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Buddy Simmons II - 2025 Transfer Visit

Looks like he has a LOT of game. Mooney can usually close on the small PG given our history. Tho I also worry a lot about the tiny backcourt if that's how it ends up.
Yep, he looks good, shoots high percent from 3 and FT, quick release, can get his shot off. Would look good next to Rodney Rice in back court. But agree with Gkiller, with Tyne would be too short a back court. Yes, we have had small back courts and success, but Tyne is not the guy next to another smallish guard.
 
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he's definitely a bucket. reminds of Kendall Anthony.
his coach loves him. hardest worker ever stuff.
Tyne is going to play 30+ though, so we'd be dealing with a small backsourt again. that's a constant uphill battle.

we sure love scouring the waiver wire for good guys on bad teams from weak conferences.
 
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He would be an excellent addition to the team. Height doesn’t really worry me. We’ve done well with smaller guards in the past. Our priority has to be a skillful PG who is a great shooter and who can score on multiple levels. This guy has it. Would love for him and Boyd to join as the 1-2. Tyne could be an impact 6th player or if we want a smaller line up, move Boyd to the 3 spot and Tyne at the 2.
 
at some point, size matters. if we're really small at guard we better make up for it somewhere else.
Hunt/King, Gilly/Blake, SDJ/Anthony. We’ve played smaller guards before with great success though Tyne/Simmons would be the shortest guard combo we’ve had. You mention Tyne getting 30+ minutes next season. If that’s the case, then we have issues with our backcourt in my opinion. Tyne is great and think he will do well for us, but he can’t be the focal point. Would be a great 6th man off the bench. Just dreaming here, but a combo of Simmons and Boyd looks great for scoring, at least on paper.
 
I can live with two super small scoring guards if we're playing AP at the 3, Beagle at the 4 and Walz at the 5.

I just think Mooney sees something in Tyne. I don't disagree. I think he can be great. but he's not there yet.
 
Hunt/King, Gilly/Blake, SDJ/Anthony. We’ve played smaller guards before with great success though Tyne/Simmons would be the shortest guard combo we’ve had. You mention Tyne getting 30+ minutes next season. If that’s the case, then we have issues with our backcourt in my opinion. Tyne is great and think he will do well for us, but he can’t be the focal point. Would be a great 6th man off the bench. Just dreaming here, but a combo of Simmons and Boyd looks great for scoring, at least on paper.
How many of those combos made the NCAAs?

Gilly and Blake came the closest
 
we sure love scouring the waiver wire for good guys on bad teams from weak conferences.
This is true and is NOT a recipe for success at all. Dusan a perfect example last year.

And not sure how we even include on a list og "good guys" on bad teams. . . (I know nothing about him). But I am highly suspect of anyone coming from lower levels where their team did not have pretty good success. White and Beagle fell into this category as well. Absent totally dominating stats, what makes us think he can help us win at a higher level than where he wasn't able to help win? Someone has to score for bad teams - - See Dusan 2023-2024 Dartmouth- - but it doesn't mean you can be a meaningful player a level (or two) up just because you scored for a bad team in a weak conference. And what about defense? Bad teams are often bad because they can't play defense - - collectively or as individuals. Again we don't need to look back past Dusan for evidence. I'd ADD to that the height question and not act like its all great except the fact we might be small as a result!

We need to stop getting so infatuated with stats (and especially scoring stats) that come in a context that we really have no clue about.

I feel confident that virtually no one knows the first thing about this guy (certainly including me) other than the highlight reel included in the string. That represents his 10 ( or however many it was) best plays from a year and virtually all of them happened against the USC Upstates, Presbyterians, and Longwoods of the college basketball world.

I refuse to get even slightly excited about a guy like this. I might get excited if we knew (or even thought) we had good pieces in place and were searching for a guy or two with a particular skill set that could help us stay up etc. But given the state of the program, we need key players etc. If this is the best we are going to get out of the portal, its going to be another very long season. I'd honestly rather take another AP and hope and pray he's an A-10 than a guy like this. And that's knowing that AP and GW3 didn't work out!

If this all we are going to be shooting for (or all we can get), Mooney is going to be known as the Coach who stole money while running a once proud basketball program and tradition into the dirt!

And to be very clear, this is not an indictment of this kid - - - I again state I know nothing about him! This is an indictment of the program (AD and coach principally).
 
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This is true and is NOT a recipe for success at all. Dusan a perfect example last year.

And not sure how we even include on a list og "good guys" on bad teams. . . (I know nothing about him). But I am highly suspect of anyone coming from lower levels where their team did not have pretty good success. White and Beagle fell into this category as well. Absent totally dominating stats, what makes us think he can help us win at a higher level than where he wasn't able to help win? Someone has to score for bad teams - - See Dusan 2023-2024 Dartmouth- - but it doesn't mean you can be a meaningful player a level (or two) up just because you scored for a bad team in a weak conference. And what about defense? Bad teams are often bad because they can't play defense - - collectively or as individuals. Again we don't need to look back past Dusan for evidence. I'd ADD to that the height question and not act like its all great except the fact we might be small as a result!

