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An embarrassing 8-22 season

It’s another reason to expand ncaa tourney. Those r basically all dead even NIT. Just cut NIT and expand. The portal opens March 24. Teams will continue to opt out of NIT.

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I liked the NIT when it had the eligibility rules of if you win your regular season conference title, you get an auto bid to NIT. This gave lower level teams who won their league, but lose in the conference tourney - a good post-season to play in and you usually had a good number of P5 programs play in it as well. Plus - you had the carrot of playing in MSG for the final four, which is a good thing.

NOW - it has changed and as usual - is skewed to the P5 programs. For this year - two top Non NCAA teams from the ACC and SEC get auto bids. Then the top remaining team from the next 12 conferences (rated by KenPon). So I don't see P5 teams backing out this year because they have agreed to this setup. But you could see players opt out for their teams. If your a kid looking to transfer - why play in the NIT, get in the portal - get the process started and move on.

But even if you got rid of the NIT - still not in favor of expansion. Like I said before (stolen from Jay Bilas) - the tourney is already expanded. Everyone in their conference tourney is in a play-in game. Look at last night. Delaware - a 12 seed in CAA and overall
16-19 record made it to the CAA finals before losing to UNCW. That was their play in games. They had a chance and lost. So to me - expansion is not needed. We already have it.
 
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I liked the NIT when it had the eligibility rules of if you win your regular season conference title, you get an auto bid to NIT. This gave lower level teams who won their league, but lose in the conference tourney - a good post-season to play in and you usually had a good number of P5 programs play in it as well. Plus - you had the carrot of playing in MSG for the final four, which is a good thing.

NOW - it has changed and as usual - is skewed to the P5 programs. For this year - two top Non NCAA teams from the ACC and SEC get auto bids. Then the top remaining team from the next 12 conferences (rated by KenPon). So I don't see P5 teams backing out this year because they have agreed to this setup. But you could see players opt out for their teams. If your a kid looking to transfer - why play in the NIT, get in the portal - get the process started and move on.

But even if you got rid of the NIT - still not in favor of expansion. Like I said before (stolen from Jay Bilas) - the tourney is already expanded. Everyone in their conference tourney is in a play-in game. Look at last night. Delaware - a 12 seed in CAA and overall
16-19 record made it to the CAA finals before losing to UNCW. That was their play in games. They had a chance and lost. So to me - expansion is not needed. We already have it.

Trap the NIT rules were same last year & u said exact same thing. U said there would be collusion of p5 teams to play in NIT. I said watch there will be tons of opt outs. R we doing this again? I don’t think u get it. It’s not skewed to p5 bc they mostly opt out. That rule was put in place just so NIT could hopefully get some p5s bc they knew so many opt outs. It wasn’t pushed by p5 it was pushed by nit/ncaa. Trying to get some eyeballs on it. I don’t mind that rule bc u want a few bigger teams but there r not going to be too many. Fact is it’s more open to teams on Richmond level. Very evident. And the elimination of low major winning the league rule helps us too. Whether u like that rule or not, it helps Richmond…in years we actually have a chance.
 
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I liked the NIT when it had the eligibility rules of if you win your regular season conference title, you get an auto bid to NIT. This gave lower level teams who won their league, but lose in the conference tourney - a good post-season to play in and you usually had a good number of P5 programs play in it as well. Plus - you had the carrot of playing in MSG for the final four, which is a good thing.

NOW - it has changed and as usual - is skewed to the P5 programs. For this year - two top Non NCAA teams from the ACC and SEC get auto bids. Then the top remaining team from the next 12 conferences (rated by KenPon). So I don't see P5 teams backing out this year because they have agreed to this setup. But you could see players opt out for their teams. If your a kid looking to transfer - why play in the NIT, get in the portal - get the process started and move on.

But even if you got rid of the NIT - still not in favor of expansion. Like I said before (stolen from Jay Bilas) - the tourney is already expanded. Everyone in their conference tourney is in a play-in game. Look at last night. Delaware - a 12 seed in CAA and overall
16-19 record made it to the CAA finals before losing to UNCW. That was their play in games. They had a chance and lost. So to me - expansion is not needed. We already have it.

That's the way I would look at it realistically. At least the A-10 invites everyone so everyone, no matter how bad you were, has a chance.
 
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But even if you got rid of the NIT - still not in favor of expansion. Like I said before (stolen from Jay Bilas) - the tourney is already expanded. Everyone in their conference tourney is in a play-in game. Look at last night. Delaware - a 12 seed in CAA and overall
16-19 record made it to the CAA finals before losing to UNCW. That was their play in games. They had a chance and lost. So to me - expansion is not needed. We already have it.
yeah, but nobody saw it. nobody talked about it. nobody filled out a bracket. if the tree falls but nobody hears it, did it make a sound?
the smaller conference tournaments have no where near the same impact as making March Madness.

we're already past 64 teams. I'm all for expanding the play-in games.
 
yeah, but nobody saw it. nobody talked about it. nobody filled out a bracket. if the tree falls but nobody hears it, did it make a sound?
the smaller conference tournaments have no where near the same impact as making March Madness.

we're already past 64 teams. I'm all for expanding the play-in games.
Nobody is watching the 98 plays 99 play in game to see who plays the 11th ranked team from the SEC. And to think by expanding that more mid-majors will get an opportunity is crazy. You expand - your just letting 19-12 Standford, 17-15 Florida State, 18-14 Cincy, 17-14 Nebraska, and other low end P5 programs get into the tourney and mid-majors and lower conference teams will be pushed further down in seeding. Your chances of the cinderella stories will practically disappear because of the amount of games and teams mids will have to play.
 
Nobody is watching the 98 plays 99 play in game to see who plays the 11th ranked team from the SEC. And to think by expanding that more mid-majors will get an opportunity is crazy. You expand - your just letting 19-12 Standford, 17-15 Florida State, 18-14 Cincy, 17-14 Nebraska, and other low end P5 programs get into the tourney and mid-majors and lower conference teams will be pushed further down in seeding. Your chances of the cinderella stories will practically disappear because of the amount of games and teams mids will have to play.
It should at least be 72. Bottom two AQ and bottom two at-large in each of the four regions as play in.

With 96, it would be 16vs17 in each region to play 1, or 24v9 to play 8.
 
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