We might need those games now in order to pay our athletes. We all know this money is not coming out of the endowment and will need to be all private funded. I have a hard time believe UR hoops can get $3 million for the men - and lets assume $1 million for the women on annual basis in donations JUST for paying the athletes.
I agree with you guys, that is the way legit inspired basketball programs operate. Heck, I remember Dutcher's second season at SDSU - he followed up NCAA in his first season with a 21-13 record missing NCAAs. After the season saw an interview with Dutcher saying let the program down, and was working to fix it. I was quite surprised, but that is what leadership and expectations look like. We make excuses at Richmond Basketball Inc.
Agree wholeheartedly.
I'm with u....only a season Tix holder for 30 yrs and I'm done until there'/ appears to be more of a commitment..I will watch the men on ESPN+ but likely will attend very few games in the future...that said, roussell and the ladies have my full support!!!
Hardt may go on Bob Black AM afternoon radio show in April and express "disappointment" in the results this year but will be working with Mooney to make sure Spider basketball is more competitive going forward. Or Bob can just replay his interview from 2 years ago and 4 years ago where he said the exact same thing.
I too was a 30 year season tickets holder but gave it up 2 years ago. Haven't set foot in the RC this year. Administration doesn't care about winning, so why should we? By the way, it's pointless for UR to opt in to House settlement while keeping the current coach. It's just pissing good money away in my opinion. The entire program is a clown show and soft as a stick of butter.
Maybe someone can explain why this settlement is good for the vast majority of mid-major level programs. The premise is that this is “revenue sharing”. But most of the commentary I see says that the institutions are going to have to raise more funds to be able to support the payment of the athletes. Something does not add up here.
Because if everyone else is doing it and you’re the odd one out, then you’ll be at the bottom of level and play and accomplishment.
Not one bit.
I completely agree with you sman. To me these remarks are just platitudes. I brought it up because one of the criticisms of Mooney is how he conducts his post-game speeches and seemingly complacent attitude. While it might be nice to see some fire at times, to me this "I'm fired up and holding my self accountable" speech can only work so many times. At some point, actions speak louder than words. There are high expectations of Wes at a program like Cincinnati that has great history in basketball and is now in B12. He is on his 4th year and if I were a fan, hearing his response would do nothing for me either.
Some coaches are just better built for mid major programs. I think Wes could be very successful at a program like Richmond. Me pointing out his speech last night was not meant to knock him anyway. I respect his passion and think that can translate well in other ways. He hasn't found the success yet at Cincinnati but he is a heck of a recruiter and I am sure his practices are intense and meant to bring the best out of his players. B12 is a hard place to coach and has been the best or 2nd best conference in the country for awhile now in my opinion. If we were to have an opening and if Wes were to be fired, I would definitely consider him. Doubt he would want to come here though or if our AD/University would want to hire someone from a large, public university so this is all hypothetical and unrealistic anyway.
Taking personal responsibility and accountability for failures is Leadership 101. If a leader can't do this that is a fatal flaw, that person is not a good leader; they likely have difficulty garnering the full respect and trust of those they are charged with leading and or other stakeholders of whatever entity they are leading.
LOL.
Maybe not.
Mooney didn't put a good product on the floor this year. that's separate and indisputable.
I like Miller more than Mooney. Mooney never says anything. Never acknowledges VCU kicks his ass. Mooney is the biggest excuse maker. Mooney should have went to a power conference after 2011-12 but was scared and knew he was out of his league. I just wish we had some local media that could ask him a tlugh question once in a while. I guess JB and Tarrant were just complete aberrations and mediocre mooney is the best we can do with PQ and admin holding us back?
Why does taking responsibility and accountability like that need to be a public spectacle? I am not saying it’s bad that Wes did that, but to me it does not have more of an impact if it was done this way vs. behind closed doors. He’s done this a couple other times too this year - not to that extent - that I’ve seen since I like to follow college hoops in general. He can take personal accountability all he wants but at some point the words become hollow and it’s the lack of results that speak louder than anything he is saying.
Why not? Works for some programs and not for others. I’m sure Marquette was glad they gave Shaka another shot at a lower level compared to Big 12 where Texas was at the time. I agree that our first priority should be an upcoming head coach from a lower level program, but I won’t close the door on giving coaches a second chance if they failed at a good program in P5, especially in a difficult conference like Big 12.
When Mooney made a comment about how we are one of the top programs in the nation over the summer, he was lambasted here, rather than praised for his confidence and high expectations of our program. Again, not saying comments of self accountability that Wes made is a bad thing. I just wouldn’t hold it against Mooney as if that means he doesn’t care or hold himself accountable as much as Wes does just because it isn’t stated publicly.
You didn't answer, but I'm going to assume you agree that after going 7-11 or worse in conference 3 out of 4 years, Miller's "accountability speech" wouldn't make you feel better about how his season is going or about Wes Miller as a coach.
Well Mooney is kind of late to believe him. I would rather he took some kind of accountability a long time ago.
Didn’t happen, not going to happen, and overdue to just move on from him. The CM years keep adding on.
Exactly. For Mooney, it’ll be a “damned if you do. Damned if you don’t” kind of situation.
Right. I just don't get the belief Mooney is all full of fire and passion in private with the team but in public he has all the personality of your local librarian. And if that is the case, if you are a player, that disconnect just doesn't even make sense.
