Start him senior night? Sub him out after 1-2 minutes, but we did it for Hovde in 2011. Now, it was easier to play him with the guys he had around him, but it would be really cool to see.
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When did coaches go away from starting seniors in their final home game? Growing up that's all I saw on TV from ACC teams. Lefty used to play a bunch of scrub seniors for the first minute or two, and had his regular starters on stand-by if things got out of hand (which it rarely did). It's only for a minute or two, what's the harm?
Davidson just did it with their senior walk on. Currently up by 18 over the lambs.
Mooney will NEVER start a walk on.
Mooney will NEVER start a walk on.
Big difference between playing a bunch of walk ons vs just 1 who can shoot the 3. Did Mooney start Hovde on his Senior night? Can't remember.
I'll just say one thing - should Chu start, the team fall behind and UR then lay an egg the rest of the game and lose to SLU and lose a bye in the A10 tournament, I will be livid. No matter if it's 0-0 when he comes out, you have to do the maximum to take advantage of the opportunity that's presented itself to the team. Period. Full stop.
They're playing for a bye. The other guys in the rotation have battled their asses off to get to this point from a few weeks ago and doing anything to jeopardize that effort, no matter how seemingly small the odds may be (kind of like UR getting a bye 3 weeks ago) cannot be done at this juncture.
I'm glad Chu has stayed on the team, I've got nothing but respect for him and hope he gets proper recognition. But when it's 0-0 and you're playing an A10 team, play the starters and the rotation to go out and get a 20 point lead, then let Zach get in there and play a bunch. But win the game before you do anything symbolic.
They're playing for a bye. The other guys in the rotation have battled their asses off to get to this point from a few weeks ago and doing anything to jeopardize that effort, no matter how seemingly small the odds may be (kind of like UR getting a bye 3 weeks ago) cannot be done at this juncture.
I'm glad Chu has stayed on the team, I've got nothing but respect for him and hope he gets proper recognition. But when it's 0-0 and you're playing an A10 team, play the starters and the rotation to go out and get a 20 point lead, then let Zach get in there and play a bunch. But win the game before you do anything symbolic.
your heart says, yes, start him, hear his name on the sound system one time but your brain says, play him later if the opportunity presents itself.
On the other hand, Chu (100% 3 pt shooter) makes a 3 to start the game instead of the obligatory wide open DT (11% 3 pt shooter) brick. That would bring the house down!! 
I have no doubt that Mooney will go with the brick and not start Chu.
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I have no doubt that Mooney will go with the brick and not start Chu.
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Why don't you think about laying off Deion man. If you think its funny then you have had your laugh. Saying the same thing over and over gets really old. Deion is a warrior . Do you think we would have had won 5 in a row and be where are right now without him. There's a whole more to winning basketball games than just how well someone shoots it!
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It is about time some on here support our team and stop trashing them. We are the 4 seed wit a win Saturday.
It is about time some on here support our team and stop trashing them. We are the 4 seed wit a win Saturday.
Geez, people. Chu and the other walk-ons work their a$$es off in practice every day for 4 years, help our scholarship players get better, admirably represent our program, and the only reward they want is some PT.
Let Chu start, and have a minute or so in the limelight on senior night. If we are down by 3 when he leaves the game, and lose by 3, it's not his fault. It's the team and the coaches' fault. If we lose to last place SLU at home on senior night with a #4 seed in the A10 tourney on the line, we have much bigger problems than letting a walk-on start and play for a minute.
Perhaps he will even get some mop-up minutes when we are up at the end of the game, but that is nothing like starting on senior night.
It is the very least we can do for him. He is every bit a Spider baller as any of the others. Having him start will be a huge motivation and source of pride for the other players as well. Starting on senior night is something this kid will remember for the rest of his life.
Let Chu start, and have a minute or so in the limelight on senior night. If we are down by 3 when he leaves the game, and lose by 3, it's not his fault. It's the team and the coaches' fault. If we lose to last place SLU at home on senior night with a #4 seed in the A10 tourney on the line, we have much bigger problems than letting a walk-on start and play for a minute.
Perhaps he will even get some mop-up minutes when we are up at the end of the game, but that is nothing like starting on senior night.
It is the very least we can do for him. He is every bit a Spider baller as any of the others. Having him start will be a huge motivation and source of pride for the other players as well. Starting on senior night is something this kid will remember for the rest of his life.