We need to stop getting so infatuated with stats (and especially scoring stats) that come in a context that we really have no clue about.

I feel confident that virtually no one knows the first thing about this guy (certainly including me) other than the highlight reel included in the string. That represents his 10 ( or however many it was) best plays from a year and virtually all of them happened against the USC Upstates, Presbyterians, and Longwoods of the college basketball world.

I refuse to get even slightly excited about a guy like this. I might get excited if we knew (or even thought) we had good pieces in place and were searching for a guy or two with a particular skill set that could help us stay up etc. But given the state of the program, we need key players etc. If this is the best we are going to get out of the portal, its going to be another very long season. I'd honestly rather take another AP and hope and pray he's an A-10 than a guy like this. And that's knowing that AP and GW3 didn't work out!

If this all we are going to be shooting for (or all we can get), Mooney is going to be known as the Coach who stole money while running a once proud basketball program and tradition into the dirt!
All our best transfers in recent years were players who had good stats on weaker conference teams. TJ, Blake, King, Hunt come to mind. We don’t seem to have many players who are transferring down from P5 but the few we have had didn’t have much impact. Marshall Wood and GW3 come to mind.
 
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He would be an excellent addition to the team. Height doesn’t really worry me. We’ve done well with smaller guards in the past. Our priority has to be a skillful PG who is a great shooter and who can score on multiple levels. This guy has it. Would love for him and Boyd to join as the 1-2. Tyne could be an impact 6th player or if we want a smaller line up, move Boyd to the 3 spot and Tyne at the 2.
Height doesn’t worry you? How many times this season did we see Tyne in Mooney’s defense on a tall forward or center under the basket. Maybe Moon can have second short guard double up on big guys under basket.

All seriously, I realize this is a Moon sys problem more than on short guard, but 2 short guards in any event is still not optimal.
 
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This is true and is NOT a recipe for success at all. Dusan a perfect example last year.

And not sure how we even include on a list og "good guys" on bad teams. . . (I know nothing about him). But I am highly suspect of anyone coming from lower levels where their team did not have pretty good success. White and Beagle fell into this category as well. Absent totally dominating stats, what makes us think he can help us win at a higher level than where he wasn't able to help win? Someone has to score for bad teams - - See Dusan 2023-2024 Dartmouth- - but it doesn't mean you can be a meaningful player a level (or two) up just because you scored for a bad team in a weak conference. And what about defense? Bad teams are often bad because they can't play defense - - collectively or as individuals. Again we don't need to look back past Dusan for evidence. I'd ADD to that the height question and not act like its all great except the fact we might be small as a result!

We need to stop getting so infatuated with stats (and especially scoring stats) that come in a context that we really have no clue about.

I feel confident that virtually no one knows the first thing about this guy (certainly including me) other than the highlight reel included in the string. That represents his 10 ( or however many it was) best plays from a year and virtually all of them happened against the USC Upstates, Presbyterians, and Longwoods of the college basketball world.

I refuse to get even slightly excited about a guy like this. I might get excited if we knew (or even thought) we had good pieces in place and were searching for a guy or two with a particular skill set that could help us stay up etc. But given the state of the program, we need key players etc. If this is the best we are going to get out of the portal, its going to be another very long season. I'd honestly rather take another AP and hope and pray he's an A-10 than a guy like this. And that's knowing that AP and GW3 didn't work out!

If this all we are going to be shooting for (or all we can get), Mooney is going to be known as the Coach who stole money while running a once proud basketball program and tradition into the dirt!

And to be very clear, this is not an indictment of this kid - - - I again state I know nothing about him! This is an indictment of the program (AD and coach principally).
People fall in love during offseason as we try to fill holes for next season. Art, science, or crapshoot? You’re right - we really don’t know much about these guys. Better hope the commits we get can make impact cause we are in need.
 
Height doesn’t worry you? How many times this season did we see Tyne in Mooney’s defense on a tall forward or center under the basket. Maybe Moon can have second short guard double up on big guys under baker.

All seriously, I realize this is a Moon sys problem more than on short guard, but 2 short guards in any event is still not optimal.
You said it at the end. It was our poor defensive system that other teams exploited, which led to those situations.
 
You said it at the end. It was our poor defensive system that other teams exploited, which led to those situations.
I did because I was making a point. But even 2 short guards in a "normal" defense is not optimal. When we were playing teams this season with larger guards, they had no trouble shooting over Tyne & Hunt. You had to see that?
 
