Bobby Ukrop
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I don't think the Bobby fits in with the "temper your expectations" philosophy that has gripped our BOT.
UR isn't trying to get the Ukrop family back. Instead, they are busy trying to have a communist professor from Yale on campus to speak and changing the spelling of woman to womxn. Can't make this stuff up. Remarkable.
Unfortunately, I don't think the Ukrops' money would go nearly as far as we would need it to in order to make a difference at this point anyway.
Good idea. Musk would probably buy Duke or Kentucky though. But if we could get that Tesla/Twitter/SpaceX/Starlink NIL money we could do some damage.
Personally, I am getting sick of NIL. It's interesting, but I think it is more impactful in football than hoops. I do think it can be a chemistry nightmare on a team, heard of some locker rooms that went south in P6 football this year. I think harder to manage in hoops too, because one guy gets a good deal, and only take one guy to be mad and affected and impact the team.
Personally, I am getting sick of NIL. It's interesting, but I think it is more impactful in football than hoops. I do think it can be a chemistry nightmare on a team, heard of some locker rooms that went south in P6 football this year. I think harder to manage in hoops too, because one guy gets a good deal, and only take one guy to be mad and affected and impact the team.
Hate to hear this. Hope he tells them to stick it where the Sun don’t shine
If someone will give him a hundred grand, probably someone out there give him 250,000. If I am Ace, I tell MD, that is a good starting point, but you should see what Mr. Ruiz down in Miami offered. BUT, I do like the DMV area and have family, so if you can nudge it up to 225,000 lets make a deal!
I guess a bribe is not really a bribe if it is legal, but man that sure looks like a bribe to me. Shady used car salesmanesque characters offering blood money to college kids to play for their favorite team. This is all going to backfire at some point and people will look back and say man that NIL idea sure wasn't thought through very well.
But if I'm a 20 year old kid and someone offers me 100K to play for them, I'm listening hard.
Hope he takes it. It seems someone would offer Tyler a big chunk to play his final year somewhere. Mooney won’t come off some of his $25,000,000.00 to keep him.
that's not blood money. that's good clean money that someone who has too much wants to give me ... to play basketball at a great school in a P5 conference. I'm supposed to turn that down to stay at VCU? lol.
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It could be argued it is all blood money.
But your last sentence is what Plydogg meant. If someone offered Plydogg a million dollars to go to a P5 school for 4 years (not as an athlete) instead of VCU, he would tell them to stick it. 🤣
The combination of the transfer portal and NIL is what is problematic. Especially for mid-majors like ourselves. Take VCU and Ace for example. Lets just assume the rumor is true and Maryland wants him and has a 100K NIL deal for him. I doubt VCU has the NIL pockets to compete with that. AND - he can now transfer and play right away. I would not fault a kid for grabbing a 100K in college. Especially when all these kids getting NIL money, in any sport are not all going pro. So they might as well get some money while they can. But the big schools with the deep pockets can afford it and are willing to win some and lose some on guys - because at some point, they will get a good return.
problematic for schools, but not for the kids.
and that's where the pendulum has swung. to their benefit.
You’re damn right. I would tell them to stick it right into my bank account 😉
I haven’t quite been sure how to tell you guys this, but TheSabre.com has offered me a fairly lucrative NIL to post over next year. I don’t know a lot about i64w sports these days, but I’m going to have to take some time to seriously consider this.
#RespectMyDecision
#RespectMyDecision
I bet Ace will become a Republican when MD 1099’s him and he owes the government $50,000 in taxes after he already spent the $100,000 . 😂
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
Agreed - and I have no problem with kids finally getting the benefit. Coaches, including our own - have been able to break contracts, get up and leave whenever they want for little to no penalty (usually a buyout is paid by your new school). Meanwhile - a kid wanted to transfer had to sit out a year or and be limited in their choices. Not to mention - they could make no money on the side, which any normal student can do and sometimes - are encouraged to do so.
I have no issue with kids getting the benefit - but we just need to realize what college sports, at the P6 levels has turned into - minor leaugues. It is not student-athlete, but rather an athlete who will attend classes, when available.
Right, when is the last time you have heard of a player being academically ineligible? Almost never. 15 years ago this happened. Not now. You are going to give a kid (Miami U) 400,000 to help your team and then sit him out for a D? It is an interesting crossroads. Per the Ace example, this is where I think the P6 will just keep separating themselves from the lower leagues. Maybe a VCU booster steps up, but now you are being courted by a top league AND more money. Hard to compete with.
Exactly - mid-majors might become a proving ground for P6, so your hope is maybe you find a kid or two the big schools passed on, and maybe you get 2 good years out of them before they transfer up. And if your a coach constantly doing that - maybe you try to move up with them when you get the chance.
I am curious if Rhoades comes up for any job openings, especially if VCU wins a game or two in the tourney this year. This will be his 3rd NCAA tourney since he took over VCU, with the only thing absent on his resume is winning in the tourney. So I wonder if just a win or run to the sweet 16 makes his name pop up on searches.
I am curious if Rhoades comes up for any job openings, especially if VCU wins a game or two in the tourney this year. This will be his 3rd NCAA tourney since he took over VCU, with the only thing absent on his resume is winning in the tourney. So I wonder if just a win or run to the sweet 16 makes his name pop up on searches.
Rhoades, I have seen mentioned for Georgetown and GA Tech so far:
www.ajc.com
Six coaching candidates Georgia Tech could consider
As he conducts his search for Georgia Tech’s next men’s basketball coach, athletic director J Batt may not stay inside the box. Prior to his hire at Tech, Batt was involved in coaching hires at Alabama as a membership of the executive leadership team, including the 2019 hire of Nate Oats to...
Rhoades, I have seen mentioned for Georgetown and GA Tech so far:
Six coaching candidates Georgia Tech could consider
As he conducts his search for Georgia Tech’s next men’s basketball coach, athletic director J Batt may not stay inside the box. Prior to his hire at Tech, Batt was involved in coaching hires at Alabama as a membership of the executive leadership team, including the 2019 hire of Nate Oats to...
GA Tech hired Damon Stoudamire on Monday. They moved fast. Kind of an interesting hire imo but we’ll see. They r paying a buyout for firing Pastner but if u look at their bball & football hires they look like they wanted to avoid paying buyouts for their new coaches.
Feels like the former NBA player-to-college-head-coach train jumped the tracks awhile ago. I think Stoudamire has college coaching experience already? Too lazy to look. But I feel like the Avery Johnson/Patrick Ewing type hires are just not working. Even Juan Howard these days.
Ah, forgot I did see that about Ga tech. I do agree that if they upset St. Mary's and then maybe one more he could be a hot name. And if he leaves, they will hire a good coach, and may be even better than they have been with Rhoades.
8legs1dream
Graduate Assistant
hiring a new coach? never heard of it
He was the head coach at the University of the Pacific in Stockton, Calif. Had middling success.
I would prefer to have Rhodes stay at VCU. If they're going to beat us every year I'd rather it be with a coach like him at the helm than someone obnoxious who encourages similar behavior from his players and the fans.
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