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Why not be at an institution for multiple years?

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Look at Andy Talley, Jimmy Laycock, the coach at Albany, etc... There is times where a coach does not want to move on despite his or her attraction to other schools. Nova and W&M facilities do not offer anything unique or better then anything else out there. These coaches salaries are on par with most others, then why does Talley or Laycock stay so long in one place? i disagree with the premise that we cannot keep a coach for an extended length of time, but what are the key elements to making this happen?
 
Look at Andy Talley, Jimmy Laycock, the coach at Albany, etc... There is times where a coach does not want to move on despite his or her attraction to other schools. Nova and W&M facilities do not offer anything unique or better then anything else out there. These coaches salaries are on par with most others, then why does Talley or Laycock stay so long in one place? i disagree with the premise that we cannot keep a coach for an extended length of time, but what are the key elements to making this happen?

Perhaps a good AD would reach out to those gentlemen for a courtesy conversation about the traits of such a person/right questions to ask in the hiring process. Heck, even Beamer would be a good mind to pick.

I have long wanted us to hire a coach that saw Richmond as their last job as well as one where they could compete for national championships. Obviously Clawson/London/Scott didn't fit that mold, but I guess I held out some hope that Rocco did, five years ago. If we continue to hire coaches who view UR as a stepping stone, we're going to keep finding ourselves in this situation. There's no reason why UR can't find their Andy Talley.
 
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Clawson and London were never going to stay. Scott was a train wreck. I do believe Rocco was promised things when he came here that would make him a long term coach. I remember the statement when he was hired, talking about bringing long term stability to the program. With the changes in administration, promises were broken or just put on the back burner. All the other issues just added fuel to the fire. Throw in the AD problems and you get the crap pile we are in.
 
I'm not really concerned about getting someone who will stay forever. We got someone like that for our basketball program, and look how well that's gone.

I want the best head coach we can hire, and while he is here I want to reimburse him well and according to his achievements, provide him with as many resources as he needs and allow him to do what he needs (within reason) to build a consistent national championship contender. If he decides to leave one day, great – as long as it's not specifically because of some mistake or issue that we created.

Most coaches want to reach the highest level they can. Dave Clawson never was going to stay here forever. John Beilein never was going to stay here forever. But both made us better and elevated our programs. I'll take that every time.
 
I firmly believe Danny Rocco would have stayed the next 10-15 years and retire at UR if he felt supported by the AD and the current administration. He and his wife love the area, he loved the kids he coaches. He loves the idea of winning big at a school with higher academic standards because it's harder. But when his boss (or bosses) take for granted his accomplishments and don't supply the resources he feels he needs to compete, eventually he gets tired of fighting the good fight on all sides.
 
I firmly believe Danny Rocco would have stayed the next 10-15 years and retire at UR if he felt supported by the AD and the current administration. He and his wife love the area, he loved the kids he coaches. He loves the idea of winning big at a school with higher academic standards because it's harder. But when his boss (or bosses) take for granted his accomplishments and don't supply the resources he feels he needs to compete, eventually he gets tired of fighting the good fight on all sides.

Completely agree. We had a highly successful coach who appeared to be content to stay with us for the long term and not follow the allure of an FBS job. And we completely screwed the pooch.
 
guys, when you are not at the top of the food chain, you are probably going to lose your coaches. sometimes they and the school need new blood and change is not so bad. down here listened to a member of the board of trustees of the u of houston and he said he was tired of being a stepping stone for coaches (art briles, kevin sumlin, tom hermon) all have left to take power 5 jobs. was laughing, you are not at the top of the food chain buddy and if your coaches do well, they will get offers which you cannot match. ours is a bit different in that if DR departs for another school in our conf, total embarrassment for our administration. the good news is, if he leaves, maybe the new coach will get some of the things that are needed to keep us up top. the bad news is, maybe that is not the vision of the current heads of state and we will fall back into mediocrity. we should find out very soon what the deal is.
 
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absolutely not but are those normal or an aberration? think we both know what that answer is. not sure i want a guy sticking around like paterno, bowden, beamer where they don't want to leave and they are stinking the place up. new blood every few years is OK as long as we have the right person making personnel decisions.
 
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