GKiller said:

I think the assumption is at minimum the Gulf Coast will do something to at least add 1 team for 3 games although it could be me u bullseye shooter spider23, 8legs1dream & his avatar, spiderman and & his boy Jared Grasso.

The Kentucky MTE dates don't match up.

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urmite said:

Are there 3 team 2 game MTEs where the 3 teams have a d2/3 game?

Tell them join Gulf Coast and replace d2/3 game with a 3rd MTE game.

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No because in order for an a d2/d3 team to be part of any MTE they have to be the "host" team like a Chaminade does. Of course, this relies on NCAA rules which everyone breaks without repurcussions anyway.

GKiller said:

we don't need 8 teams. we only need 1.

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ah, I see now. a 6 team MTE would work.

brooklyn brownstone said:

I see spiderman’s point here

We already have ONLY 2 games in our trash MYE.

Join a better 3 team MTE (like Kentucky’s) as the 4th team and make it a mini tournament. get 1 bad game and (assuming a win in game 1) get a good game vs Kentucky. Still also only 2 games. A wash at present.

We din’t lose any games in this scenario and in theory could add 1 more game if anyone decent has a slot.

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I think the assumption is at minimum the Gulf Coast will do something to at least add 1 team for 3 games although it could be me u bullseye shooter spider23, 8legs1dream & his avatar, spiderman and & his boy Jared Grasso.

The Kentucky MTE dates don't match up.

spiderman said:

we lose a game compared to what we might have if this MTE gets to 8 teams.
I don't think it does. it's 9/26.

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we don't need 8 teams. we only need 1.

spiderman said:

lines have really been blurred. will Woj be in charge of their Collective, or just a liason? I didn't think a school employee is allowed in charge. had to be some separation. but whoever's in charge ... that's probably the 2nd most important job to the HC.

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Would think that is correct - someone with the school can't be in charge of the collective, but Woj can be a BIG presence with the collective, and likely will be the GM of the collective of as well.

In reality - the collective is simply there to raise as much money as possible, then hand it over to the coach, who can then distribute as needed to the team.

I see spiderman’s point here

We already have ONLY 2 games in our trash MYE.

Join a better 3 team MTE (like Kentucky’s) as the 4th team and make it a mini tournament. get 1 bad game and (assuming a win in game 1) get a good game vs Kentucky. Still also only 2 games. A wash at present.

We din’t lose any games in this scenario and in theory could add 1 more game if anyone decent has a slot.

Are there 3 team 2 game MTEs where the 3 teams have a d2/3 game?

Tell them join Gulf Coast and replace d2/3 game with a 3rd MTE game.

GKiller said:

Sure then we lose 1 game, weaken an already bad ooc, and travel to like Houston Christian or South Alabama.

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we lose a game compared to what we might have if this MTE gets to 8 teams.
I don't think it does. it's 9/26.

97spiderfan said:

And I would contend with Mooney that his current staff is not able to manage all of their duties effectively, otherwise we wouldn't be playing in the Gulf Coast Showcase with a bunch of nobodies and having to scramble to fill our OOC schedule with teams like Maine and Mt. Olive.

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I'm sure all is well. 80's has a role somewhere.

spiderman said:

no, I'm saying the 3 team MTEs that are just playing each other would become a 4 team MTE where the winners play each other for a championship and the losers play each other for 3rd. they all still just play 2 games.

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Sure then we lose 1 game, weaken an already bad ooc, and travel to like Houston Christian or South Alabama.

no, I'm saying the 3 team MTEs that are just playing each other would become a 4 team MTE where the winners play each other for a championship and the losers play each other for 3rd. they all still just play 2 games.

I don't know how much longer they can go back and forth and back again for figuring out the "best option"

We are 5 days from October, just get a local D2 team in there and call it good.

Granted it might be Florida Southwestern State College’s intramural team. They just have to be the “host”. Exhibition games for them sort of like Mt. Olive.

My backup is setting up a LLC for all my old carpet gymers from UR. It’s like when my friend set up a fake charity so he could hire a professional beer truck for a party. Be resourceful!

spiderman said:

if any of those 3 team MTE's fit our schedule, we should be contacting them to see if they'd like to add us.
we'd do the GCS a favor bringing them to 4 teams, plus we might get better games. in any case, we'd have clarity.

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It’s the same issue that way. Works for us in theory but those 3 teams may not be able to add a 3rd game to their schedules by adding a 4th team. It’s an option to consider just unlikely unless all teams have opening. We’ll see.

Plus have u looked at those 3 teamer MTEs that r scheduled at same time? Check blogging the bracket. They’re worse. It’s hard to imagine we can weaken our ooc schedule but it would. I do think the team deserves more of a destination trip too for long season.

I have Florida Southwestern State College teed up for a fee.

But again if any team in one of those 3 team MTE teams are already at 31 games, they cannot add us without dropping a game. So if it presents issues for them, why would they want that at this stage? The ripple effect seems like a hassle, when we and our dumb MTE are the idiots without games.

SFspidur said:

That'a undoubtedly why his job description very clearly indicates being a liaison to collectives. Does still have to be some separation.

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that's the blur. if Woj is fundraising for the Collective, then he's woring for the Collective. yet being paid by the school.

if any of those 3 team MTE's fit our schedule, we should be contacting them to see if they'd like to add us.
we'd do the GCS a favor bringing them to 4 teams, plus we might get better games. in any case, we'd have clarity.

97spiderfan said:

I'd bet a sizeable wager that we too will have a "General Manager" for men's basketball in the next 2-3 years. We will need that to "compete" in the changing landscape of college basketball. SF, thanks for the answer.

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We’ll get a GM after Hardt visits with VCU’s GM and is blown away by what he finds out.

spiderman said:

lines have really been blurred. will Woj be in charge of their Collective, or just a liason? I didn't think a school employee is allowed in charge. had to be some separation. but whoever's in charge ... that's probably the 2nd most important job to the HC.

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That'a undoubtedly why his job description very clearly indicates being a liaison to collectives. Does still have to be some separation.

Absorbing another 3-team/2-game MTE is definitely problematic from the game count issue alone...all of those teams are likely to be at 31 games already and thus would have to drop another game somewhere to be able to move to a 3-game MTE.

I do love the live countdown on the Gulf Coast Showcase website ticking down by the second...it's like a doomsday clock. Under 60 days to go now!

VT4700 said:

Or maybe one of the many MTEs out there will drop to 3 teams, eliminate their MTE and join the Gulf Coast one.

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Look at my post above yours. u don't even have to get a MTE to drop from 4 to 3. There are many that are 3 teams. Probably easier. I imagine its hard to kick someone out or drop voluntarily. The advantage would be the # of games on schedule would match up. Obviously obstacles with both which is why it's almost October and we don't know what is going on.

lines have really been blurred. will Woj be in charge of their Collective, or just a liason? I didn't think a school employee is allowed in charge. had to be some separation. but whoever's in charge ... that's probably the 2nd most important job to the HC.

The fundraising part of GM role I think will be important. Someone like Woj you'd expect to do that well.

$ remains the most important part of NIL. That's what we have to keep up for sure with mens hoops. not stating as fact but I've heard Queally not being involved with other matters at UR now is actually a good thing for that.