UR basketball

[8legs]

I believe the 54% figure he is referencing is Mooney's winning percentage over 12 years.

Thanks 97! I guess the clarity of my 54% remark was obscured by its simplicity.

Despite fan2011's as usual impressive statistics and analysis, any way you slice it (overall record, A10 record, record since contract extension, etc.) Coach Mooney's winning percentage is between 53% and 55%. And his record against our cross town rivals is even less. I am certainly not a fire Mooney fan, but it seems clear to me that after 12 years "mediocre" applies. In the A10 we have finished 8, 9, 7, tied 4 and 9 in the past 5 years.
Love watching TJ Cline, love SDJ's grit, love watching Buck and Nick and am excited to see what kind of careers they have. Love the unbridled enthusiasm of my frat bro, the Ulla. I will be in Section 6 cheering my sagging 70 year old a$$ off as long as I can climb the steps. I hope we beat VCU. I hope we win our remaining A10 games. I hope we do well in Pittsburgh and I hope we shock all the experts by getting an NCAA birth. But after 12 years when I see hope of how good we will be in the future based on whether Grant will return or how good Solly will be or how good next year's recruits will be it truly pains me that the numbers point to the answer being...54%. HOPE I'm dead wrong!

 

[localspider]

^. Sometime no matter how well a team is prepared, UVA, no matter how perfect the team responds to tthe coaches system, UVA, there is a Duke with better Johnnies and Joes. Same with UR, we need to play flawlessly each time out against the better A-10 teams, including the kids downtown.

 

[wr70beh]

And lacrosse is gaining very fast...

On what? Baseball?

 

[Spiders05]

In regards to Tomas, we offered him early, true. But he didn't sign until much later. So, was that because he was deciding or we had other guys in the hopper ahead of him. That is a question only Mooney and staff can answer.

Re: the above - come on. Why would we offer him early if we "had other guys in the hopper?" You think it played out like, "Hey Tomas, this is Coach Mooney. I'm calling to offer your a scholarship, but here's the catch; there's 5 guys I like ahead of you. They don't have scholarship offers yet because I'm still looking for their phone number, so I'm gonna need you to sit on this offer for a year and it's contingent on the other 5 all saying no. Have a great day." Tomas was offered last September, shortly after arriving, and decided he wanted to sit on the offer to evaluate his options since he was still new to the States.

Re: your other questions and your distrust in Mooney's ability to evaluate, I think are all very valid and your opinion. That's why I only called out the one piece of your post originally.

 

[97spiderfan]

Re: the above - come on. Why would we offer him early if we "had other guys in the hopper?" You think it played out like, "Hey Tomas, this is Coach Mooney. I'm calling to offer your a scholarship, but here's the catch; there's 5 guys I like ahead of you. They don't have scholarship offers yet because I'm still looking for their phone number, so I'm gonna need you to sit on this offer for a year and it's contingent on the other 5 all saying no. Have a great day." Tomas was offered last September, shortly after arriving, and decided he wanted to sit on the offer to evaluate his options since he was still new to the States.

Re: your other questions and your distrust in Mooney's ability to evaluate, I think are all very valid and your opinion. That's why I only called out the one piece of your post originally.

05, I ask this as a question. We (as does every program) obviously offer to many more players each year than we have scholarships available. So, not sure the process coaches must go through to balance the larger number of offers with the limited number of scholarships. Yes, some kids are going to turn you down but if you have 2 kids who both want an offer, but you only have 1 slot, how does that play out?

I say this in reference to Tomas because he was offered early but then we had multiple players who we also offered who played the same position as he did, choose a different path. I would imagine if one of those kids would have chosen us, than Tomas's might never have the option of coming here despite his early offer.

 

[Spiders05]

I'm seeing more clearly where you're coming from now.

I have my thoughts on how this plays out, but it's largely speculative. Give me a while and I'll see if perhaps I can speak with the staff more openly on this. May not happen until the off-season. It's a great question and I don't want to misrepresent their process. Understand too, they may not want to divulge much.

 

[spider23]

Jeff Myers wrote an article about this once, but I can't locate it. I am sure some offers have a contingency, and others are first come first serve, depends where you are on the food chain.
If I recall, in Myers article JB offered him basically as a third option at PG if others guys did not commit, which they did not. Again, I think there are many variables.
I know a guy that played D3 ball, he was recruited by Wagner (D1) but was told he was the 5th option at SG, and his offer was basically contingent on 4 guys ahead of him going somewhere else.