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Justyn Mutts - 2017 Offer

There are several differences I know, but when I watch that video I see a lot of similarities to Terry Allen.
 
There are several differences I know, but when I watch that video I see a lot of similarities to Terry Allen.
go, appreciate you opinion, bit Terry was a scorer, Justyn is not. Justyn can take it to the hoop, but his strengths are defense and rebounding. If forced to make a comparison, he is more like Darius Garrett, a defensive presence who can dominate a game. Justyn seems like the perfect complement to our bevy of scorers. In fact, he is so athletic that under Mooney's tutelage I could see him making to the next level. OSC
 
Ulla, I get the Garrett comparison because of the blocks, but I never saw Garrett do any of the things we see Mutts doing offensively other than the dunks. his ball handing skills and ability to drive do remind me of TA. maybe Mutts is the best case combination of the two.
 
Ulla, I get the Garrett comparison because of the blocks, but I never saw Garrett do any of the things we see Mutts doing offensively other than the dunks. his ball handing skills and ability to drive do remind me of TA. maybe Mutts is the best case combination of the two.
spiderman, you are spot on. However, check out this video of Justyn playing against his Dad; don't think he makes a single outside shot. In other interviews, he says that he is not a scorer. Terry was one of the top scorers in Texas his junior and senior years in high school, and was a high scorer and could make three's at UR. So, IMHO, save for the ball handling really more like Darius, which is what we desparately need. OSC

 
To me Garrett really lacked in ball handling and finishing around the basket, something TA was very good at and something that appears to be one of Mutts' strengths. Taking the ball from about foul line distance, taking on his man one on one, driving and finishing - Terry was so good at that and I see a lot of that in Mutts.
 
ok, Justyn's outside shooting (which we haven't seen at all in other videos) is frightening in that one! (so is his dad's!). but with his defense and handle, if he could really shoot it we wouldn't have a shot here. so it's a flaw we'll have to live with. hopefully it can be improved, but that seems to rarely happen. shooters are shooters. others are not.
Justyn can be out inside guy with Golden at the high post.
 
ok, Justyn's outside shooting (which we haven't seen at all in other videos) is frightening in that one! (so is his dad's!). but with his defense and handle, if he could really shoot it we wouldn't have a shot here. so it's a flaw we'll have to live with. hopefully it can be improved, but that seems to rarely happen. shooters are shooters. others are not.
Justyn can be out inside guy with Golden at the high post.
Absolutely, spiderman!!!! That is the point. We have plenty of shooters (Nick, Monte, Grant, Julius, Khwan, next year Marquis, Bryce S.); Justyn with his defense, rebounding, and dare I say intimidation inside, is exactly what we have been missing. Come on Justyn!!! OSC
 
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go, appreciate you opinion, bit Terry was a scorer, Justyn is not. Justyn can take it to the hoop, but his strengths are defense and rebounding. If forced to make a comparison, he is more like Darius Garrett, a defensive presence who can dominate a game. Justyn seems like the perfect complement to our bevy of scorers. In fact, he is so athletic that under Mooney's tutelage I could see him making to the next level. OSC
Granted he was fronting his out of shape dad, but I liked the way he "front blocked" and didn't try to block from behind like DT did. Also he didn't try to block the ball into the stands, he tipped it and maintained control. That's how real shot blockers do it. No one better than Ralph Sampson at that. Hope he at least works on his free throws.
 
Granted he was fronting his out of shape dad, but I liked the way he "front blocked" and didn't try to block from behind like DT did. Also he didn't try to block the ball into the stands, he tipped it and maintained control. That's how real shot blockers do it. No one better than Ralph Sampson at that. Hope he at least works on his free throws.
I think Bill Russell disagrees with the bolded statement.
 
yeah, Russell and Chamberlain came to mind instantly, from the days before they kept those stats! did you mean just in college, K???
Ralph's ranked #142 all time in shot blocks in the NBA, by the way, behind legendary rim protectors Larry Bird, Oliver Miller and Dwayne Wade! but to K's point ... he kept them all in bounds.
 
I think Bill Russell disagrees with the bolded statement.
Referring to Ralph's college career. Hell I used to see Ralph just catch shots. Have to admit Russell and Chamberlain were before my time. Lol
 
A very long, diverse and somewhat strange list of offers. Given the early decision on High Point makes me wonder how many of the higher level offers had contingencies?
 
? I assure you we didn't have him in last weekend with Marquis and JP on a conditional offer. he was offered and wanted. we lost. it happens.
 