I did because I was making a point. But even 2 short guards in a "normal" defense is not optimal. When we were playing teams this season with larger guards, they had no trouble shooting over Tyne & Hunt. You had to see that?
I saw a lot of flying Dutchman’s or even uncontested 3s, poor help side defense, poor switching on defense, and lack of boxing out on rebounds on defense this year. You’re right in that a properly contested 3 foot shot by a 5’10” is easier to make over a 6’3” player but with all our defensive issues this year, the 5 inch height difference of the individual contesting a jumper was the least of our concerns.
 
This is true and is NOT a recipe for success at all. Dusan a perfect example last year.

And not sure how we even include on a list og "good guys" on bad teams. . . (I know nothing about him). But I am highly suspect of anyone coming from lower levels where their team did not have pretty good success. White and Beagle fell into this category as well. Absent totally dominating stats, what makes us think he can help us win at a higher level than where he wasn't able to help win? Someone has to score for bad teams - - See Dusan 2023-2024 Dartmouth- - but it doesn't mean you can be a meaningful player a level (or two) up just because you scored for a bad team in a weak conference. And what about defense? Bad teams are often bad because they can't play defense - - collectively or as individuals. Again we don't need to look back past Dusan for evidence. I'd ADD to that the height question and not act like its all great except the fact we might be small as a result!

We need to stop getting so infatuated with stats (and especially scoring stats) that come in a context that we really have no clue about.

I feel confident that virtually no one knows the first thing about this guy (certainly including me) other than the highlight reel included in the string. That represents his 10 ( or however many it was) best plays from a year and virtually all of them happened against the USC Upstates, Presbyterians, and Longwoods of the college basketball world.

I refuse to get even slightly excited about a guy like this. I might get excited if we knew (or even thought) we had good pieces in place and were searching for a guy or two with a particular skill set that could help us stay up etc. But given the state of the program, we need key players etc. If this is the best we are going to get out of the portal, its going to be another very long season. I'd honestly rather take another AP and hope and pray he's an A-10 than a guy like this. And that's knowing that AP and GW3 didn't work out!

If this all we are going to be shooting for (or all we can get), Mooney is going to be known as the Coach who stole money while running a once proud basketball program and tradition into the dirt!

And to be very clear, this is not an indictment of this kid - - - I again state I know nothing about him! This is an indictment of the program (AD and coach principally).
Agreed @PhillySpider. This is just more of the same methodology that has never worked out in terms of A10 championships and trips to the NCAAs. Anyone who thinks there is a chance of UR doing a 180 year over year in the positive direction based on these specific visits lives in some sort of dream world. The “plan” is develop the freshman class. It is a development year next year. Period.
 
We’ve done well with smaller guards in the past.
Id amend this statement to be “we’ve done well with a small guard in the past but not two small guards.”

Only variation where two small guards worked was Gilyard/francis in 2020. It’s never worked well otherwise, so if the plan is tyne+smallguard#2 as our starting backcourt I’d prepare for frustration.
 
K0 + SDJ was a very good backcourt on one of our best defensive teams under Mooney. That is 5’8 and 5’10.
 
While Dusan was aggressive on offense, he was no defense and athleticism ball stopper going back to when he played prep. Just a bad mix of guys that seemed to have one skill, that was untested vs higher competition as they couldnt shoot much here. Go look at my first post when we got a commitment from King. Nostradamus23 right again. I do like the look of Simmons. Again need to break the bank on a Rodney Rice type next to him and u have something. But this guy can score in the A10 I believe. Need slashers and athletes with a tough winning attitude added. Works for Houston and SDSU year after year. Cmon Philly, this is our time of year to shine. Last off season was glorious right until ECU or someone shot 85% from the filed vs us in a scrimmage and it all came tumbling down.
 
Yep that's the issue,what looks pretty and fluid and small guys being gutsy doesn't often equate to NCAA play.
Not a fan of 2 small guards on balance, but we have plenty of other problems in making it to NCAA, and the guy at the top is in charge still. Once every 6 and 1/3 years doesn’t cut it.
 
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Look, I’m not saying you can’t be successful with a smaller lineup, but there’s almost no evidence to support that this affords us a higher than nominal chance of making the NCAAs.

And it seems even more unlikely without a dramatic change in coaching/system choice.
 
it's hard to land a really talented, athletic 6'3" guard. that kid is going high major.

it's much easier to get the undersized stud that the high majors pass on. we've done well with them but it does cause problems defensively. we blame the system here but every defense has help and some switching. it's not a big deal when the help is coming from a big strong guard. it is when it's coming from a 5'8" 155 lb guy, even if that guy becomes the all time steal leader.

we're not Duke who can choose from the perfect prospects. we usually require ball handling and shooting. I think we've learned that the "flaw" can't be athleticism at our level. the flaw we've been ok with has often been size.

I personally don't doubt Simmons can play and score at the A10 level from the little I've seen, just like B Artis who came on. it's obviously not ideal to play him with Tyne or Argabright. we'd need to get long and athletic at the wing. I'm hoping that's the direction we're going with McGlothin and Robinson. plus maybe adding a physical guy like Doumbia or Panoam.
 
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