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[SFspidur]

We struggle with them even when we're good. Who wants us after the season we just had and uncertainty about whether we'll be any better next year?

Am I thrilled about it? Certainly not. But it's a step up from last year and probably about the best we could hope for. Maybe if we had a longer-tenured coach with more connections who everybody spoke nicely of, we'd have a chance but...

 

[MrTbone]

Southern Illinois and Charlotte (who we may not play) will do better with their NET this year same way we will. Right now I see potential for 4 teams we play (or might play) to be below 135 in NET. Not great but relative to last year, will definitely say better.

Hold on a second. “Will do better with their NET this year same way we will.”

What’re you basing that on? Objectively, there is zero evidence that we will be better. You can of course project or hope we will be, but we are replacing at least 3 starters on a terrible team with guys who may or may not perform better.

And who even knows about SIU or UNCC unless you’re just basing the whole thing on “it can’t get any worse”.

I’m hopeful next season looks better but there’s definitely no guarantees.

 

[MrTbone]

We struggle with them even when we're good. Who wants us after the season we just had and uncertainty about whether we'll be any better next year?

Am I thrilled about it? Certainly not. But it's a step up from last year and probably about the best we could hope for. Maybe if we had a longer-tenured coach with more connections who everybody spoke nicely of, we'd have a chance but...

It’s truly amazing this is the bar that’s been set.

 

[spiderstudent17]

Hold on a second. “Will do better with their NET this year same way we will.”

What’re you basing that on? Objectively, there is zero evidence that we will be better. You can of course project or hope we will be, but we are replacing at least 3 starters on a terrible team with guys who may or may not perform better.

And who even knows about SIU or UNCC unless you’re just basing the whole thing on “it can’t get any worse”.

I’m hopeful next season looks better but there’s definitely no guarantees.

Our NET was 253 and we won 8 D1 games. Our worst record for the past 20 years or so. I would be shocked if we were as bad as last years team. I suspect there will be some regression to the mean. Why are you saying that replacing 3 starters on a bad team is a bad thing? Who cares they were starters. Replacing them won’t mean we will be worse, but in fact could mean better in this case.

I expect the same thing with So Illinois, Illinois State, and Charlotte. Keep in mind this improvement is relative to how bad they were last year and regression towards their mean. I don’t think they will suddenly become a top 100 NET game.

You’re right it’s not a guarantee, but there’s much more potential this year to have overall better quality games than last year. We have 5 or so remaining games left to schedule. We need a couple P5 match ups and no more absolutely awful teams that are 300+ in NET. Or D2 games.

 

[Eight Legger]

This is a defining year for New Era Mooney. Two years ago he caught lightning in a bottle with King and happened to have a few quality retuning seniors at the same time. It worked. Last year, disaster.

Now we're fully into the NIL era in a way that we really weren't even two years ago. So can he adapt and build a roster on the fly every year, showing that last year was the anomaly? Or was the anomaly two years ago and last year was the new normal?

 

[97spiderfan]

Is anyone really justifying this MTE? It’s crap & embarrassing. Still can’t figure out mte when plenty of others do. This staff is so stale.

Yep. The MTE is our best chance to get to play high caliber programs on a neutral floor and this is the crap we get. Mooney said we are a national program right, but yet we never act like it. Words are cheap, Mooney and yours are worn and tired. And yes this program is stale, the leadership is stale. Our offseason social media consists of wishing our players Happy Birthday because we have literally nothing of note to talk about. Furman, Charlotte, Illinois State is our MTE, embarrassing.

Yeah, we aren't attractive because of what happened last year. Our coaching staff and leadership dug their own damn grave and now we use the fact that they put us there as justification for not doing better this year.

 

[97spiderfan]

Our NET was 253 and we won 8 D1 games. Our worst record for the past 20 years or so. I would be shocked if we were as bad as last years team. I suspect there will be some regression to the mean. Why are you saying that replacing 3 starters on a bad team is a bad thing? Who cares they were starters. Replacing them won’t mean we will be worse, but in fact could mean better in this case.

I expect the same thing with So Illinois, Illinois State, and Charlotte. Keep in mind this improvement is relative to how bad they were last year and regression towards their mean. I don’t think they will suddenly become a top 100 NET game.

You’re right it’s not a guarantee, but there’s much more potential this year to have overall better quality games than last year. We have 5 or so remaining games left to schedule. We need a couple P5 match ups and no more absolutely awful teams that are 300+ in NET. Or D2 games.

