If I am interviewing a UR grad and a FGCU grad with the same knowledge, and the FGCU grad has the great, team first attitude GW3 showed, while the UR grad seems all about himself, I am hiring the FGCU guy everytime. GW3 can do more than fine for himself post college with a FGCU degree.
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Well if he stayed at Michigan, that degree is worth more than a degree from UR.
Kid wants to play.
My concern is it's to easy to say go elsewhere to get a chance. When most should look in the mirror and say how do I get better.
While I agree you should always try to get better, I think if players want playing time, they also need to be realistic. GW3 would have never gotten minutes at Michigan, and I doubt he gets too many staying here.
We shouldn’t make the assumption he had a choice about getting a Michigan or a UR degree. Teams cut. It’s pro sports.
This will be a new reality when the payments from the schools kicks in next year. In the past, it was frowned upon for schools to push kids out the door and technically speaking, scholarships had to be renewed year to year. But rarely did you see a scholarship not get renewed because schools feared the bad look in recruiting it would give them. But now - since kids will be getting a scholarship and MONEY, it will be much easier to "cut" kids they think are underperforming on the court. They don't have to cut their scholarship, just stop paying them. Tell them - they can stay, but they will no longer be receiving any additional funds from the school other than scholarship. Kids will transfer out, spot opens up on roster, and team can find someone else. So not only will kids be looking to leave, teams will be looking to "cut" players they no longer want.
I think you guys are missing my point, regardless the kid should take a portion of responsibility (large) when not playing,
100% of the responsibility. Coaches don't have an agenda. They'll play whoever helps them win.
But taking responsibility doesn't mean you have to stay anywhere.
I think it's the same life lesson I see from everyone under 30 in the job market.
If you're not getting praise or if you can get an extra $10k somewhere else ... make the move.
There's little incentive to stay in one place, or at least not many see otherwise.
I got your point. Mine was if he was getting replaced and didn't have a spot it doesn't matter. Think that's been going on a while now it's just turbo charged due to $.
I think learning lessons went out the door when a kid in college can make 2-3, and sometimes 4x as much as the professors who are teaching his class, which is the reason they were "supposed" to go to college in the first place - for education. But now - it sounds like even a mediocre player could bounce around a few times and make 100-200K per stop, and if they are smart or at least not reckless - graduate not only without any debt (scholarships), but also have a decent amount of change in their pocket - 500K at least I would say.
Hard to tell a kid he needs to learn a lesson when all they need to do is look at their bank account and that tells them - I am doing just fine.
Well, he might have been encouraged, but I think common sense and being realistic comes into play as well if you want playing time. Last year, he couldn't beat out any of our average at best guards, including a walk on. This year, we added Johnston and Thomas, so he wasn't gonna get minutes here this year either.
That is my point too.....you gotta be honest with yourself and if you aren't gonna get the playing time you want at the school you are at, transfer. Why can't he get better wherever he goes? I don't understand how being buried on the bench somewhere would make you better than hopefully being part of a rotation somewhere. Won't he work just as hard at his game at FGCU as he did here?
I see it in this thread and in others especially in off season. A whole lot of projection of starters and penciling in transfers and red shirts into slots and top 8 or 9. Fact of the matter is that we really don’t know how these guys will play out as Spiders. Looking at previous stats in HS or other college programs as well as video may or may not translate to our program. We’ve seen high expectation projections end up being mediocre players, bench players, or those who transfer out. When we’re lucky, we get a King or a Bigelow. Guess I’m tempering expectations with transfers and redshirts. Hopefully they have good pay back, but we’ll see. As I’ve mentioned before also, they will be required to adapt to Mooney’s System and philosophy.
The truth is that there isn't a single truth for everyone. Some kids absolutely love the sport and just want to play as much as possible, for as long as possible, anywhere they can do it. Others like the sport but are using it as a means to an end, and have already made a determination that they aren't going to pursue it professionally. And some are good at it but don't love it, and end up quitting once they get on campus. We don't truly know where each kid fits, and kind of not my place to judge.
I think it's common to be wrong about a high school kid or a college transfer who didn't play much at a previous stop.
guys who've produced at the D1 level seem fairly projectable to me, though a big step up can be a concern.
I heard similar stuff about the NFL draft. have to try to separate the kids who play because they're just really good at it or see it as a way for a scholarship and to make money ... from those that truly love the grind.
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