I disagree. Finishing last in 3 pointers allowed, May not cause a recalibration…
Jonathan Beagle - Albany Transfer - Commit
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I hope it would. If we are last in 3 pointers allowed we are giving up a boat load of 3s. Think you meant first.
Mooney will just alter Beagle’s effectiveness and make him a system guy instead.
So I think you’re agreeing with me without stating it? Beagle seems statistically to be an effective rebounder, particularly on OR. We don’t know that he’s a quick twitch guy, nor do we know he’s not. Likely he’s a positional rebounder. So are we going to make him play an in the circle pivot where by your logic he can’t really go after rebounds? That’s a philosophy issue, and has little to do with if we have guys who rebound well.
I’m not sure I’d pin it on King as they are totally different players, but I think CM can show the success of our recent transfers getting not just good playing time but also having success. That I expect goes a long way with anyone trying to transfer, particularly if they’ve demonstrated they can play.
My question relates to King’s residency in Albany and Beagle playing in Albany.
For a while we were very unlucky with big man transfers. Since TJ Cline
we have turned the corner.
we have turned the corner.
Beagle realized he could no longer pretend to be a Great Dane.
assuming Beagle just plays the 5 and not at all with Walz, I believe Mooney will use him like he's used every 5.
so he'll start the set up top.
but like Walz (and Quinn), he will often eventually get to the block.
when he does I assume he'll offensively rebound more like Walz than Quinn, and probably more than Walz too. because grabbing 9.5 rpg isn't just a scheme thing. that's a rebounder.
His rebound average would have put him in top 33, and top rebounding average in A10 this past year, guessing lack of games he was not eligible for this list:
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Just seeing this. Great needed positional pickup that stats say he's a player. As stated agressive rebounder that doesn't appear to be a great assist big, but maybe time to lessen that as focus on the offense?
Don't know if more big men than usual in this year's portal, but if recalling correctly P6 were quick to grab the bigs. Good job Mooney and Co.
Don't know if more big men than usual in this year's portal, but if recalling correctly P6 were quick to grab the bigs. Good job Mooney and Co.
The inside scoop on this guy is that he is a terrific pickup. It is very hard to get quality bigs in the transfer portal. He has previously had interest from some big time programs and we are adding him despite having very high opinions of Walz and Soulis. I would not be surprised to see multiple bigs on the floor at a time, but this depends on who else we pick up.
In my opinion, this guy has potential to make one of the all conference teams.
In my opinion, this guy has potential to make one of the all conference teams.
A vast majority of players in the transfer portal are making their decision based on multiple criteria. The U of R NIL collective is one of the best in the A-10 and getting better each day. With that said, we are not going to be able to outbid major programs in the power conferences. The amount of NIL money we pay to each player is confidential. Some of the other things we could offer include:
1. A center positions that is involved in most offensive plays. This is a big deal to many players.
2. Culture of the basketball program. As mentioned in previous post, Albany’s basketball program suspended their coach for a game based on mistreating a player. Our basketball team culture is completely different and it helps that our 3 previous centers were all successful and happy to assist in the recruiting process.
3. The quality of education and the beautiful campus can be strong selling points to some players, although there are others that prefer an urban environment, which would not be a good fit with our university.
4. Longevity and continuity of the head coach. Players want to play for the coach that recruited them and hopefully continues to be with the program after the graduate. One of the things you might not know is how involved the coaching staff is after the player's college playing career is over. The staff stays involved in their careers in everything from helping to pick an agent and get into tournaments that will help show their talents to scouts, along with giving career advice and letting them use the basketball facilities over the summer.
that was enough 5 years ago. it's all still a factor. but NIL is really important.
picture being a kid in the portal. literally every school calling you and inviting you to visit is telling you everything you want to hear. you're a priority. we want you. we need you. you'll have a big role here.
then you leave and the next kid shows up and hears the same pitch. it's all just words. it's coaches doing their job to try to fill out the best roster they can get.
the NIL offer is a comparable way for a recruit to feel how much a school really wants him. and kids talk. they know how much is being offered to other kids. so if a school can't put together much of a package, the kid will feel the school doesn't value them as much.
