did not say nor insinuate that i was comparing UR to unc in any way, just silly. just curious what programs at other schools endure with fans when they under perform and i would suggest if you annually have more than 5 greasy mac AAs, you should be doing better. though a 1, does wisconsin have any big macs? don't know the answer to that but they may not. they do have a big team, a tough team, a physical team and a well coached team. unc does not rebuild, they should have no "down" years, whatever definition one would apply to "down", all relative.