Interesting comparison of basketball and football success for D1 schools

[fan2011]

I found a plot someone made of the relative basketball and football success of all D1 schools. They used Sagarin ratings to generate the plot. It indicates that Richmond's recent has been more successful in basketball than football. It also ranks Richmond as ~15th best AA school in basketball. Interesting perspective from a 3rd party analysis.

 

[SpiderDaMan]

Apparently this is beyond our comprehension as it would be expected to be.

 

[fan2011]

It seems I did not include a link to the plot in my original post.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/...etballversusFootball/BasketballversusFootball

 

[9Legs]

OLD Adage-- Figures Lie and Liars Figure

 

[SpiderDaMan]

It seems I did not include a link to the plot in my original post.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/...etballversusFootball/BasketballversusFootball

Ok, I see a bajillion dots. We all know math doesn't lie, but how does this not confuse me more? Complex is sometimes good in certain places (like grad school). The rest of us just aren't that bright while drinking our toddies

Oh! I just got it through my haze. If I'm in the P5 my football does more for my BB program than anywhere else. I see the correlation. Color me enlightened.

 

[Spiders05]

Alabama's basketball team is above a 1 but JMU's football team is below 1?

Like the idea here but don't know if underlying data is comparable in nature.

 

[fan2011]

Alabama's basketball team is above a 1 but JMU's football team is below 1?

Like the idea here but don't know if underlying data is comparable in nature.

Both the basketball and football Sagarin ratings follow gaussian distributions, and so rankings in the two sports can be compared through the z-score. The FCS football schools are not as good as the FBS schools. JMU is the 2nd best FCS school according to the chart. but even so they are not in the top ~16% of D1 schools (there are a lot of better FBS schools) and so are less than 1 in terms of z-score.

On the other hand, Alabama has been in the top 16% of D1 basketball schools (top ~60) for most of the past decade, and so they are above a 1 in terms of z-score in basketball. I don't think that the numbers are incorrect or show anything unexpected.

The prevailing trend shows that schools which are good at one sport tend to be good at the other, and FBS schools are much, much better than FCS schools at both sports on average.

 

[Spiders05]

11, I can appreciate what the guy is trying to do but when I see a result that shows Purdue basketball as being superior to Kentucky basketball, I have to question the integrity of the underlying data...especially when you allude to a decade-long window as you inferred with Alabama above.

Something else that was interesting to me is that schools in both FCS & FBS tend to fall off in football as basketball gets beyond a certain point. You see down & right trajectories for both FCS & FBS. Generally appears to be at >1.5 in basketball.