JMU Game
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Hanca, the coaches put the kids in position to make some game changing plays. We just need to be more consistent and execute. Against top tier CAA teams, you have to make plays when they are available. We didn’t do that today.
“Uh uh, I don’t know what happened. They were really really good. Maybe we need to coach better....”
Of course not! It’s your and my fault for not cheering loud enough. We suck.
Just back from the game. This time the coaching wasn't the problem. The three-step game was a good idea to avoid the JMU pass rush and it worked -- a lot. The game plan was sound and the Spiders moved the ball. The problem was execution and consistency plus the defense faded in big moments. This one is on the players particularly Mancuso and a host of butterfingers receivers and a punter. That said, JMU is just better in every phase of the game. UR has to decide if mediocrity is good enough. Like Mooney, Russ is a .500 coach in his league of play. If that works for the school, great. If not, I'd be looking at places like Nova and JMU for good assistants who can move up.
Pretty much expected to get killed, so I guess it's just semantics to discuss the specific ways in which it happened. But I would have liked to see us score on that first drive, just for kicks.
If you knew the history of us being an FCS level program you wouldn’t say that.
Chuck Boone practically begged the NCAA not to put us in the then D-1 AA level,
but it was dictated because of our size and our attendance at games.
Check it out.
Sorry dude...rocco screwed us as he left town and poisoned his players he left....rocco did a lot of great things for our fine University but he burned the fields as he left town..cant deny that.
I keep harping on this but the next step for our offense is to improve our running game. We moved the ball yesterday but couldn’t punch it in once we got close. That’s where a power, interior run game really shows out. Not just the run itself but the legit threat of the run leads to wide open TE’s off play action. I thought coming into the season that our OL would be a strength but I haven’t seen us consistently win up front in the interior. And please, can we get a bigger, durable rb to anchor the offense? It’s great to sprinkle in the quick scat backs but we don’t have any consistent production back there.
And the result of that is we won a national championship. I wasn’t real happy about the move to AA, but it was the right move
Well aware of the Tangerine Bowl win and the sad legacy of the desire of the larger schools to have more money for themselves. Can't change history but do not understand why Frank Jones was not allowed to serve as both AD and head football coach.
It was a move forced upon us. There was no choice. So when that happens the best option is to do the best with where you find yourself.
the two grad transfer WRs have been great for us this year. Yesterday, they cost of 18 points. It happens. We had to play a perfect game and fumbling while scoring, fumbling a KO return and dropping a pass going into the end zone didn't help.
Well, since you asked twice, I think you are calling me out.
What we've got here.....is a failure to make winning plays. It is the same thing that has plagued our basketball program for 8 years (hopefully 2 OT wins indicate our upperclassmen are learning how to win). Dropped TD passes, dropped interceptions, overthrows, one-read QBs and turnovers. Oy, the turnovers. We have too many lapses in ball security and concentration.
I don't think we would have won yesterday regardless, but that infamous 3-play sequence was a 17 point swing in the first quarter. You can't do that against the #2 team in the country.
We had them stuffed in the backfield on 4th down, and didn't make the tackle. They scored a TD on the next few plays.
On a later TD on 3rd down, Chris called out the receiver they were going to target before the play (Tony Romo style). We rushed 3, dropped 8, and he was still wide open for an easy TD. How does he get that open with 8 guys in coverage?
One player in particular looked like he was mentally checked out all game. Several costly errors and even a lack of effort at times. Inexcusable.
Everyone remembers the late collapse against Yale. We had several chances to close that game out prior to that, though, and we dropped them all.
We couldn't get up two scores on Villanova - including a red zone turnover - and that ultimately cost us another winnable game.
I'm not convinced Mancuso (or English) is the answer. Maybe Walker gets to play next Saturday. I'm sure we'll dress everyone.
I've not been a fan of Durden's offense since Game 1 against Sam Houston. There have been flashes of greatness.
Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the head coach. I think he has more time than most. We certainly don't fire coaches quickly.
He has some things in his favor. He's 15-18. Reid started 15-17-1, and he was here a while. Heck, Marshall started 4-29.
He's undefeated against W&M. That may not matter to many here, but I know it's important on campus and in that locker room.
The turnovers have absolutely killed us. We are something like 9-1 when we win the turnover battle. That means we have lost (or tied) in TO ratio 23 times in 33 games! That is almost impossible to overcome.
Well said Broccoli. We have looked really good at times but have left so much on the table by not making winning plays. I think we all should look at wins against Albany, Maine, Stony Brook and Delaware as a positive. On the other hand we laid an egg at Fordham, gave away a home game against Yale when we were up 13 in the fourth and had a first down at their twelve yard line and got no points and had several chances against Villanova late in the second and early in the third quarter to go up two scores. Add in your QB being suspended and not playing the first half in your first conference home game. This year has been a real emotional roller coaster for all. Hoping we come out Saturday and end this year on a positive note with the Capital Cup.
