urmite said:

Auburn, Charlotte, and William & Mary…

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gotcha, was scrolling through posts and just thinking that anything worse than 12-1 is basically a non-starter, missed the W&M/3rd best joke.

Our transfer situation and who will and won't play and how much they can contribute is really very interesting Two distinct groups of transfers. Three guys (Beagle, White, Nescovic) who were solid (but not spectacular) at lower levels and two guys who basically have no track record but come from blue blood programs. I really have no idea what to expect from any of them.

Can the three upward guys even be the same guys they were at last stops (much less pull a King and actually improve?) Can either of the downward two be an impact player at this level after doing zero at the last? No idea on any of it to be honest! And I'd say almost anyone on here who has an opinion - it isn't going to be the most well informed opinion because its really all guess work! Lots of hoping!

Beagle to me is probably the easiest to see his game translate. Assume he will rebound, shoot a good percentage and score a bit. Not sure at all about his defense or passing. But he's the easiest to me to see him being at least decent. But not even with that is it clear to me how much he contributes because I don't know that I see him being better than Walz. This is the one where I'd venture an educated guess that these two come pretty close to splitting time.

Nescovic probably has the best track record, but even that is hard to say. Predominately a shooter and that can sometimes not translate up against bigger and more athletic competition. I'd feel better about him if I knew he could just be a complementary scorer and play off a primary scorer. But I am still squinting trying to see a primary scorer for us! But if I am guessing (and to be clear we are all guessing) he's the one I'd slot for 30+ minutes.

White is the hardest of the experienced three to see how it will go. His best year was back in 20-21. He's had 5 seasons of college ball and they seem sorta all the same. No big step up, but seemingly solid. Just don't know how that translates when now he is in a new system for 1st time in 6 years and playing against better competition. He's the toughest for to see being a big contributor. The guard room is crowded. Hunt is clearly going to get good minutes. I also love Tyne. Think he has a chance to join the UR small PG legacy. He can (really!!) defend, he's tough, can handle etc. If he can step up his shooting and add a little bit of finishing, he can be really good and I think he can and will take a big step this year. If he does, White's opportunity will be limited.

And the downward two i have literally no idea. But I think we need to really hit on one! Walz and beagle should be OK in the middle. Neskovic will (hopefully) hold down a forward slot and there are options in the backcourt such that we should be ok - albeit lacking a King kinda guy). But we need a wing and we need a dynamic player of some sort. Tyne has a chance to be dynamic but might still be a year away from that and not sure anyone else of those mentioned is going to ever be dynamic. One of these guys two transfer down guys needs to be good for us IMHO. No idea which, but ideally its Roumoglu because of his size.

Mostly about the uncertainty surrounding the new transfers and I think we will live and die with how they do, but a big step from Tanner would go along way too. I am not mentioning Roache here because I just don't see him as part of a successful season. He is so limited (even when healthy) that I think its a bad sign if he is getting many minutes!

Also not sure what kind of identity we can create with this group. We were good last year because we were surprisingly really good on defense. We won with our defense. Quinn was a really good post defender, king was solid and Hunt, DJI and Harris were all excellent and Bigs was solid too. Not sure we can muster of that level of defense from amongst this group. This group I think is going to need to "old school" UR and be really efficient and smart on offense and probably need to have everyone be a threat and hope we can find a defense we can get by with. I am not so sure it will be the same version of man-to-man we saw last year - might need to a little more pack line style man and try to outsmart and outlast guys on our defensive end.

Biggest thing to me is what has already been mentioned a lot on the boards - - we don't appear to have a real dynamic player (an alpha in some other posts) and its going to be really hard to win a bunch without one emerging! Pretty sure its not any of the transfer up three. But, could be (and hoping it is) one of the transfer down guys and think it might be Tyne by seasons end if he doesn't end up being beaten down too much by having to be it too early!

a little soft, but great that we got the Auburn game.
unusually long 11 day break not during finals between games 8 & 9 (11/27 - 12/8).

I have lived within 20 miles of Mount Olive since 1983 and this is the first I knew that even had a basketball team.
They were pretty good at baseball in the past, however.

Yeah, I've seen this before where the D-II/D-III school calls it an exhibition but the D-I team has it as a regular game (though obviously not counting toward NET).

I’m hopeful we steal a win at Auburn and basically run the rest of the OOC because we play at Dayton, at VCU and can’t rely on 15 league wins again.

If we do run the OOC maybe it will turn into genius scheduling to let team gel and win vs lesser competition and grab the only big game while not taking any others - element of mystery on how good the team is, that type of thing (ie don’t lose to the 11th place ACC team.) This plan of course requires 13 wins.

brooklyn brownstone said:

10-3? Against this schedule?

