Dylan Homenick - 2025 HS Commit

[spider23]

According to North Pole Hoops.

Dylan Homenick - North Pole Hoops

northpolehoops.com

Looking to Phillyspider for some evaluation - I think that is the poster nearby to Perkiomen Prep?

 

[spiderstudent17]

 

[spiderman]

nice! elevates quick and dunks everything. no sign of an outside game in these highlights.
glad to have a developmental big man on the roster.

 

[SFspidur]

Idaho State offered last August as he was heading from Canada to do a post-grad year at Perkiomen, and he took an official visit there in September. It doesn't look like he picked up any additional offers based on his play this past season.

I said it was malpractice we didn't have another big already in the wings for when Walz and Beagle are gone, and I hope this ends up being the guy, but not a ton of buzz around him.

 

[spider23]

I watched those highlights as well. Saw two or three short hook shots, otherwise all dunks. Very interested to hear our Perkiomen area board guy if he has seen him play in person much?
Only other offer I see is Idaho State.

Does seem with the portal gone crazy there is less HS recruiting info out there. Looks like a legit prospect, but likely a bit of a project.

 

[spider23]

I said it was malpractice we didn't have another big already in the wings for when Walz and Beagle are gone, and I hope this ends up being the guy, but not a ton of buzz around him.

Agree. I am not writing him off by any means, but not a guy that seems ready to step in from day one.

 

[spiderman]

listed at 6'11" but most stuff online has him at 6'9".
so either inflating his height now or he grew.

can't be much to choose from in either the transfer or HS market this late. happy to land him and let him work for a year under Walz and Beagle. we'll still add 2 big men next year. by then the coaches should have a feel if he's got a future.

 

[MDspider8]

Hmmmm...this almost reads like a walk-on to me, but since walk-on's don't need to be specified in the 15-player roster limit era, we'll probably never know for sure. I guess this means Kirby Mooney won't be on the team next year? Don't mind using what would be a walk-on spot for a young big, but don't have huge expectations just based on the lack of recruiting/buzz.

 

[SFspidur]

With the House settlement roster limit thing still up in the air a bit, I suppose they could "cut" Kirby and then give him a spot back above the cap under the settlement amendment, allowing us to carry 16. Not clear to me how exactly that all is supposed to work.

 

[CarolinaSpider]

Likes the way he works around the basket and seems to have good hands
and agree he has good lift. Would have like to have seen him shoot a short jumper or foul
shot just to see his touch and form. I did like his followup on teammates shots.

 

[GKiller]

Hmmmm...this almost reads like a walk-on to me, but since walk-on's don't need to be specified in the 15-player roster limit era, we'll probably never know for sure. I guess this means Kirby Mooney won't be on the team next year? Don't mind using what would be a walk-on spot for a young big, but don't have huge expectations just based on the lack of recruiting/buzz.

With the House settlement roster limit thing still up in the air a bit, I suppose they could "cut" Kirby and then give him a spot back above the cap under the settlement amendment, allowing us to carry 16. Not clear to me how exactly that all is supposed to work.

I don't see Kirby going anywhere unless he wanted to leave. But this doesn't affect him because the 15 roster limit isn't being instituted next season. So I don't see how he would need to be "cut" and brought back. Of course nothing with the settlement is finalized. but the word is current rostered players like walk ons will be grandfathered in and the schools can decide to exceed on a voluntary basis. that is what ncaa & lawyers proposed after the judge held up settlement mainly on this point. how many schools do that voluntarily idk, but as of now it looks like we're doing it w Kirby so we can add 1 more.