It would be literally impossible to be as bad as were last year. We are in the A-10 and so we have a bunch of in conference Quad 2 and some Quad 1 game that shouldn't allow our NET to be that low. Unless, you hit the trifecta of playing a really horrendous OOC, you perform horrendously in said OOC, you follow that up with an equally bad in conference season and sprinkle in some absolute a** kicking to further tank your NET. We did all of that last year. If we are at 253ish next year, Mooney will get fired, even our excuse makers couldn't justify that.

However, say improve 75-100 points in the NET and finish with a net in the 150-175 range. That is still an awful year. Are you going to say well geez look at the improvement, especially in the NIL era where players come and go every year. No, that will be another lost year.

 

[spiderman]

The MTE is our best chance to get to play high caliber programs on a neutral floor and this is the crap we get.

that right there is the huge problem with this MTE. we know we can't get a major to the RC. chances of beating one on the road are pretty slim. so you need one or two shots in an MTE. we get zero.

Yeah, we aren't attractive because of what happened last year. Our coaching staff and leadership dug their own damn grave and now we use the fact that they put us there as justification for not doing better this year.

I'm not buying that we can't schedule better because nobody wants to play a bad team. nobody wanted to play us when we were good either. I don't think last year's record is the problem.

 

[kneepadmckinney]

Our NET was 253 and we won 8 D1 games. Our worst record for the past 20 years or so. I would be shocked if we were as bad as last years team. I suspect there will be some regression to the mean. Why are you saying that replacing 3 starters on a bad team is a bad thing? Who cares they were starters. Replacing them won’t mean we will be worse, but in fact could mean better in this case.

I expect the same thing with So Illinois, Illinois State, and Charlotte. Keep in mind this improvement is relative to how bad they were last year and regression towards their mean. I don’t think they will suddenly become a top 100 NET game.

You’re right it’s not a guarantee, but there’s much more potential this year to have overall better quality games than last year. We have 5 or so remaining games left to schedule. We need a couple P5 match ups and no more absolutely awful teams that are 300+ in NET. Or D2 games.

Meh. We ain't getting an at large, so it's all kind of moot.

 

[spiderstudent17]

It would be literally impossible to be as bad as were last year. We are in the A-10 and so we have a bunch of in conference Quad 2 and some Quad 1 game that shouldn't allow our NET to be that low. Unless, you hit the trifecta of playing a really horrendous OOC, you perform horrendously in said OOC, you follow that up with an equally bad in conference season and sprinkle in some absolute a** kicking to further tank your NET. We did all of that last year. If we are at 253ish next year, Mooney will get fired, even our excuse makers couldn't justify that.

However, say improve 75-100 points in the NET and finish with a net in the 150-175 range. That is still an awful year. Are you going to say well geez look at the improvement, especially in the NIL era where players come and go every year. No, that will be another lost year.

Administration will view that as an improvement. For me, I want to see how we actually play on the court first. I know sports is so statistics and data driven now, but we just looked like a bad team last year. Still, I want us to position ourselves the best way to do well. Our schedule is not great but it doesn’t stink right now either. I wish our MTE was better because that’s usually our best chance to play top teams, but it is what it is. We still have 5 games left to schedule I believe. Definitely need at least 2 solid P5 games and preferably not against Auburn where we will get smoked by 50.

 

[gcarter52]

Yep. The MTE is our best chance to get to play high caliber programs on a neutral floor and this is the crap we get. Mooney said we are a national program right, but yet we never act like it. Words are cheap, Mooney and yours are worn and tired. And yes this program is stale, the leadership is stale. Our offseason social media consists of wishing our players Happy Birthday because we have literally nothing of note to talk about. Furman, Charlotte, Illinois State is our MTE, embarrassing.

Yeah, we aren't attractive because of what happened last year. Our coaching staff and leadership dug their own damn grave and now we use the fact that they put us there as justification for not doing better this year.

Find a rock for me!

 

[GKiller]

Administration will view that as an improvement. For me, I want to see how we actually play on the court first. I know sports is so statistics and data driven now, but we just looked like a bad team last year. Still, I want us to position ourselves the best way to do well. Our schedule is not great but it doesn’t stink right now either. I wish our MTE was better because that’s usually our best chance to play top teams, but it is what it is. We still have 5 games left to schedule I believe. Definitely need at least 2 solid P5 games and preferably not against Auburn where we will get smoked by 50.

would a 100 NET improvement merit an extension for u student17?