Yikes. Can't remember us losing someone we really wanted to a lower lever program than this. Now we just have to get Whyte instead.
 
not comparing programs of course, but have any of you guys been to HPU recently? holy crap! only school I've been to that's been more impressive to me than UR. it's incredible. the reputation isn't there yet, but I'd bet it will be.
spiderman, you nailed it! My former postdoc currently on the faculty there loves it. OSC
 
Cue the posters who immediately start questioning smarts, desire, ability, attitude, father involvement, etc.
 
Mutts said, "The academics at High Point are great and when I visited I fell in love with the place,” he told MADEHoops. “Everything about the school is great including the teachers and academic advisors. I didn’t see any reason why High Point wouldn’t be the school for me.”

Don't know why he failed to mention the pulchritude of the coeds? OSC
 
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? I assure you we didn't have him in last weekend with Marquis and JP on a conditional offer. he was offered and wanted. we lost. it happens.

I struggle with the "it happens" part of losing a recruiting battle to a Big South school but agree with the rest of what you said.
 
Whether you like it or not HPU is a school that the President has turned into a thriving little city that is now surrounded by iron fencing with security. Everything has
been updated and he treats get togethers, like a major corporate party. In fact there are several restaurants on campus. They have bought up everything from a shopping mall to whole city blocks, clearing out all and putting up student housing to classrooms. The attraction is not the athletic program but all the modern attractions and upgrades.They are no longer a commuter college, but a first class university wanting to be on the cutting edge. Believe me when a top notch recruit comes to HPU, they are wined and dined, big time.
 
From some of the photos I have seen of the High Point campus, it appears they even have a handful of trees visible among all the concrete and asphalt!

Let's face it, this is not much different than losing a recruit to Longwood. I don't fault the kid for making whatever decision was best for him, though. We are in on a ton of other good players, but we need to get two or three of them.
 
congrats to high point, whatever they did when he visited there, worked. that is what recruiting is about and they did it and we should not be knocking them. heck, maybe he reads our message board during the season and that was it for him.
 
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It's odd on both an academic reputation level and as it relates to basketball. I don't think either is close. We may not have been able to offer him a guarantee on early playing time. That could be a differentiator for them. Oh well.
 
Extremely disappointed that we lost to high point. Say what you will about what they've done to campus (not much compares to ours) and how they wine and dine, but geez. This is a blow in my opinion. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise, but I can't stand losing out on a recruit to an inferior basketball team.
 
HPU is not UR academically or basketball wise. what they're selling is that it will be. and if you've been there, it's believable.
I said before, while we were after two I think we really need one of these PF types. JP is the better all around talent. Mutts is clearly a defensive stud, but we do like all of our guys to be outside threats and he's clearly not a shooter. so I wanted him, but can live with it if get JP.
or Whyte, Moore, Johnson, etc...
 
HPU is not UR academically or basketball wise. what they're selling is that it will be. and if you've been there, it's believable.
I said before, while we were after two I think we really need one of these PF types. JP is the better all around talent. Mutts is clearly a defensive stud, but we do like all of our guys to be outside threats and he's clearly not a shooter. so I wanted him, but can live with it if get JP.
or Whyte, Moore, Johnson, etc...
spiderman, agree totally. My personal preference would be to get JP, Walter, or Paul Atkinson, then perhaps a highly skilled, lightning fast guard like Jacob Gilyard. Save the remaining schollie for Bryce Golden should he choose to be a Spider. OSC
 
yes, I forgot Atkinson.
Gilyard looks good enough to make room for. weird that we're even looking at guards, but a true PG like him does make sense.
 
One final thought on this one: Mutts did exactly what we want our recruits to do--choose a school based on what he believes is the best fit, regardless of conference affiliation. He did not choose the school in the "highest" conference, he went where he felt fit him best. This is exactly what we wanted Wesson, Ford, White, Henderson, etc. to do, no? This is our pitch to recruits that have high-major offers, is it not? If so, I don't think we should be (as a message board community) playing the other side of the coin when a recruit chooses High Point over us.
 
I was never all that impressed with Mutts. He seemed pretty one dimensional to me and his final list of serious contenders bore out that he is probably more of a small mid major player than someone who is going to take us over the proverbial hump in the A-10.

I want to see how this class fills out and sure hope we don't have dumpster dive like we have in past years because we keep get turned down by our first, second and third options, but Mutts is not some program changer.

I don't think Mutts was our first option for one of our ships, probably a second, third type choice, which might be why he ended up at High Point.
 
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