 

[GKiller]

Men's Basketball Adds Incoming Freshman Dylan Homenick - University of Richmond Athletics

RICHMOND, Va. — Dylan Homenick, a 6'11" center from Perkiomen School in Pennsburg, Pa., has signed with Spider men's basketball and will join the program for...

richmondspiders.com

 

[SFspidur]

I don't see Kirby going anywhere unless he wanted to leave. But this doesn't affect him because the 15 roster limit isn't being instituted next season. So I don't see how he would need to be "cut" and brought back. Of course nothing with the settlement is finalized. but the word is current rostered players like walk ons will be grandfathered in and the schools can decide to exceed on a voluntary basis. that is what ncaa & lawyers proposed after the judge held up settlement mainly on this point. how many schools do that voluntarily idk, but as of now it looks like we're doing it w Kirby so we can add 1 more.

The language doesn't seem to be a general "no cap" next year and does not differentiate between walk-ons and scholarship players. It just specifically relates to athletes in general who would have lost their roster spots due to the caps going into effect. The caps are otherwise still present.

So I'm unclear on how it works with us adding an additional guy here who would push Kirby from #15 to #16 on the roster. As an extreme example, can you just keep adding guys and have 30 on the roster and just say the first 15 guys would have lost their spots and thus get grandfathered and don't count?

 

[urmite]

Agree. I am not writing him off by any means, but not a guy that seems ready to step in from day one.

But hopefully day 366…

 

[kneepadmckinney]

Would you look at that. A developmental big. I recall being chastised on here for suggesting it.

 

[GKiller]

The language doesn't seem to be a general "no cap" next year and does not differentiate between walk-ons and scholarship players. It just specifically relates to athletes in general who would have lost their roster spots due to the caps going into effect. The caps are otherwise still present.

So I'm unclear on how it works with us adding an additional guy here who would push Kirby from #15 to #16 on the roster. As an extreme example, can you just keep adding guys and have 30 on the roster and just say the first 15 guys would have lost their spots and thus get grandfathered and don't count?

maybe there is another shoe to drop on our roster. if there's not, idk know what u mean by Kirby having to be cut. Yeah it's related to athletes who already lost spots, but also anyone still on roster currently (or incoming freshman in 25-26') who would otherwise have a spot. Kirby fits. Not understanding why we would have to "cut" Kirby just to keep Kirby. That doesn't make any sense to me & I don't think the language requires that action either.

However i don't presume to know all the language or how the settlement will end up. Tho I had always predicted walk ons would be grandfathered in, if i had the motivation I would search that up on spiderfans. The objection to the roster limits came from walk ons. They were affected class. if those first 15 were willing to no longer have a scholarship and become a walk on & still not have a roster spot, then I think your example has more merit. idk if I have a better answer to it except to say that usually the extreme examples r the worst ones.

 

[SFspidur]

Not a big deal, and I don’t particularly about the details of how the requirements are met. I just assume it will work out.

Anyway, JOC out with an article. Acknowledges he’s a developmental recruit who likely won’t play next season barring injury desperation.

The addition of Homenick completes UR’s 2025-26 roster, with 16 members, one over the presumed cap per House Settlement guidelines. But redshirt freshman guard Kirby Mooney, the nephew of coach Chris Mooney, came to Richmond as a walk-on. His roster position is expected to be exempt.

 

[Dr. Spidey]

Needs to put on about 40 pounds

 

[VT4700]

My idea of a "developmental" big would be a proven guy who did well at a lesser conference than the A-10 and is ready to give our level a shot. He could then "develop" more and get better. We should be able to land a couple of these next year. Then, if we want a freshman big, bring in a 2026 recruit with them who might be a little more of an A-10 type recruit? But, I guess we'll see with this new addition. This late into May, with our roster pretty much set for next year, I guess it doesn't hurt to give him a shot, as long as we don't end up needing the scholarship down the line.

 

[PhillySpider]

Developmental is right on. He'll need a LOT of development to ever help us. I said Walz was going to need time and a lot of work to really help us (and I's say I was pretty on point there ) but he was well ahead of where Homenick is for sure at the same stage (an actually Homenick has a year more experience).

This is troubling to me about state of the program that we are taking on guys like this that are so far away - - I assume we had absolutely no better options???