Think we have 6 left to schedule. at least 4 of the 6 should be p5. & no need to be afraid of an Auburn that's sad give me all 4 I don't care. LOAD up. it won't happen. there is a better chances at D2 then multiple P5s imo. stale program. stale staff. rather than expectations increasing with a 20 year coach like you'd expect we get the reverse they r actually declining. it's very evident. Used to be attitude of we're planning to go to even more NCAAs. Then it was well 1 in 4 (Philly Bob) now u won't even hear that. Too hard. scheduling too hard. beating vcu too hard. but will have u believe we are "one of the best basketball programs in the nation" yet act like we are CAA. such a huge disconnect. they forget why we moved leagues. new ADs and Pres no appreciation for it either. A mid major only MTE...attaboy Moon. TBone said it well this is the bar that's been set. 20 years this is the best it can be? It's so frustrating to see.

 

[fan2011]

One of the big stated reasons for extensions in the past was for recruiting. It let recruits know the coach was here to stay for their 4 year career. You may give a coach an extension after a decent season so he could recruit good players and the team could improve to get to the “next level”, in theory. Not sure this reason makes sense anymore in the current transfer landscape.

Not sure what Mooney would have to do to earn an extension next season in my mind.

 

[spiderstudent17]

would a 100 NET improvement merit an extension for u student17?

Absolutely not. However, a 100 NET improvement means he won’t be fired after next year either.

Think we have 6 left to schedule. at least 4 of the 6 should be p5. & no need to be afraid of an Auburn that's sad give me all 4 I don't care. LOAD up. it won't happen. there is a better chances at D2 then multiple P5s imo. stale program. stale staff. rather than expectations increasing with a 20 year coach like you'd expect we get the reverse they r actually declining. it's very evident. Used to be attitude of we're planning to go to even more NCAAs. Then it was well 1 in 4 (Philly Bob) now u won't even hear that. Too hard. scheduling too hard. beating vcu too hard. but will have u believe we are "one of the best basketball programs in the nation" yet act like we are CAA. such a huge disconnect. they forget why we moved leagues. new ADs and Pres no appreciation for it either. A mid major only MTE...attaboy Moon. TBone said it well this is the bar that's been set. 20 years this is the best it can be? It's so frustrating to see.

Putting my own opinions of what scheduling should be aside, you make it sound that scheduling all these great teams should be easy. As far as I’ve been following Spider basketball, we’ve always done a pretty solid job of scheduling and playing multiple P5 schools in the past. I doubt the staff just decided to stop wanting to play good teams. P5 want to squeeze out mid majors from getting at large bids and they’ve gamed the system. I think because of that, scheduling has gotten harder to do. I remember we were getting home games against Georgetown, Wake Forest, Boston College, and even Minnesota one year. Now it seems difficult to play them away. Here’s an older video of Mooney responding to Rothstein about scheduling. Still holds true today.

 

[SFspidur]

I had thought there might be games left in the Bucknell series, but apparently not...it was a 2-for-1 and the away game got pushed back a year. So yeah, 6 games left to schedule for next season.

 

[spiderstudent17]

One of the big stated reasons for extensions in the past was for recruiting. It let recruits know the coach was here to stay for their 4 year career. You may give a coach an extension after a decent season so he could recruit good players and the team could improve to get to the “next level”, in theory. Not sure this reason makes sense anymore in the current transfer landscape.

Not sure what Mooney would have to do to earn an extension next season in my mind.

I can see the administration giving an extension only if he wins A10 tournament and/or regular season. Not saying it’s the right move or not, but just answering your question. I think the bar is low though for what admin will consider improvement. So baring another abysmal season, Mooney will probably be here the following season at minimum. I agree with you completely that the narrative of 4 years for recruits doesn’t hold water anymore.

 

[97spiderfan]

I had thought there might be games left in the Bucknell series, but apparently not...it was a 2-for-1 and the away game got pushed back a year. So yeah, 6 games left to schedule for next season.

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Hardt is so lazy. Going back to the well again.

 

[GKiller]

Absolutely not. However, a 100 NET improvement means he won’t be fired after next year either.

