be big if Burton can become a 3pt threat........while maintaining his impact on the boards and defense. That is another bit of a concern - he seemed to foul at a pretty high rate last year, but maybe he figured could be as aggressive as he wanted if only playing 15-20 minutes per game.

 

[Eight Legger]

I don’t really want Burton shooting many threes unless he’s hitting 35% or better. His game is around the rim.

 

[spiderman]

I don’t really want Burton shooting many threes unless he’s hitting 35% or better. His game is around the rim.

I want him shooting 35% or better.
we already have Cayo and Golden around the rim. need shooting on the floor in addition to Francis and Gilyard.

 

[spider23]

EL, agree - BUT - I think outside shooting could be an issue with Sherod out. If Burton cannot be a 35% shooter, and Crabtree is either hurt or not really ready to contribute, this team goes from a stellar 3 point shooting team, to a team that becomes much more guardable.

If Burton can shoot 35% from 3 and Crabtree can play like I think/hope then we are in good shape offensively.

 

[spider23]

we already have Cayo and Golden around the rim. need shooting on the floor in addition to Francis and Gilyard.

This is my primary concern with this team now. Grant and Cayo are super around the basket - we really need another guy on the floor that can shoot the three - otherwise teams can load up more on Gilly and Francis. And Sherod wasn't just a good 3point shooter, he was elite - top 10 in the country.

 

[Spiderstew1962]

Mooney stated pretty clearly in a response to a question about replacing Sherrod that Burton would start at the 3. He also said Burton has a chance to be among the best Spider players ever. High praise indeed! Who spells him wasn’t clearly stated but he mentioned Dji getting minutes, not Goose or Crab, at least during that exchange.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

Mooney definitely mentioned Isiah Wilson would be vying for time. I cannot believe that Gus
would not be a major part of the rotation.

 

[SFspidur]

No Crabtree for the three games in Rupp.

 

[RichmondNative]

No Crabtree for the three games in Rupp.

Not a big surprise since we didn’t see any of him playing on short practice clips. Wonder when he will be able to play.

 

[spider23]

Yes, that is a little disappointing. He was cleared for basketball activity on July 19th. Especially down Sherod, was hoping he could be a stabilizer off the bench early in the season. Hopefully he can get healed up and provide some quality minutes this year.

 

[spiderman]

was going to be tough to find enough minutes for Goose. he'll back Burton now. nice to have this kind of depth.

 

[Spider2020]

was going to be tough to find enough minutes for Goose. he'll back Burton now. nice to have this kind of depth.

Based on the way Mooney usually handles minutes, I wouldn’t be surprised is Gus is ahead of Crabtree in line for minutes anyway. Crabtree hasn’t gotten to practice much or at all (as far as I know) and Gus has 2 years of play in the system under his belt. With that being said, there should be plenty of minutes for both of them

 

[kneepadmckinney]

I think it is a fool's errand for us to believe that Crabtree will be a productive player this year. He hasn't played organized ball in over 18 months, and is coming off surgery to BOTH hips. I'm sort of resigned that we won't know what he is until 2021-22.

 

[spider23]

Agree Kneepad, not looking good for Crabtree to get big minutes this year. As sman note, Gus will probably get the minutes, and Mooney is high on him as a defender and overall player. I do think he brings a lot to the table. BUT, I was really hoping that Crabtree could knock some three's down this year. Without Sherod, we go from a very very good 3pt shooting team to Not Sure. If practice reports carry on to the games, hopefully Burton can hit them. That would be huge. Otherwise, I think it gets really sketchy against the teams that are bigger and more athletic, ala SLU. And SLU adds a shooter.

 

[GKiller]

Goose will be our unsung hero this year

 

[PhillySpider]

I predict nothing unsung about it. He can play. If he shoots it even a little bit better he becomes a big part!

I see a shortened bench especially early. Gus getting 25-30 minutes ba cking up up all three guard/ wing spots and no other bench guys get 10. Starting 5, Gus and backup big are the only real minutes early on. Maybe Sal if Mooney wasn’t blowing smoke!

 

[GKiller]

I predict nothing unsung about it. He can play. If he shoots it even a little bit better he becomes a big part!

I see a shortened bench especially early. Gus getting 25-30 minutes ba cking up up all three guard/ wing spots and no other bench guys get 10. Starting 5, Gus and backup big are the only real minutes early on. Maybe Sal if Mooney wasn’t blowing smoke!

Agree, I said that primarily bc he does not get enough credit & respect on here imo. Thus unsung to many. I think he has the best bball instincts on the team, tho Gilly certainly has great instincts too. Goose can play 1-3 on O and on D which is invaluable. Does so much that doesn't show up on box score. The main concern is the 3 ball. If improved watch out. I do think he can shoot it, he just got off to a slow start last year & this year will get more reps and rhythm...we'll see.

 

[spider23]

It is interesting that Gus does not get much mention from Mooney - though maybe I just have not noticed? Mooney has gone out of his way to hype Burton. And he has been pumping Wilson and his defensive ability, from article this morning:
"He is incredibly fast. Great defensive instincts. Very competitive. Really willing to be physical,” said Mooney.

Not much about Gus, but am guessing just due to Gus being more of a known quantity at this time.

 

[Eight Legger]

Wilson is a point guard, right? Or can he play the 2 also? Not to get ahead of things, but I wonder what the plan will be next year with him and Nelson in the mix if they are both 1s.

 

[VT4700]

Wilson is a point guard, right? Or can he play the 2 also? Not to get ahead of things, but I wonder what the plan will be next year with him and Nelson in the mix if they are both 1s.

If they can shoot, that's better than having a 1 and a 2.

 

[spider23]

What I am wondering is - it seems Gus is top defensive replacement for Gilly or Francis. It sounds like Mooney may use WIlson some in that role . It does seem like Gus will be they primary replacement for Burton.