 

[urfan1]

drawing a blank, who was our last British Columbia player?

 

[GKiller]

This is troubling to me about state of the program that we are taking on guys like this that are so far away - - I assume we had absolutely no better options???

state of the program is troubling but it's been that way for plenty of Moon tenure. Any roster will have some risks but we regularly take these big man project/developmental guys....in no particular order Grace, Soulis, Walz, Sal, Luke P, Friendshuh, Homenick. I feel like guys like Geriot, Ododa, Cline, Golden were not in same category going in.

If Moon and staff can't identify AND close on higher level recruits out of HS and portal what's the next option? Playing the numbers game with the roster. Max it out. Maybe get lucky. At least we're trying that. & I've said a number of times on here...imo UR is more agreeable to using a scholarship than paying a lot of money in rev share/NIL.

Technically there is another option...but we'd rather extend Mooney & run it back!

 

[GKiller]

This late into May, with our roster pretty much set for next year, I guess it doesn't hurt to give him a shot, as long as we don't end up needing the scholarship down the line.

Needing the scholarship down the line really doesn't exist anymore. There is no need to look ahead more than 2 years. It's pro sports. big schools have been doing it longer, but if you need a spot you just get rid of someone. we'll be replacing half our roster next year. We have 5 out of eligibility then add a couple transfers out at least.

 

[SFspidur]

Hey, we didn't get Soulis until a month before the 2023–24 season started, so this is an improvement! (Yes, I know he moved up a year to join us early.)

drawing a blank, who was our last British Columbia player?

Can't think of any offhand. The closest I can come up with is Bucknor from neighboring Alberta.

 

[urfan1]

Hey, we didn't get Soulis until a month before the 2023–24 season started, so this is an improvement! (Yes, I know he moved up a year to join us early.)


Can't think of any offhand. The closest I can come up with is Bucknor from neighboring Alberta.

That's who I had in mind, but thought it was British Columbia

 

[AnnapSpider]

All I know is you can’t teach 6’11”. So, he passed the first step in the right direction.

 

[VT4700]

All I know is you can’t teach 6’11”. So, he passed the first step in the right direction.

And Grant's only offers other than us were American, Furman, Holy Cross and JMU. So, there's that too. 😀 I hope I am wrong saying I don't expect much.

 

[plydogg]

drawing a blank, who was our last British Columbia player?

Not sure, but I do remember our last Canadian developmental big man who was written off early in his Spider career. I’d say hitting the game winner to send us to the NCAA tourney for the first time in a decade is a developmental success for Mooney. Would be nice if we can strike again with a Canadian.

 

[MrTbone]

And Grant's only offers other than us were American, Furman, Holy Cross and JMU. So, there's that too. 😀 I hope I am wrong saying I don't expect much.

GG also had a GW offer and interest and maybe an offer from GMU. I believe Grant had more interest before he was injured his junior(?) year.

I of course realize you’re joking because there isn’t a ton of comp between him and Homenick. Perhaps we’ll be surprised but I agree it’s unlikely. I’d rather have kept Soulis.

 

[Eight Legger]

'But he has played as far away as China!'

 

[gcarter52]

GG also had a GW offer and interest and maybe an offer from GMU. I believe Grant had more interest before he was injured his junior(?) year.

I of course realize you’re joking because there isn’t a ton of comp between him and Homenick. Perhaps we’ll be surprised but I agree it’s unlikely. I’d rather have kept Soulis.

Let’s be thankful for what we have.

 

[spiderman]

Needs to put on about 40 pounds

that's the difference of being 18 vs 22+ like Walz and Beagle.

 

[spiderman]

My idea of a "developmental" big would be a proven guy who did well at a lesser conference than the A-10 and is ready to give our level a shot. He could then "develop" more and get better.

Cline and Quinn fit your definition, but no way would I call them "developmental" big men.
to me a developmental big is a big guy who needs to get stronger and work on his game before he's game ready.

