"Ooh, look what you made me do
Look what you made me do
Look what you just made me do"
2019 Richmond Spiders Football - Opponents Countdown - Jacksonville
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Look what you made me do
Look what you just made me do"
You need to own an airline if you play in the Pioneer League given the diverse geography of its members.Marist,Stetson,San Diego have some real traveling with away games.For other members getting to those 3 locations it ain’t a short bus ride.
JAX is a private university with 3,200 undergraduates and an endowment of only $45 million.JAX had no big money games to pay for a portion of its program.Their biggest money game was against UR.
http://www.pioneer-football.org/pfl/default/
http://www.pioneer-football.org/standings/
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Yea I never understood how those schools don’t bleed more money than the scholarship programs considering the travel involved. I know most those schools used to play D3 before the ncaa forced their hand in the early 90s to move up. Some of those schools moved to scholarship like Duquesne and Georgetown eventually. Davidson and Dayton remained non scholarship. Always thought the PL would be a good cheap way start to start FCS football without fully commiting it.
I realize it's not this simple, but.....
You discontinue football for financial reasons.
Your football team is non-scholarship.
You offer a full ride to all of the football players who choose to stay.
You discontinue football for financial reasons.
Your football team is non-scholarship.
You offer a full ride to all of the football players who choose to stay.
Wonder if Jacksonville got a few players who would make a nice edition to our team? At least good enough to play
or give us some needed depth.
or give us some needed depth.
Garnett Nicholas (Junior to be) Running Back - 6'3", 220 lb. 2 Time All Conference Selection (averages over 5 yards a carry for his career.
I realize it's not this simple, but.....
You discontinue football for financial reasons.
Your football team is non-scholarship.
You offer a full ride to all of the football players who choose to stay.
This was my first reaction too. Seems like a decent deal. Go there and pay tuition to play football ... and end up not playing football for free tuition?
There will be a considerable amount of attrition to be sure.
Kids still have to read books,write papers,take quizzes,take exams.Doubt there will be “academic tutoring”as before.
Time to look for D2/D3 and some D1 (for their QB and RB)schools.Believe kids will be eligible next season at other schools.No sit out when a program folds.
JAX LAX and BBall will be beneficiary of pigskin folding.
Economics
College Football Is a Money Pit, and One School Has Had Enough
By
Eben Novy-Williams
December 5, 2019, 5:00 AM EST
College Football Is a Money Pit, and One School Has Had Enough
By
Eben Novy-Williams
December 5, 2019, 5:00 AM EST
- Florida school ditched sport this week; will others follow?
- Almost 100% of FCS teams lose money, yet numbers are growing
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-is-a-money-pit-and-one-school-has-had-enough
UConn,Tennessee,Baylor,ND,Stanford Women’s b-ball each generate more revenue
than most FCS combined.
You obviously are unaware of UConn’s draw either at the gate or TV payments from AAC and beginning next year the Big East.
They play at Gample Paviliion on campus where they normally draw 9,000.At the XL Center in downtown Hartford against ND or Baylor or Oklahoma they draw 15,000.
Their following is cult-like in CT.
It’s all ways best to do your homework so you have a remote semblance of the facts.
Go to a UConn Women’s game and see for yourself.
Baylor Women draw over 8,000 for every home game.Waco ain’t my cup of tea but you should visit there also to take in a game.
All a good learning process.
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Learn yourself.
https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details
UConn breaks even, although the numbers are certainly fudged as expenses ($7,424,409) exactly equal revenues. Same with Baylor, identical, so the numbers are obviously fudged and brought up to equal by subsidy.
https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details
Tennessee loses $1 million per year
Stanford lost more than $3 million. Notre Dame lost $5 million.
Louisville, another top team, loses nearly $4 million per year.
Any TV revenue from the AAC or the Big East UConn may receive is for football and men's basketball. Not women's basketball. .
https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details
UConn breaks even, although the numbers are certainly fudged as expenses ($7,424,409) exactly equal revenues. Same with Baylor, identical, so the numbers are obviously fudged and brought up to equal by subsidy.
https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details
Tennessee loses $1 million per year
Stanford lost more than $3 million. Notre Dame lost $5 million.
Louisville, another top team, loses nearly $4 million per year.
Any TV revenue from the AAC or the Big East UConn may receive is for football and men's basketball. Not women's basketball. .
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Try this from the Hartford Courant.This will shed some light on your incorrec
They are all money losers just like 120 FCS football teams.Likely most FBS lose money too.Just like 300 Men’s basketball teams.Add up all those losses and its staggering.The model as framed is not sustainable.The winners are BCS football and 25 basketball programs and the networks.
They are all money losers just like 120 FCS football teams.Likely most FBS lose money too.Just like 300 Men’s basketball teams.Add up all those losses and its staggering.The model as framed is not sustainable.The winners are BCS football and 25 basketball programs and the networks.
Montana football turns a $3 million profit. NDSU football is profitable. So is Montana State, and I'm certain there are other examples as well.
PS: Thanks to generous network TV contracts, no P5 program, Notre Dame, BYU or Army loses money. So that's 68 programs, about half of the FBS programs in the country.
I'd like to think the thousands of athletes who participate in intercollegiate athletics, many with partial or full scholarships, are winners as well.
Please forward the operating profit results for the The 2 Montanas and NDSU.PDF file would be ok.
130 BCS/FBS + 120 FCS = D1 football
Non BCS and all FCS lose money.All require subsidy.
Army will never lose money.Uncle Sam is Great a printing greenbacks.
Not the point. Yea somebody wins the lottery but.....the vast majority don’t. Just like the vast majority of women’s sport run a deficit. In fact the majority of non revenue (kind of by definition) men’s sports run a deficit. I’d like to know how much in designated contributions go to these sports
With due respect to both positions regarding the financial success or lack thereof of FCS sports, IMO there are many positive intangibles (Alumni interest and contributions, school exposure and marketing, etc) that are not counted among the numbers offsetting costs of the various programs. Are there any sites that attempt to translate sports participation at the schools with alumni contributions and/or equivalent marketing benefits?
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