Really not calling you out I’m torn with Huesman. I honestly don’t know if he’s the right guy or not: wanted another opinion. Yes I remember the Marshall years We stuck with him way to long. Your analysis is good but the question still remains is Huesman the right guy or not. Next year may tell. Teams performance is ultimately on the coach(s)Well, since you asked twice, I think you are calling me out.
What we've got here.....is a failure to make winning plays. It is the same thing that has plagued our basketball program for 8 years (hopefully 2 OT wins indicate our upperclassmen are learning how to win). Dropped TD passes, dropped interceptions, overthrows, one-read QBs and turnovers. Oy, the turnovers. We have too many lapses in ball security and concentration.
I don't think we would have won yesterday regardless, but that infamous 3-play sequence was a 17 point swing in the first quarter. You can't do that against the #2 team in the country.
We had them stuffed in the backfield on 4th down, and didn't make the tackle. They scored a TD on the next few plays.
On a later TD on 3rd down, Chris called out the receiver they were going to target before the play (Tony Romo style). We rushed 3, dropped 8, and he was still wide open for an easy TD. How does he get that open with 8 guys in coverage?
One player in particular looked like he was mentally checked out all game. Several costly errors and even a lack of effort at times. Inexcusable.
Everyone remembers the late collapse against Yale. We had several chances to close that game out prior to that, though, and we dropped them all.
We couldn't get up two scores on Villanova - including a red zone turnover - and that ultimately cost us another winnable game.
I'm not convinced Mancuso (or English) is the answer. Maybe Walker gets to play next Saturday. I'm sure we'll dress everyone.
I've not been a fan of Durden's offense since Game 1 against Sam Houston. There have been flashes of greatness.
Ultimately, the responsibility falls on the head coach. I think he has more time than most. We certainly don't fire coaches quickly.
He has some things in his favor. He's 15-18. Reid started 15-17-1, and he was here a while. Heck, Marshall started 4-29.
He's undefeated against W&M. That may not matter to many here, but I know it's important on campus and in that locker room.
The turnovers have absolutely killed us. We are something like 9-1 when we win the turnover battle. That means we have lost (or tied) in TO ratio 23 times in 33 games! That is almost impossible to overcome.
Curious-would JMU players be academically acceptable for us to recruit? It seems
that they just flat out have better players at this point, but can we level the playing field?
This is a question for 32.
that they just flat out have better players at this point, but can we level the playing field?
This is a question for 32.
realize I’m not the intended target but as recently as a few years ago the answer is yes. There wasn’t much distinction between what JMU did and what we did. Know several players both recruited. May have changed since the Rocco era though.
Question Though is why has our roster been so depleted from the Richmond area? We have X that was a big time win but doesn’t seem that we have been getting the Graysons, McBrides, Browns, etc. recently (going back further Barber, Roane, ). Taking about players that have 1A offers that chose UR instead. Is that an admissions office problem, coaches problem or just kids that want to get away? Is this because VT is down so instead of recruiting FL they are taking more from the area and hurting us? The Richmond area doesn’t seem to lack for talent it just seems that we aren’t hitting on some of the guys that would be FCS AAs like we used to be able to.
And apologies if there are guys on the roster I’m missing.
And apologies if there are guys on the roster I’m missing.
Russ says we presently hardly ever recruit against JMU but rather WM stated as most recently as the CAA Teleconference today.That says something in a very subtle way.
We’ve known for awhile that a student athlete’s academic shortcomings have prevented us from recruiting certain high school athletes.I’ve forwarded a number of potentials to certain UR coaches from both NE Prep Schools,public HS in CT and public HS in FL.Many have been looked at,many are being looked at and more often than not have been outright rejected due to academics shortcomings.
We seem to have become more selective not less selective on who we
we’ll pursue for the UR gridiron.
Getting GR kids from Illinois,Duke and Northwestern to play for 1 year has opened people’s eyes to the transfer portal for sure.I think we’ll have much needed additional activity and results in finding kids from the FBS/BCS Level that have much more than 1 year of eligibility.
The transfer responsibility fell under Jeff Durden’s balleywick.He batted
pretty well with those transferres coming to UR.
I count about 4 Spider starters who would make the JMU two-deep. And one is a kicker. They’d better start recruiting the JMU targets.
Even though we have a better academic institution to offer, it would be very hard to recruit against JMU. As noted on another thread, UR has to commit to more than just football on Saturdays to REALY develop the program. Though football is the centerpiece, the administration has to commit to turning Saturdays into a real on-campus event...not just an athletic competition. JMU can offer the pageantry of college football that we don't (or won't).
That’s true. You need a marching band and kids who love the program. The stadium is a mausoleum most Saturdays. The whole experience needs re-evaluated.
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