 

[spiderman]

If Moon and staff can't identify AND close on higher level recruits out of HS and portal what's the next option?

I think losing a big man like Soulis so late put Mooney in a tough spot. we didn't have room for a big until then, and by the time Soulis left there were very few left.

Homenick is a good gamble. he's raw but has size and athleticism. no good reason he can't develop. worst case ... in today's transfer/NIL world, nobody is guaranteed 4 years any more. he has a year to show he has potential.

 

[97spiderfan]

The UR Press release on his signing is 3 sentences long. No mention of high school stats, no mention of high school accolades, no mention of other D-1 offers.

It really says it all that we signed a kid and we couldn't find one notable thing to say about his play in the press release announcing his signing.

UR Press release

 

[SpiderTrap]

In regards to scholarship limits - these are roster caps. For basketball next season, the cap is 15. The language I found online states "These changes will allow more players to receive scholarships, but the teams will have to follow the new max roster size limits". So for basketball - the roster is 15 with scholarships at 15. So you can't give out 15 scholarships and carry two walk-ons to get a roster of 17. What is most likely to occur is you still have walk-ons, probably filling out the roster like before - say spots 12-15 on the team. You probably give them a scholarship (if the school commits to all 15 scholarships), but you likely don't give any payments to these players. Whereas the rest of the roster will get their scholarship and payments from the school under the new settlement.
But - I could see lower level schools, and UR might fit into this category - try to save some money, and say - scholarships and payments to 12, and the remaining 3 are on their own just like before. Therefore saving the 3 scholarship money for payments.

I like that we got a big man on the roster, but in this day and age - means nothing. This kid will not see the floor next year, which only means he could transfer somewhere (although doesn't look like he had any other offers), or UR will likely just need to secure someone in the portal next year with size. The day of developing freshman is over. They either come in and play right away and make an impact, or you will probably never see them again on your team, as they will transfer and play somewhere else.

 

[SFspidur]

Trap, the judge refused to sign off on the settlement unless they fixed the issue of athletes losing their spots due to the new caps. So that appears to be how we're getting to 16 next season...Kirby as a walk-on gets to stay thanks to the settlement amendment (still yet to be approved but should be) even though we're going to 15 scholarship players.

So these roster caps are going to be soft numbers for a few years until affected athletes get grandfathered through. I believe schools will have until July 1 to submit names of athletes that will be covered by this. And notably, affected athletes will even be able to transfer to other schools and still not count toward their new schools' roster caps.

 

[urfan1]

Trap, the judge refused to sign off on the settlement unless they fixed the issue of athletes losing their spots due to the new caps. So that appears to be how we're getting to 16 next season...Kirby as a walk-on gets to stay thanks to the settlement amendment (still yet to be approved but should be) even though we're going to 15 scholarship players.

So these roster caps are going to be soft numbers for a few years until affected athletes get grandfathered through. I believe schools will have until July 1 to submit names of athletes that will be covered by this. And notably, affected athletes will even be able to transfer to other schools and still not count toward their new schools' roster caps.

Or Chris could move his nephew to a manager who is able to practice with the team for a year, he school could still honor his scholly.

 

[GKiller]

Or Chris could move his nephew to a manager who is able to practice with the team for a year, he school could still honor his scholly.

?? Nephew wasn’t on scholly

 

[spiderman]

This kid will not see the floor next year, which only means he could transfer somewhere (although doesn't look like he had any other offers), or UR will likely just need to secure someone in the portal next year with size. The day of developing freshman is over. They either come in and play right away and make an impact, or you will probably never see them again on your team, as they will transfer and play somewhere else.

this is a smart kid. he's not coming in with one other offer expecting to beat out two 22+ year olds.
like McGlothin and Robinson, it's likely he will not make an impact year 1. but that doesn't guarantee he'll transfer or that we'll show him the door.