just like if you're coming out of school and Bank A offer you a $80k salary and Bank B offers you $100k, you're going to feel more valued by Bank B.
picture being a kid in the portal. literally every school calling you and inviting you to visit is telling you everything you want to hear. you're a priority. we want you. we need you. you'll have a big role here.
then you leave and the next kid shows up and hears the same pitch. it's all just words. it's coaches doing their job to try to fill out the best roster they can get.
the NIL offer is a comparable way for a recruit to feel how much a school really wants him. and kids talk. they know how much is being offered to other kids. so if a school can't put together much of a package, the kid will feel the school doesn't value them as much.
just like if you're coming out of school and Bank A offer you a $80k salary and Bank B offers you $100k, you're going to feel more valued by Bank B.
I get the point tho. If Bank B churns through employees and you'll be set adrift in a year or two, that extra 20k may not seem as valuable as the idea of being a contributor for 2-3 years at a place with the same coaches, system and support in place, which you're familiar with and vice versa. I think it is a balance. Unlike most of us on this board who likely view money with an eye toward family/retirement, not sure that's how 19-22 year olds are viewing it. That kind of money at that age would have basically seemed like Monopoly money to me.
true. the extra $20k shouldn't matter if you KNOW bank A is a better situation. but there's really no way to be certain that you'll be happier or more successful at the school with the lower NIL either.
we want kids to pass on high majors to have a better career here. but I'm sure schools from lower conferences than the A10 are saying the same thing. why go to UR and be a piece when you can star here.
we want kids to pass on high majors to have a better career here. but I'm sure schools from lower conferences than the A10 are saying the same thing. why go to UR and be a piece when you can star here.
King and Beagle have known each other...occasionally worked out together when Jordan returned home in the offseason.
Some good quotes from Beagle about his rebounding, his "late-bloomer" development, and his awareness of the success we've had with bigs that drew him to UR. Planning to arrive on campus in mid-May.
richmond.com
Some good quotes from Beagle about his rebounding, his "late-bloomer" development, and his awareness of the success we've had with bigs that drew him to UR. Planning to arrive on campus in mid-May.
Jordan King gave UR endorsement; Albany's Jonathan Beagle listened, followed
Incoming Spider Jonathan Beagle's rebounding knack is rooted in his belief that to succeed in that area, a player needs to “take it personally."
Nice Collegian piece with quotes from Beagle and Mooney. Sounds like we'd been touch a bit when he was in the portal last year before he decided to return to Albany.
www.thecollegianur.com
Portal Pulse: Jonathan Beagle
The University of Richmond men’s basketball team recently added Jonathan Beagle to its roster. Beagle, who just finished his sophomore season at the University at Albany, announced his commitment to UR on April 7.
www.thecollegianur.com
sounds like Mooney plans on a big lineup next season. right now we kind of have to, pending more portal activity, unless a freshman is ready or if we play Noyes at big forward.
not surprising but Beagle talks of the connection our team has. we know that's a big part of why (for the most part) we've kept together in this crazy portal world. but from the quotes I get the feeling he didn't have that at Albany.
not surprising but Beagle talks of the connection our team has. we know that's a big part of why (for the most part) we've kept together in this crazy portal world. but from the quotes I get the feeling he didn't have that at Albany.
Hometown interview with Beagle...
poststar.com
Hudson Falls native Jonathan Beagle has new landing spot
Jonathan Beagle is headed in a new direction for his junior season.
Hey, we can't have any of that kind of talk around here!Hometown interview with Beagle...
Hudson Falls native Jonathan Beagle has new landing spot
Jonathan Beagle is headed in a new direction for his junior season.
Jordan King still winning for us!
Good stuff. For all the stuff I have banged on Mooney for over the years, the longevity and family culture is really paying off in this portal era. For all the guys looking at the $NIL as number one factor, I think there are quite a few like Beagle where the fit and feel - coming of probably not great situation - is working in our favor. Great to see King putting in a good word.