My point has nothing to with whether Chu starts or not it's SpiderK continually basing Deion. The stuff gets old. The kid made two of the best defensive plays at the end of the Umass game you will ever see in a college basketball game. There's more to winning games than how one kid shoots. That's why it's called a basketball team. I will say it again, Deion is a warrior.
And while I'm at it I'm tired of everything SpiderK posts being negative, If our team is so bad and our players are so bad why watch the games?
And while I'm at it I'm tired of everything SpiderK posts being negative, If our team is so bad and our players are so bad why watch the games?
The "everyone is a winner" mentality some of you have on this topic is absolutely not applicable in this instance and is pure BS. The classy programs (I consider ours to be classy, BTW) all do this, because frankly, doing things like this is more important and bigger than winning.
Anyone who doesn't get that needs to go back to class.
Anyone who doesn't get that needs to go back to class.
I hate to start this on Chu's thread but...
Deion shooting once each half a couple of minutes in is a smart move. Despite K's opinion there is the chance he will make it. It also plants a seed of doubt in the opponent. But mainly, for the last five game, every time he is unsuccessful on offense, he gets more aggressive on defense. Usually leading to a steal, a block, or authoritative rebound and we need those from him.
Deion shooting once each half a couple of minutes in is a smart move. Despite K's opinion there is the chance he will make it. It also plants a seed of doubt in the opponent. But mainly, for the last five game, every time he is unsuccessful on offense, he gets more aggressive on defense. Usually leading to a steal, a block, or authoritative rebound and we need those from him.
I'm sorry, but this symbolic gesture is not more important than winning. That's a wholly false statement. This conversation is ridiculous.
K, I am done with you. I think you are trying to be funny most of the time but some people just don't know how to do funny.
I can assure you don't hurt my feelings at all, I'm just real tired of you.
Go spiders.
I can assure you don't hurt my feelings at all, I'm just real tired of you.
Go spiders.
must say that debating whether a walk-on should be starting is a lot more fun than trashing the team and coaches. every fan on here realizes how much the non-scholie athlete works and helps the team and we love to see them get any minutes they can but really up to the coach as to how he handles it.
I watched the VPI/Davidson game last night, and saw how the Davidson players were rallying around their senior walk-on (the kid from Scotland) before they took the court. This was a very big game, every bit as big as our game on Saturday, and they started their walk-on guy on senior night. He played for less than a minute, threw up an air ball from 3, but you could tell that the Davidson players were fired up for this guy, and they absolutely put the hammer down on the Lambs the first 5 minutes of that game.
I have yet to be at any senior night for any college program where the seniors didn't start, walk-on or not. Any of you who think that it's not important to have a guy like Chu start on senior night aren't seeing the big picture.
I have yet to be at any senior night for any college program where the seniors didn't start, walk-on or not. Any of you who think that it's not important to have a guy like Chu start on senior night aren't seeing the big picture.
I'd start him, work to get him the first shot, and if he makes it keep him in. If he misses, pull him. That seems to be what McKillop did last night with the Scottish guy.
I agree with this and also when a win was guaranteed by 2011. The stats are just so bad for St Louis. Add to that some trend numbers involving this game. UR seems to get the home conference finale often. CM's teams when playing the Sat last game at home are 6-0 including the likes of Xavier and Dayton going down. UR's record since being in the A10 is 9-0.
Chus seems to be a fan fav on the board so hopefully the kid gets his time at the beginning and at the end.
Let's go with UR 78 St L 54
Keef have u been to our senior nights? B/c I'm not aware of us doing this. So I guess we have no class according to you. I dont expect Chu to start, but I hope we win handily and he plays late. Spiderman is right your "classy programs all do this" statement is wrong, most programs do not, including ones I consider having plenty of class which is very subjective anyway. Good for McKillop that's his choice. For some reason people think this is prominent kind of like scheduling an away game at senior players hometown areas. Extremely rare, I mean the big programs don't even play any true road games OOC anymore at all unless it is a league challenge.
What happens if you have 6 seniors (including walk ons) 1 poor senior cant get the start on senior night. I'm also wondering if this applies to other sports such as football. That senior walk on QB has to get first series of game. Mind Blown.
Chu will be honored well & I think more important than a start is if he could characterize his whole career at UR as being treated with class and my guess is he would.
What happens if you have 6 seniors (including walk ons) 1 poor senior cant get the start on senior night. I'm also wondering if this applies to other sports such as football. That senior walk on QB has to get first series of game. Mind Blown.
Chu will be honored well & I think more important than a start is if he could characterize his whole career at UR as being treated with class and my guess is he would.
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