Putting my own opinions of what scheduling should be aside, you make it sound that scheduling all these great teams should be easy. As far as I’ve been following Spider basketball, we’ve always done a pretty solid job of scheduling and playing multiple P5 schools in the past. I doubt the staff just decided to stop wanting to play good teams. P5 want to squeeze out mid majors from getting at large bids and they’ve gamed the system. I think because of that, scheduling has gotten harder to do. I remember we were getting home games against Georgetown, Wake Forest, Boston College, and even Minnesota one year. Now it seems difficult to play them away. Here’s an older video of Mooney responding to Rothstein about scheduling. Still holds true today.

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Oh I know he'll be back there is virtually nothing that will put him in jeopardy. But UR standards for extensions r quite low too & u have a been a Extend Moon guy so just curious.

college bball is a tough business never said it was easy. it's not only scheduling but that's a big part. u want us in Big East there can be no way after 20 years u think Moon is THAT guy. we fail at MTEs. that is the first and most important way to get P5s. A10 teams & more r still doing it. why does Moon get a pass? I really thought after last year being in worst MTE in country, a MTE we had to PAY Florida Tech to play in and be a "sponsor" that we'd make up for it this season. I was wrong.

"Now it seems difficult to play them away"...I don't know what u mean. Those r available. we do those type of games like once every 3-4 years or so. Not common and that's a choice. It's not because they r not available. I've suggested we make it common. Take the $ and invest it into program too. ACC and B12 have more inventory.

The right person can come in and make a difference. With schedules and more. For some reason we like to drink expired milk.

 

[GKiller]

I had thought there might be games left in the Bucknell series, but apparently not...it was a 2-for-1 and the away game got pushed back a year. So yeah, 6 games left to schedule for next season.

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come on SF we talked about this same thing last year, don't slack on us!

 

[GKiller]

Hardt is so lazy. Going back to the well again.

the tweet is 4 years old. But it's probably 50/50 they end up back on the schedule anyway.

 

[32counter]

Is Columbia on the schedule

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[SFspidur]

come on SF we talked about this same thing last year, don't slack on us!

The steel-trap mind doesn't work as well as it used to.

 

[MrTbone]

Our NET was 253 and we won 8 D1 games. Our worst record for the past 20 years or so. I would be shocked if we were as bad as last years team. I suspect there will be some regression to the mean. Why are you saying that replacing 3 starters on a bad team is a bad thing? Who cares they were starters. Replacing them won’t mean we will be worse, but in fact could mean better in this case.

I expect the same thing with So Illinois, Illinois State, and Charlotte. Keep in mind this improvement is relative to how bad they were last year and regression towards their mean. I don’t think they will suddenly become a top 100 NET game.

You’re right it’s not a guarantee, but there’s much more potential this year to have overall better quality games than last year. We have 5 or so remaining games left to schedule. We need a couple P5 match ups and no more absolutely awful teams that are 300+ in NET. Or D2 games.

If we don’t regress to the mean then we’ve moved past derailment to a full level trainwreck.

I interpreted that you were suggesting we are going to suddenly be 10 games better next year which feels irrational. Perhaps that’s not what you meant.

We have a bad habit collectively of being overly optimistic with what we have incoming when often there’s minimal semblance between what we hope we’ve got and what we in fact end up with.

 

[urmite]

If we don’t regress to the mean then we’ve moved past derailment to a full level trainwreck.

I interpreted that you were suggesting we are going to suddenly be 10 games better next year which feels irrational. Perhaps that’s not what you meant.

We have a bad habit collectively of being overly optimistic with what we have incoming when often there’s minimal semblance between what we hope we’ve got and what we in fact end up with.

Maybe he meant NET 249?

 

[GKiller]

Is Columbia on the schedule

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In 2026. they're hosting us in their own MTE.

 

[MrTbone]

The right person can come in and make a difference. With schedules and more. For some reason we like to drink expired milk.

“Drink expired milk.”

Legit lol bruv.

 

[spiderman]

If we don’t regress to the mean then we’ve moved past derailment to a full level trainwreck.

I interpreted that you were suggesting we are going to suddenly be 10 games better next year which feels irrational. Perhaps that’s not what you meant.

We have a bad habit collectively of being overly optimistic with what we have incoming when often there’s minimal semblance between what we hope we’ve got and what we in fact end up with.

tough to project with such roster turnover these days but I do think we added some nice pieces. we're jaded coming off such an awful season, but it would be hard not to be a lot better.

 

[plydogg]

In 2026. they're hosting us in their own MTE.

The Spider MTE. Richmond, Columbia, Radford, and Iona.

 

[Spiders4ever]

The Spider MTE. Richmond, Columbia, Radford, and Iona.

