I support you SBM, you have never struck me as anything other than a Spider fan, certainly not a VCU fan.
What is spider fan by marriage? It's not something you get with a piece of paper. You're either a spider fan or you're not. You support the spiders especially against arch rivals, you're a spider fan. For instance: if you are a Hippie fan above all others, with UR being a second choice, I’m not sure that qualifies as a spider fan, what does the board think?
Now say you're a UCLA fan first and foremost, but UR is closer and you support UR in all games except on the rare chance we play UCLA, I'd think that does qualify as a spider fan, what say the board?
Man are you hoping to get a job writing Obits or Editorials! Please find a wait to make your points short and concise. Thank you!Interesting coincidence that you should make the comparison of being a VCU fan to being a UCLA fan. Having attended a large state university after graduating from UR, and having taught at another large state university for a year, one of which was located in a small town and the other in a much larger city, I cannot emphasize enough what I consider the importance of increasing a loyal fan base through the interest of non-alumni regardless of where they went to school, even if VCU. Maybe especially if they went to VCU. Do you think for even a moment that only grads and students fill the seats of a 60,000 to 80,000 stadium? If you do, you are dead wrong, at least based upon my experience. Most of the fans at these games are locals (by locals I mean with an hour or two drive of the school) and have no connection with the university other than having adopted it as their team. That is true in Charlottesville and Blacksburg as well.
I also happen to believe that SpiderByMarriage is a good Spider fan. I have never noticed anything in his posts that would make me think otherwise. Perhaps I have missed the things which lead you to reach a different conclusion. Maybe you know him outside of this board. I acknowledge that possibility especially since I tend to steer away from posts about VCU other than during the basketball season.
Your reference to Hippies dates you. You must be a OSC member like the Ulla. Maybe there was something that occurred back in those days of which I am unaware. Maybe VCU was different back then. Maybe you and SBM are friends outside of this board and you are just jerking his chain. Fair enough if either of those circumstances apply. You should then disregard a good part of this post.
The fact that SBM may have attended VCU (which he denies, and I believe him) and even if he were a VCU grad and pulls for them when they play UR that would be fine with me. I would be more disappointed if he didn't pull for for VCU were he a grad. I appreciate and respect loyalty to one's alma mater. As to UCLA as opposed to VCU, I just happen to have a close personal friend who now teaches at VCU Medical. It just so happens that he transferred from UCLA Medical to VCU Medical two years ago (wife from Virginia, her family here, his now in Spain, she also a physician, but now growing a family), and though he is a Cornell grad, he was a great UCLA fan, and he is now a great VCU fan. We need more fans like him. That said, I am pretty sure that Cornell does not compete very often with UCLA, at least with respect to any revenue sport. But so what? What difference does that make? To my knowledge, no one has ever questioned that my friend was a fan at either school because he attended another university for his undergraduate degree because I believe that they find it irrelevant.
I think that it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever which school SBM attended. If he is a BB fan of UR for all but two games a year, I would still consider him a good Spider fan. I pull for UVA as well as UR because of many family ties to that school including a father who both attended and taught there, a brother and a wife who attended there and several very close friends who went there for their undergraduate degree. I post on the Sabre, though not nearly as much as on this board. I have many friends here in the Richmond Metropolitan Area who are die hard UVA fans and because of that and our friendship I am invited to three or four UVA games each year, on average, and I when I go with them to a UVA game (mostly football) I tailgate and root like hell for the Hoos...except when they play UR. I have even attended a UVA/UR game with them (seats on the fifty yard line, reserved tailgating space within 40 to 50 yards of the side of the stadium we sit on, other amenities) and cheered like hell for the Spiders while sitting amongst their midst. Not one of them, not even at the UR/UVA game, nor anyone who they have introduced me to who are also die hard UVA fans and knows that I attended UR undergrad, has ever questioned that I was less than a good UVA fan even when sitting with them and cheering my butt off for the Spiders. We may not be arch rivals with UVA in any revenue sport, but tell that you wouldn’t trade a football victory over UVA for two or three losses in one season to VCU.
