WHY DID SPIDERS GO FOR TWO?
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Only thing that makes sense to me is that he was making a STATEMENT, showing confidence in the O to score anywhere, anytime.. If that is the reasoning, I would have preferred to see him run Jacobi and let the line push the D-line thru the endzone.
I think the coach realizes his error today. But he was being aggressive, and according to Chris Johnson (during the game broadcast), he was uncertain about the kicking game.
And the broadcasters know this how??? They referred to Dorka as Yoder.....If not confident, why kick the first two times. PATs are like popping a beer can. I take anything the broadcast booth says with a grain of salt.
I would have gone for 4 pts if it were possible.Ram it down their throats.
Look for onsides kick on 12/5 and 1 end around and 1 double reverse and Jacobi throwing an option pass.
Look for onsides kick on 12/5 and 1 end around and 1 double reverse and Jacobi throwing an option pass.
I was listening to the Spiders' radio broadcast with Bob Black and Chris Johnson (I think). Chris OUR color commentator was providing the analysis. I was loosely quoting him.
That said, Coach was being super aggressive. He wants to win. He will not back down. We have a special team.
We do have a special team -- Let's celebrate it and beat the next team up ( the other Dukes or Tribe)!!!!!
All I could think at the time was that a TD and two FGs would only tie us and not beat us, but admittedly, I'm not sure why anyone would go for two to "defend" against that string of events potentially happening. I suspect it was either an attempt at a statement or fear that our kicker might botch it.
DR figured 3 more tribe possessions td and 2 fg would give them 22 pts. our 2 pt conversion would have tied the game and based on the fact that they had not crossed the line; this was the best case for tribe. with the running game shut down...cooley would be forced to throw and passing from behind is not his game.
The backup kicker looked really rough during halftime warm-ups. But that was on longer FGs. Both of his PAT's were solid.
I was baffled by the call at the game (as were most of the fans in my section) and still don't understand it. There's really no difference between 12 and 13, but a huge difference between 11 and 12.
Laycock's decision not to kick the FG on 4th down on that late drive really bailed Rocco out. W&M's kicker is a stud. If he makes it there, W&M is only down 8 and Spider fans are a whole lot more nervous.
If we'd kicked the PAT it takes the FG off the table. In the end, Cluley throws a pick after they convert the 4th down.
I was baffled by the call at the game (as were most of the fans in my section) and still don't understand it. There's really no difference between 12 and 13, but a huge difference between 11 and 12.
Laycock's decision not to kick the FG on 4th down on that late drive really bailed Rocco out. W&M's kicker is a stud. If he makes it there, W&M is only down 8 and Spider fans are a whole lot more nervous.
If we'd kicked the PAT it takes the FG off the table. In the end, Cluley throws a pick after they convert the 4th down.
suggested going for two every time we scored so just happy he threw me a crumb........you rock Rocco
Curious as to why you thought halftime works were rough for R.Fr. Kicker, Broccoli Chopper? What I saw was a cerebral kid who was working the angles and gauging the (light, but present) wind. Saw him miss left from 40-45, then miss right from similar distance, then bang it off the left upright, before finishing with 3-4 solid hits. Not sure if he is a golfer or an actuary, but understand that he did his job effectively as kickoffs avoided a dangerous return kid for Tribe. Looked like he used his warm-up effectively and followed Legg and Rocco's orders off the tee. Think 3 Gen Spider's early analysis was pretty accurate. "Next man up" got the job done for the Spiders on Saturday!
It looked to us like he missed more than he made.
Anyway my point is the kid was solid from in close. I like that DR frequently goes for 2 but an 11 point lead is one of the worst possible times.
Anyway my point is the kid was solid from in close. I like that DR frequently goes for 2 but an 11 point lead is one of the worst possible times.
Theres a difference between being aggressive and being smart. Rocco missed that one, and most likely knows that now. Difference between 11 and 12 is huge, so I wouldn't expect us to make that mistake again.
Rocco answered this question on the coach's show today and he basically said a number of factors were at play, but that the chart the team uses (which is kept by a coach whose name I didn't hear) said that we were to go for two up 11 in the third quarter. Had it been the fourth quarter, he said they would not have gone for two. He mentioned that W&M had a guy who had blocked two extra points the previous week and was the best EP blocker in the nation, plus we had a new snapper or holder (?), not to mention a new kicker (though he said he had faith in him).
Apparently the chart suggested going for two for the reason I described above – that two FGs and a TD would only tie you if you make it. And since it was the third quarter, you could reasonably assume the opponent would have at least three more possessions. I still think that's sort of a far-fetched type of scenario, though.
Apparently the chart suggested going for two for the reason I described above – that two FGs and a TD would only tie you if you make it. And since it was the third quarter, you could reasonably assume the opponent would have at least three more possessions. I still think that's sort of a far-fetched type of scenario, though.
After watching W&M just waltz through Duquesne's line and block a chip shot field goal and return it for a TD, my first thought...
"Oh, so that's why DR went for two."
"Oh, so that's why DR went for two."
Yep.After watching W&M just waltz through Duquesne's line and block a chip shot field goal and return it for a TD, my first thought...
"Oh, so that's why DR went for two."
saw them block 3 against umwcah so why i thought we should go for two on every score and not attempt any field goals, either go for it on 4th down or punt