Barnburner

 

[MrTbone]

tough to project with such roster turnover these days but I do think we added some nice pieces. we're jaded coming off such an awful season, but it would be hard not to be a lot better.

I’m seriously not trying to be Debbie downer but every offseason I hear the same thing. “I think So and So is probably our starting SG” and then So and So barely makes it off the bench.

I’m just not expecting a drastic uptick in wins or final NET.

 

[fan2011]

I’m seriously not trying to be Debbie downer but every offseason I hear the same thing. “I think So and So is probably our starting SG” and then So and So barely makes it off the bench.

I’m just not expecting a drastic uptick in wins or final NET.

I want to make a “season predictions” thread when we get closer to the start of the season. Maybe even make a game out of it and see who makes the best predictions

 

[SpiderGuy]

Hold on a second. “Will do better with their NET this year same way we will.”

What’re you basing that on? Objectively, there is zero evidence that we will be better. You can of course project or hope we will be, but we are replacing at least 3 starters on a terrible team with guys who may or may not perform better.

And who even knows about SIU or UNCC unless you’re just basing the whole thing on “it can’t get any worse”.

I’m hopeful next season looks better but there’s definitely no guarantees.

The line you quoted is exactly what caught my eyes in the original thread.

 

[Eight Legger]

One of the big stated reasons for extensions in the past was for recruiting. It let recruits know the coach was here to stay for their 4 year career. You may give a coach an extension after a decent season so he could recruit good players and the team could improve to get to the “next level”, in theory. Not sure this reason makes sense anymore in the current transfer landscape.

Not sure what Mooney would have to do to earn an extension next season in my mind.

Now, anytime he has a good season, extension. Anytime he has a bad season, "Just wait! We'll have a ton of new players next year!"

 

[Eight Legger]

The right person can come in and make a difference. With schedules and more. For some reason we like to drink expired milk.

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[VT4700]

I’m seriously not trying to be Debbie downer but every offseason I hear the same thing. “I think So and So is probably our starting SG” and then So and So barely makes it off the bench.

I’m just not expecting a drastic uptick in wins or final NET.

I think last season is making u use a lot of "every offseason", "same thing", "bad habit of being overly optimistic" ), and "zero evidence we will be better" talk. You are posting as if we have sucked every year this decade. We have had 6 seasons this decade and 4 ended with a top 100 NET, actually top 85 NET, with seasons that ended with NETs in the 30s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.

In 20, we heard Blake would be our SG. The result was one of our best seasons ever. In 22, Goose became our starting SG. The result was an A-10 title and NCAA tourney win over Iowa. In 24, Hunt and King became our starting guards and we won the A-10 regular season.

It's fine if u don't see a drastic uptick in wins or NET ranking happening, but u shouldn't be so surprised if others do. Sure, you can look at last year as evidence for your opinion, but u shouldn't act like it hasn't happened or can't happen. We went from a losing season in 2019 to 24 wins and a NET in the 30s in 2020, a 14-9 season in 2021 to 24 wins with an A-10 title and an NCAA tourney win in 2022, and a 15 win season and a 159 NET in 2023 to a 24 win, A-10 regular season winning season with a NET in the low 70s in 2024. So, maybe u shouldn't get on 17 with your "hold on a second" talk and respect his opinion a little more?

 

[spiderstudent17]

I think last season is making u use a lot of "every offseason", "same thing", "bad habit of being overly optimistic" ), and "zero evidence we will be better" talk. You are posting as if we have sucked every year this decade. We have had 6 seasons this decade and 4 ended with a top 100 NET, actually top 85 NET, with seasons that ended with NETs in the 30s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.

In 20, we heard Blake would be our SG. The result was one of our best seasons ever. In 22, Goose became our starting SG. The result was an A-10 title and NCAA tourney win over Iowa. In 24, Hunt and King became our starting guards and we won the A-10 regular season.

It's fine if u don't see a drastic uptick in wins or NET ranking happening, but u shouldn't be so surprised if others do. Sure, you can look at last year as evidence for your opinion, but u shouldn't act like it hasn't happened or can't happen. We went from a losing season in 2019 to 24 wins and a NET in the 30s in 2020, a 14-9 season in 2021 to 24 wins with an A-10 title and an NCAA tourney win in 2022, and a 15 win season and a 159 NET in 2023 to a 24 win, A-10 regular season winning season with a NET in the low 70s in 2024. So, maybe u shouldn't get on 17 with your "hold on a second" talk and respect his opinion a little more?

