What do you mean by if it is a drug policy, Buck should not go quietly? Are you saying if this is drug related, he should blame the school and not himself for getting booted? Are you saying he should hold a press conference or announce on twitter "I got caught doing drugs and for some reason they kicked me off the team for it"? Whatever he did, Buck chose to do it. I don't get how this could be any less than 100% on Buck.
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What do you mean by if it is a drug policy, Buck should not go quietly? Are you saying if this is drug related, he should blame the school and not himself for getting booted? Are you saying he should hold a press conference or announce on twitter "I got caught doing drugs and for some reason they kicked me off the team for it"? Whatever he did, Buck chose to do it. I don't get how this could be any less than 100% on Buck.
Yes, it's on him. But it's also selective policy enforcement by the program, and a terrible look.
What I mean is that it has been insinuated by some that this is covered up for some, and not others.
I have just crossed the chasm. Mooney needs to go.
2 of 5 starters are now gone. Not sure how anyone could say we will be better next year at this point. Hard to believe this is what UR basketball has become. Sad really.
Exactly. A lot of people on here like to pretend they know things, only to be proven wrong at a later time.
How do you know this? Why say this as fact when you do not know what Buck did, when he did it, and what our policy is regarding this?
Its a bad look, but for all we know this issue could have been bigger than any of the previous guys with drug problems. We don't know what the line in the sand is and I don't think the administration would make a call like this unless it was the last straw. I doubt the administration is trying to save face by kicking a player off a team.
I heard today, before JOC announced the release, a story that related the one game suspension earlier to his dismissal now. I have every reason to believe the story is true and don’t want to post it on a public message board (don’t want to throw another student under the bus). But I can’t blame Mooney for this dismissal, and I can’t blame the athletic department. This one is on the player. And no, it doesn’t have to do with him asking for his release, so we can kill that conspiracy theory
Am I missing something? Was it announced what policy he violated that led you to know we aren't enforcing it fairly? Not doubting you just wondering.
Okay. Even I will say we are in for a long year if we lose one of our top 3. But, if we don't, I like our chances next year with a great PG in Jacob, a solid scorer in Nick, and a great big guy in Grant.
My point is that others have used drugs and not been kicked off the team. Was there more to this one? Possibly, I don't know. But the timing of it makes me very suspicious.
The situation is already public. He off the team for crying out loud. What possible story could you have heard?
What I heard involved multiple school administered drug tests which were failed. One resulted in the suspension for the Mason game (school administered test, so the NCAA sanctions don’t apply. It depends on the schools policy). And then multiple, repeated failed tests after the season
They've pulled his season highlights article:
Whatever We Need: De'Monte Buckingham Sophomore Highlights
Whatever We Need: De'Monte Buckingham Sophomore Highlights
One possible good ending is seeing the door hit CM on the ass on his way out the door. If our program had any balls, we would have booted Mooney at the end of the season, replaced him with a better coach, and potentially not have lost KF and DMB, and perhaps even grabbed a high-quality transfer or two.
Mooney has to go now. Our program has hit a new all-time low. Are we going to have to sit here and have our best players leave en masse before anything is done? SMDH...
Seems awfully weak and incredibly unfair to those that have not used drugs to say others have used drugs without either naming names or having any proof.
I have proof. I'm not suggesting all of them have – I don't know that – but I know factually that several have in the past two years and were not kicked off the team.
And Mooney is the bus driver.
Mooney has lost this team, not just Buck.
I agree also, and if it does have something to do with the suspension, than how terrible to mess up and let your teammates down once, be given a 2nd chance, and mess up again. And, yet, if true, some would still blame the coach and not the player.
What I meant was, since Khwan and Buck are already gone, the argument for keeping Mooney to keep the core together is gone. Mooney should be out. But the issue with Buck is not on Mooney
So I guess you guys were all off by a week. April 11th wasn’t the important date...April 18th was
I am with you. I am just so GD pissed right now I better not say what I really feel about this situation.
I’m flying across the country right now with two layovers. Worst possible news I could have imagined seeing when I landed in Salt Lake City and opened up twitter. Was hoping I was just sleeping on the plane and having a bad dream
Several? So, did they fail any tests? Did the coach know? Maybe somebody did and maybe your proof is you were right there with them when they did (only way you can have proof, right?), but I am not buying that the coach or school had any proof and hid something then, but is now choosing to not hide anything with Buck.
if there's any accuracy to the posts in this thread, firing Mooney wouldn't have saved Buck.
We are just going to wait out Mooney's contract aren't we? Unreal. 13 years into a coaching job and a roster and program should not look and feel like this (and I realize that transfers are a huge part of college basketball). There are so many good coaches out there that could have gotten us to the NCAA's over the last 7 years and could energize the program immediately but still we wait and hope and don't act.
Lost in all this is that since we released him, he is free to go anywhere and play right away, I believe. Maybe he and Khwan land at ETSU and take them to the tourney next year. Oh, irony...
Exactly, and it is very possible a new coach would not want to give a lot of minutes to both Khwan and Jacob ( too small a backcourt), and Khwan was not going to beat out Jacob at PG, so he probablty would have been gone anyway.
Not so sure a VCU student and a UR transfer are great sources. Also are probably too close to the issue to look at it objectively, and will want to paint DB in as good of a light as they can.
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