A little Tinkle?

[fatherspider]

Watching the rise of Oregon State this year under 1st year coach Tinkle shows what a quality hire with a proven track record can do.
Tinkle was a no brainer hire... He was going to do a good job as evidence by what he did at Montana.
For those who keep saying "be careful what you wish for" when replacing mooney are unwarrented if the AD looks for guys like Tinkle who have alreadyvshown a great talent for coaching and winning. Its a near guarantee of success.

 

[64Spider]

Problem is that Tinkle is gonna wet the bed today.

 

[32counter]

No doubt a good coach.At 19-12 and a 7seed seems a little rich.Having a strong PAC12 helps.Having senior Gary Payton 2 doesn't hurt either.Good DNA goes a long way.We've seen that in spades with TJ.

 

[spider23]

Problem is that Tinkle is gonna wet the bed today.

True. This OSU team looks terrible. I guess they are missing a player.

 

[Eight Legger]

Yeah, they are missing Little Tinkle, the coach's son. This was a predictable outcome, or at least it seems headed that way.

 

[fatherspider]

Point is not if they win this one game, point is a first year coach has taken osu to its first ncaa season in 26 years. It was predictable since he has led Montana to three straight big sky championships and is a winner. He will likely continue that winning trend at OSU. If we were to replace C M with coach with similar past success it would not be a risky hire. These guys slmost always work out.

 

[97spiderfan]

I agree but still bad timing when they are getting beat by you know who.

 

[SpiderRick]

I agree but still bad timing when they are getting beat by you know who.

Please change your avatar, I like reading your posts.

 

[WebSpinner]

would suggest father that it works out some of the time not most of the time. still a gamble but if you feel the gamble is worth it, then go for it, as long as you are paying

 

[8legs]

OSU is not that good.

 

[spider23]

I do agree with hiring a coach that has been successful as a head coach. Of course Dick Tarrant worked out ok for us as an assistant hire, but for the most part like to see guys who have done it as head coaches. Let's just keep recruiting like we did in 2016 (and land Wesson too) and the start in 2017 and commit to examining all parts of the program and we will be OK.

 

[32counter]

Without Payton,who among others,was a Robinson recruit,Beavers would be playing in the CBI,maybe.

Cal which was a 4 seed also lost from PAC12.USC which was an 8 seed lost to Friars.
Overrated conference.

 

[fatherspider]

Jeez u just cant make a point on here without it being misconstrued.

The point is that Tinkle took the team to the ncaa in year 1 when robinson couldnt do it ever even w peyton. And the guy will likely continue being successful since his run at Montana was very successful. No Oregon State isnt very good but that wasnt the point. If you hire a guy with a successful past it typically carries over to the next job. That was the point.

 

[WebSpinner]

vdu has hired how many assistant coaches in a row who have worked out just fine and to the point of them leaving for better jobs. many ways to find a coach and not any one way is foolproof. tinkle had a good run, made the dance, somehow, but does not guarantee that he will continue that and am sure vegas would take your money on that bet. understand what you are saying but feel that you go a tad overboard on your thoughts, not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[32counter]

Jeez u just cant make a point on hear without it being misconstrued.

The point is that Tinkle took the team to the ncaa in year 1 when robinson couldnt do it ever even w peyton. And the guy will likely continue being successful since his run at Montana was very successful. No Oregon State isnt very good but that wasnt the point. If you hire a guy with a successful past it typically carries over to the next job. That was the point.

Just playing with you father.Get what your saying.But way too early on Tinkle verdict.Let's see how he does down the road.You are giving Tinkle a lovefest just as we did with Mooney after a 1st round loss in 2010 and a sweet-sixteen appearance in 2011.Robinson didn't leave the cupboard bare for Tinkle when he got axed.By the way,is Tinkle this guy's real name.Mooney was successful at Air Force and inexpensive That's why he was hired by Miller plus and more importantly,his Ivy pedigree.

I don't mean to misconscrew anything you write.

 

[urmite]

vdu has hired how many assistant coaches in a row who have worked out just fine and to the point of them leaving for better jobs. many ways to find a coach and not any one way is foolproof. tinkle had a good run, made the dance, somehow, but does not guarantee that he will continue that and am sure vegas would take your money on that bet. understand what you are saying but feel that you go a tad overboard on your thoughts, not that there is anything wrong with that.

A tad overboard? I agree. But on this board he has plenty of company including me.

 

[fatherspider]

Just playing with you father.Get what your saying.But way too early on Tinkle verdict.Let's see how he does down the road.You are giving Tinkle a lovefest just as we did with Mooney after a 1st round loss in 2010 and a sweet-sixteen appearance in 2011.Robinson didn't leave the cupboard bare for Tinkle when he got axed.By the way,is Tinkle this guy's real name.Mooney was successful at Air Force and inexpensive That's why he was hired by Miller plus and more importantly,his Ivy pedigree.

I don't mean to misconscrew anything you write.

Mooney didnt have near the success at Air force Tinkle had at Montana. He coached one year at AF and was 18-12. Tinkle made ncaa three out of four years at Montana and was 19-1 in Big Sky his last year.
And Tinkle is just an example. Hiring a coach who has succeeded for a period of time at lower level is a safe bet to continue that success. Thats all and I really hope UR can find one.

 

[WebSpinner]

are you saying we are looking? would suggest it is not even a safe bet but we can beg to differ.

 

[iSpider]

are you saying we are looking? would suggest it is not even a safe bet but we can beg to differ.