Well said VT. I can understand people’s disappointment and lack of optimism due to this last season, but like you’ve pointed out we have bounced back before after disappointing seasons in the recent past and have typically been a top 100 NET team. I get how there will always be an unknown element about team chemistry and new transfers playing up to A10 level now, but we also won a regular season title 2 years ago with new players. Personally, I don’t want to rush to judgement and dismiss this team before the season has even begun. I also don’t understand why some are so critical of the schedule right now. It’s not our best schedule so far, sure, but there’s 6 games left and so far off to a solid start. The way I see it, our team and schedule are trending in the right direction.

 

[MrTbone]

I think last season is making u use a lot of "every offseason", "same thing", "bad habit of being overly optimistic" ), and "zero evidence we will be better" talk. You are posting as if we have sucked every year this decade. We have had 6 seasons this decade and 4 ended with a top 100 NET, actually top 85 NET, with seasons that ended with NETs in the 30s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.

In 20, we heard Blake would be our SG. The result was one of our best seasons ever. In 22, Goose became our starting SG. The result was an A-10 title and NCAA tourney win over Iowa. In 24, Hunt and King became our starting guards and we won the A-10 regular season.

It's fine if u don't see a drastic uptick in wins or NET ranking happening, but u shouldn't be so surprised if others do. Sure, you can look at last year as evidence for your opinion, but u shouldn't act like it hasn't happened or can't happen. We went from a losing season in 2019 to 24 wins and a NET in the 30s in 2020, a 14-9 season in 2021 to 24 wins with an A-10 title and an NCAA tourney win in 2022, and a 15 win season and a 159 NET in 2023 to a 24 win, A-10 regular season winning season with a NET in the low 70s in 2024. So, maybe u shouldn't get on 17 with your "hold on a second" talk and respect his opinion a little more?

There were a ton of known commodities during the winning seasons of which you speak. It was not overly optimistic to think we’d be good in at least 3 of those net-100 seasons. We arguably should have been better in both 2021 and 2022 in fact. The only season we were not really in that boat was with King/Hunt but we knew we had something with several other guys.

If you want to argue that you have full confidence in the roster coming into this season that’s your prerogative, but this forum is littered with examples of posters who foundationally misforecast the impact various newcomers would have.

 

[spiderstudent17]

There were a ton of known commodities during the winning seasons of which you speak. It was not overly optimistic to think we’d be good in at least 3 of those net-100 seasons. We arguably should have been better in both 2021 and 2022 in fact. The only season we were not really in that boat was with King/Hunt but we knew we had something with several other guys.

If you want to argue that you have full confidence in the roster coming into this season that’s your prerogative, but this forum is littered with examples of posters who foundationally misforecast the impact various newcomers would have.

If you want to have reserved optimism about the new guys because no one is a proven commodity at UR, I completely understand that. Still, one of my original points in this thread is that there is a lot of reason to believe we will regress back to the mean, as we’ve done in the past. Like our 2023-2024 A10 regular season championship season after a disappointing season the year before. Also this idea can be applied to other teams that are on our schedule who have historically had more success than this past season. So going into 2025-2026 so far we have solid games scheduled against Belmont, So Illinois, and 2 of Furman/Charlotte/Illinois State.

 

[MrTbone]

If you want to have reserved optimism about the new guys because no one is a proven commodity at UR, I completely understand that. Still, one of my original points in this thread is that there is a lot of reason to believe we will regress back to the mean, as we’ve done in the past. Like our 2023-2024 A10 regular season championship season after a disappointing season the year before. Also this idea can be applied to other teams that are on our schedule who have historically had more success than this past season. So going into 2025-2026 so far we have solid games scheduled against Belmont, So Illinois, and 2 of Furman/Charlotte/Illinois State.

Yeah I’m not arguing it won’t get better, high likelihood we improve after last years mess. All I’m saying is we don’t have a deep history under CM of being pleasantly surprised by a bunch of newcomers, 23-24 excepted.

But sure, maybe this is the year. “TAMO” - Then a miracle occurs.

 

[spiderstudent17]

Yeah I’m not arguing it won’t get better, high likelihood we improve after last years mess. All I’m saying is we don’t have a deep history under CM of being pleasantly surprised by a bunch of newcomers, 23-24 excepted.

But sure, maybe this is the year. “TAMO” - Then a miracle occurs.

Getting several newcomers every year has only really become a thing for us starting the 2022-2023 season.