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Auburn, Charlotte, and William & Mary…

It was a joke…I hope…

VT4700 said:

On Mount Olive's site, it says the Wilmington game and our game are exhibitions. Same for their ECU game.

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I'm guessing maybe they don't count towards their d2 record. Or they recently hired someone from U of R Athletic communications.

10-3? Against this schedule?

On Mount Olive's site, it says the Wilmington game and our game are exhibitions. Same for their ECU game.

SFspidur said:

Mount Olive is at UNCW on the 4th, so they come to us on the 6th. They're also playing ECU.

2024-25 Men's Basketball Schedule - University of Mount Olive

The official 2024-25 Men's Basketball schedule for the

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Do we give them a return game in Jerusalem in 25-26?

Home schedule

Mount Olive Wed 11/6
Marist Sat 11/9
Maine Wed 11/20
Belmont Sat 12/14
VMI Sat 12/21
FGCU Sat 12/28

Mount Olive is at UNCW on the 4th, so they come to us on the 6th. They're also playing ECU.

Eight Legger said:

Any reason we shouldn't expect to be 11-2 at the very worst starting conference play?

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Yes, of the 9 known D1 games W&M is the 3rd toughest. So 10-3?

Auburn - UR80s nailed it! I rode with u (& the Giper) on Auburn all summer and then the Hardt radio report made me doubt it, I'm sorry.

Of course the schedule gives us very little, weak as expected. But I guess worst case was no Auburn and another home Q4 or possibly a 2nd non d1 team. Must win to have longshot chance but that's what u get with so little hard games & majors. @ Charlotte is next hardest (I saw 1 person picked them 3rd in AAC) but still 1 of those MM H&H some here love but offer us little upside. & hope u get real lucky with 1 in the MTE tho those r little upside too, and less than Charlotte.

We got that 6th home game! Rewarding those season tix holders with Mount Olive. Can't have less than 6 when u can get a Mount Olive or Maine.

lol at the Showcase vs. Classic. quick graphic delete and repost coming? may not be worth it.

Couple other observations...

No opening night on 11/4 like most of rest of country. And then our actual opener is Mount Olive 11/6 a D2 school. A dud for us when it's usually an exciting time of the year. We usually count on a good crowd for opener, even for a traditional weak opponent. Comes with lot of giveaways and super cheap tix but better to have big crowd. with Mt Olive on 11/6 that's harder, how much idk hopefully very little change.

Zero schedule quotes in press release, as speculated. Nor in JOC article maybe he can secure something enlightening later.

SFspidur said:

Auburn should obviously be a loss on paper. It's possible a couple of the MTE games could be close to 50/50 depending on matchups. Charlotte could be competitive, but they've had a lot of turnover too, so not sure what to expect. We should be clear favorites in all the rest.

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I was thinking the same - Auburn is the best game and really only resume builder. Charlotte could work out to be a good numbers game, but that would depend a lot on Charlotte - who finished last year 18-12 and at 114. Best case scenario - Charlotte can crack top 100. The rest of the games - not much help. Even the MTE - It does not appear to offer much based on what JOC mentions, here is what they were last year. Maybe we squeak out a top 100 game or two, but nothing that would be earth shattering. It is already shaping up like this OOC is a 1-2 loss schedule IF we expect to have a chance at NCAA bid.

Southern Illinois - 116, 18-13
Eastern Kentucky - 219, 14-14
Louisiana Tech - 99, 19-10
Ball State - 258, 13-16

spiderman said:

11/6 Mount Olive

2024-25 Dockets: East Coast Leagues

Atlantic 10 Conference Southern Conference Ivy League Big South Conference Coastal Athletic Association America...

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love their pickles

Auburn should obviously be a loss on paper. It's possible a couple of the MTE games could be close to 50/50 depending on matchups. Charlotte could be competitive, but they've had a lot of turnover too, so not sure what to expect. We should be clear favorites in all the rest.

JOC article. Mentions the same MTE teams we already know about, so no new info on that.

SFspidur said:

It wouldn't be a UR announcement without incorrectly referring to the Gulf Coast Showcase as the Gulf Coast Classic in the tweet graphic.

Edit: You just beat me, mite.

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Tried to see if any of the field was announced, and it sent me to Gulf Shores…

It wouldn't be a UR announcement without incorrectly referring to the Gulf Coast Showcase as the Gulf Coast Classic in the tweet graphic.

Edit: You just beat me, mite.

SFspidur said:

Here we go! Auburn is on there, as are Maine and D-OII Mount Olive. No opponents for the MTE yet.

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RICHMOND, Va. — Richmond men's basketball announced its non-conference schedule for the 2024-25 season Tuesday. UR's 13 out-of-conference games for the season will

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Classic? Not Showcase?

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Eight Legger said:

Woof. Will Andy Griffith and Barney Fife be in attendance?

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