In a two-way conversation, only one person can beg to differ.

 

[32counter]

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[Wood Hall]

Tinkle is a second-year coach, not a first year Beaver. And while Robinson did leave some scholarship players behind, none had played a major role on his last team (2014). OSU had seven walk-ons last season but still went 17-14 (or 17-15, I forget), Tinkle did a great job.

After Robinson was fired, Tinkle also had to re-recruit Payton II, who was not highly-regarded coming out of JC and was seen as more of a feel-good legacy scholarship that the standout player he turned into.

That said, he's an outstanding coach. And the OSU team that lost to VCU by eight points was missing Tres Tinkle, its second-best player, a banger/3-point shooter who averaged about 15 and 8 after he became a starter 2/3 of the way through the season.

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[fatherspider]

Tinkle is a second-year coach, not a first year Beaver. And while Robinson did leave some scholarship players behind, none had played a major role on his last team (2014). OSU had seven walk-ons last season but still went 17-14 (or 17-15, I forget), Tinkle did a great job.

After Robinson was fired, Tinkle also had to re-recruit Payton II, who was not highly-regarded coming out of JC and was seen as more of a feel-good legacy scholarship that the standout player he turned into.

That said, he's an outstanding coach. And the OSU team that lost to VCU by eight points was missing Tres Tinkle, its second-best player, a banger/3-point shooter who averaged about 15 and 8 after he became a starter 2/3 of the way through the season.

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Id offer Brad Underwood right now to coach the Spiders. 58-1 in conference play last three years and wins games in tourney as a 14 seed. This would be a risk free hire. He would be very successful where ever he goes.

 

[wr70beh]

Id offer Brad Underwood right now to coach the Spiders. 58-1 in conference play last three years and wins games in tourney as a 14 seed. This would be a risk free hire. He would be very successful where ever he goes.

He'd jump straight to an SEC or Big XII school down on its luck before coming here. He's that good.

 

[KWeaver]

He'd jump straight to an SEC or Big XII school down on its luck before coming here. He's that good.

Mentioned in another thread that Gary Parrish and co. were suggesting St. Louis as a great destination for him. Yuck. Would love to have him. But would love the talent of Walkup, too. Love that guy.

 

[fatherspider]

He'd jump straight to an SEC or Big XII school down on its luck before coming here. He's that good.

Underwood to Ok state. Only way to have a great program is for us to find one of these proven coaches. He's getting paid about the same as Mooney. I know we wouldnt have gotten him but we need to be looking hard. These guys are risk free

 

[MrTbone]

Underwood to Ok state. Only way to have a great program is for us to find one of these proven coaches. He's getting paid about the same as Mooney. I know we wouldnt have gotten him but we need to be looking hard. These guys are risk free

Nobody is risk free.

 

[keefusb]

More like those guys are low risk as opposed to no risk. Not long ago, Josh Pastner was on the hot seat at Memphis. If we needed a coach and he was available, he's a guy I would take in a skinny minute. Great recruiter, decent x's and o's guy, young and well-spoken.

 

[spiderman]

More like those guys are low risk as opposed to no risk. Not long ago, Josh Pastner was on the hot seat at Memphis. If we needed a coach and he was available, he's a guy I would take in a skinny minute. Great recruiter, decent x's and o's guy, young and well-spoken.

yeah, and the Memphis faithful are calling for his head. he's losing the recruiting battles, and losing games. I think he's good, too. so is Alford. good coaches don't always win.

 

[spider23]

Pastner is a guy that brought in all kinds of talent and top recruiting classes at Memphis, but has not advanced in the tourney. Has had a slew of transfers and failure to develop guys.

 

[fatherspider]

yeah, and the Memphis faithful are calling for his head. he's losing the recruiting battles, and losing games. I think he's good, too. so is Alford. good coaches don't always win.

So you hire the ones that do. Its not that hard. I guarantee ok state will be a serious contender in two or three years. U can disagree but guys like underwood are winners. That much success doesnt happen by accident. Just like Marshall at Winthrop, u knew he would succeed anywhere he went.

 

[fatherspider]

Pastner is a guy that brought in all kinds of talent and top recruiting classes at Memphis, but has not advanced in the tourney. Has had a slew of transfers and failure to develop guys.

Pastner doesn't fit the mold we are discussing. He didnt have a track record of success before becoming a hc. guys who win, will keep winning, it has been proven over and over again.

 

[spiderman]

Jerry Wainwright was winning a lot of games at UNCW a while ago.

 

[kneepadmckinney]

Let's set the record on Tinkle: he's a good coach who was successful in a lower conference. But let's also not underestimate that he had a top-recruit son and an assistant coach in Stevie Thompson who also had a top recruit son. So Oregon State made both a good and strategic hire, because they got a coach, an assistant coach, and two strong freshman out of the deal.

But let's wait to see how Tinkle does once his son graduates.

 

[mcspider]

And as coach's kids, wouldn't they most likely not have to take up a scholarship? That creates a lot of options having two extra ones at your disposal.

 

[fatherspider]

Let's set the record on Tinkle: he's a good coach who was successful in a lower conference. But let's also not underestimate that he had a top-recruit son and an assistant coach in Stevie Thompson who also had a top recruit son. So Oregon State made both a good and strategic hire, because they got a coach, an assistant coach, and two strong freshman out of the deal.

But let's wait to see how Tinkle does once his son graduates.

The guy will still kick butt. Was his son playing for him when he was winning championships at Montana? He must of had other good players there. Crazy point since he still has to coach the kid.