On the other hand, I also happen to have a close personal friend who attended UR undergrad and happened to find employment in Charlottesville after he graduated. He could care less about the Spiders and has not attended a UR game in five or six years despite my constant urging him to drive east on I-64 for an hour or so and providing him, his wife and kids with a free place to stay and eat. Is he not a good UVA fan? To me, despite the fact that he attended UR for his undergraduate work, he is a great UVA fan. On the other hand, he is a lousy UR fan. Maybe worse than lousy in his case, though he is still a great friend.
The VCU/UCLA comparison is really not a fair comparison because VCU is still a very young institution just building a tradition whereas UCLA is steeped in tradition having numerous national championships over the last hundred plus years. The fact that SBM may have attended our arch rival and not UCLA is irrelevant to me. I'd trade a win over UCLA for a loss to VCU in most any year.
But that’s just me.
I notice, but do not understand, the venom directed at VCU by several posters on this board even when there is no game at hand. That is certainly their right, but at times it almost becomes embarrassing to me because the only motive I know of that causes such anger is rooted in envy, jealousy, insecurity or self-esteem issues. But maybe I just don’t understand. It must be that.
In any event, please don’t get me wrong. The teams I would rather beat than VCU are few and far between, and when we play them I want to beat them to the point that they find it embarrassing. The difference with me, however, is that after the game, and maybe after a day or two of gloating when we win, I tend to revert to regarding them as any other large state school; they have some advantages and disadvantages compared to UR. They are no different to me in that regard than UVA or VATech. I guess I need some OSC member to help me understand the error of my ways. Maybe I just don't get it.
SpiderK, I think you and I would get along really well in person. I love your posts and your humor.iSpider, Duke and UNC fans smoke tobaccy together year round. Jets and Patriots fans hold hands at a pub nightly. Louisville and Kentucky fans sing koombayah together daily and UR and VCU fans throw frisbee together at Monroe Park every evening. "Love is in the air" "Unicorns farting Rainbows"
Can't you just "Feel the Bern" ?
iSpider, Duke and UNC fans smoke tobaccy together year round. Jets and Patriots fans hold hands at a pub nightly. Louisville and Kentucky fans sing koombayah together daily and UR and VCU fans throw frisbee together at Monroe Park every evening. "Love is in the air" "Unicorns farting Rainbows"
Can't you just "Feel the Bern" ?
I'm married to a Spider, live in the area, attend games and watch pretty much every game I don't attend on TV. My alma mater is DIII, so there's no other rooting interest -- I'm all in. And I root against VCU at all times. Ulla has made a number of personal attacks on me, because he seems to think that anyone who disagrees with him on any topic must be a VCU lover. If we really need "the board's" vote on whether I or anyone else is a real fan, this board has sunk lower than I thought it had.
Man are you hoping to get a job writing Obits or Editorials! Please find a wait to make your points short and concise. Thank you!
I reread my post and agree with your conclusion. I would also have added "succinct" to your suggestions. My bad, especially since writing is a large part of my job, though not obits or editorials.
So let me try to see how I might change that in this response to your well taken suggestions.
How's this?: F*ck off.
Just kidding, of course. I really do agree with your comments and those of the moderator and take no offense. As a linguaphile, I am especially embarrassed.
Though not an excuse, but rather as an explanation, I offer that when I ramble on and on as I did in the post to which you refer, Mr.Jameson and/or Mr. Dewars play a large role.
I'll try to do better from now on.
I'll take some of each right now. Thanks.Today's lesson: Scotch is WHISKY....American and Irish blends are WHISKEY
The difference between whiskey and whisky is simple but important: whisky usually denotes Scotch whisky and Scotch-inspired liquors, andwhiskey denotes the Irish and American liquors.
The word itself (both spellings) is of Celtic origin, and modern whisky/whiskey distillation practices originated in Ireland and Scotland. Using whiskeyto refer to Scotch whisky can get you in trouble in Scotland.