During the post game comments last night, Greg Beckwith said that this is a one of the best seasons in Richmond basketball history. Anytime a team can play late into March, that team has a great season. Greg noted that this team is like the 2015 team that also made it to the quarterfinals of the NIT. Bob Black said that this team has the most wins for a UR basketball team since the 2011 Sweet 16 team.
This Basketball Season, So Far
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Agreed, a lot was asked of two freshman and two sophomores this year. They responded in a big way. Finally we had energetic senior leadership and a coach that got out of their way.
re: and a coach that got out of their way.
You had me until the last 9 words. This is where you guys have no credibility to say that the coach and his staff had nothing to do w/ the improvement of EVERY player in the rotation this year. TJ Cline didn't walk through the RC doors 4 years ago as a P.O.Y. Complete BS.
Can you nit pick decisions? absolutely. But you can also point some extremely dumb and careless players by our floor eaders, including last night.
The difference between this year and last year is leadership...not just the seniors but the entire team. TA was an immense talent, but he wasn't the leader that this group has.
You had me until the last 9 words. This is where you guys have no credibility to say that the coach and his staff had nothing to do w/ the improvement of EVERY player in the rotation this year. TJ Cline didn't walk through the RC doors 4 years ago as a P.O.Y. Complete BS.
Can you nit pick decisions? absolutely. But you can also point some extremely dumb and careless players by our floor eaders, including last night.
The difference between this year and last year is leadership...not just the seniors but the entire team. TA was an immense talent, but he wasn't the leader that this group has.
DMB was/is a major, major factor in turnaround from last year. Not just in his play but his aggression and enthusiasm which has been infectious with the team. Both in games as well as in practices.
Yep! It shows everytime he takes the court - competitor personified.
Spider K right on target. This team has performed to the maximum of their ability, may be fair to even say overachieved. Kudo's to the senior leadership, especially Cline. The team chemistry has been excellent, and they are fun to watch when they get it going. Chemistry is of course a function of good player leadership.
Stonewall, I heard it a little bit differently. I thought I heard Beck say that TJ is having one of the best Spider seasons in history.
If I heard correctly, I would agree. If you heard correctly, I would disagree.
If I heard correctly, I would agree. If you heard correctly, I would disagree.
I think both points are correct. Once TJ scored the first and second triple-double, he was already going to have a special season, and yes one of the best of any Spider.
I also think that any Spider team that makes it this far into the post season is having an outstanding year.
I didnt think losing in semis of A10, losing three times to your rival and winning two games in NIT would be "one of the best" seasons in UR history. I guess my view that Richmond hoops was a historically successful program was incorrect.
There's a difference between outstanding and "one of the best seasons in Richmond basketball history." 75% of our fans, according to the poll, believe making the NCAA tourney and losing in the first round is better than making MSG. Using that as a premise, all of our NCAA years are better than this, and we've had enough NCAA years, that it moves it out of the "one of the best seasons" category for me. Just my opinion.
88 and 11 were way better than this. I think 11 was better than 88, because we A) beat VCU handily at the Robins Center, B) won the A-10 tournament, and C) made the Sweet 16. This is a good season...probably top 10 if we make it to MSG. Nothing like the NCAA years.
"One and Done" is one of the worst team/fan experiences! Anybody at Providence to watch Spiders lose to St Mary's or to Duke in Atlanta? Depressing.....with no consolation.
Tomorrow Richmond Spiders will be listed in every newspaper in the country on the TV schedule and on the sports page. Three games in a row on ESPN.....(understand the NCAA was on TV but ESPN knows the size of the market and they don't produce games just for the fun of it). Compare the publicity on TV, newspapers, fan attendance, alumni interest..........and if you win two or more NIT games......the success is greater than the 4 day hysteria of making the NCAA and being sent home and forgotten by Saturday.
Anybody see Tillman from VCU at Robins Center last night and think that he was satisfied with a "one and done" plane ride to Salt Lake? I was impressed with his shaking hands and congratulating Coach Mooney as they passed each other after Coach's interview.
Tomorrow Richmond Spiders will be listed in every newspaper in the country on the TV schedule and on the sports page. Three games in a row on ESPN.....(understand the NCAA was on TV but ESPN knows the size of the market and they don't produce games just for the fun of it). Compare the publicity on TV, newspapers, fan attendance, alumni interest..........and if you win two or more NIT games......the success is greater than the 4 day hysteria of making the NCAA and being sent home and forgotten by Saturday.
Anybody see Tillman from VCU at Robins Center last night and think that he was satisfied with a "one and done" plane ride to Salt Lake? I was impressed with his shaking hands and congratulating Coach Mooney as they passed each other after Coach's interview.
25 million people fill out brackets and you get a Million and a half for the game you play in the NCAA.
We can make some fun out of the NIT but the impact on the program and the University, at large, is not close.
You are wrong. Our exposure in the NIT far far exceeds the one and done when you lose to an unknown mid major. No comparison. Hey we beat THE University of Alabama.
Quantify it for me. Use facts. Unfortunately, you won't, because in this case, you can't.
Again, really having fun 2ith the NIT...
Mo, quantify it for me. For sure no one was at St Mary's vs vdu game. Quantify it for me, buddy. Do it! No comparison.
Waiting for the year that the Spiders make the Final Four and win two more games after that and are National Champions.....................until then makes me happy the Spiders are among the very few teams that are still lacing them up this season..........
More than 25 million people fill out brackets. It appears that more than 2 million people, on average, watch each first round NCAA game. None of this includes the talking head programs on sports networks that discuss the brackets for 4 days. And first round participants make $1.5m.
There are my facts. Share yours.
One more question. Would you rather compete for conference championships in the A10 (on regional networks) or be mid-pack, at best, in the Big East (on Fox and FS1)? Hmmm....
Rather be in the Big East with other private schools. Won't be attending future UR/vdu games; really don't wish to be around such nasty people.
It's quantified by us no longer receiving any NCAA units that we've earned, that's a whole lot of $ we don't make when we make NITs instead of NCAAs
Good thread on the A10 board that shows what every team in the league is earning unit-wise from the tournament. The only teams that are now earning only the league money ($330k or so a year) moving forward are us, Fordham, Mason and Duquesne. Oof.
http://www.basketballforum.com/atlantic-10-conference/554562-ncaa-credit-payouts-2.html
A few of them were. Tillman played with 2 of the Oakland players, plus was on the high school team with their PG from last year.
How far from Oakland to Detroit?
I didn't think it was that disparate but hey, we can upgrade our team bus to the P-Funk All Stars model with that $5k.
Unless ulla actually responds with the facts that I requested, I'll assume the case has been closed.
First off losing in NCAA over winning in NIT every day of the week for me. And like to see UR in the Big East but I would take competing for A10 championships over mid-pack BE since greater chance to make the NCAA tourney though the BE did get 7 bids this season.
Please reference. So far you have provided no facts. Although it seems you have gained support from vdu loyalists. Congrats!
Mo, you are missing the point....NCAA is the goal, not NIT.....no argument! Program, fans, school, alumni and team benefit more with a two+ game run in the NIT than being booted out of tournament and news after a one game loss.....Success is always better than failure! You think the "one and done" teams will feels better a week from now or the Richmond Spiders?
Respectfully disagree. I'm less interested in how each option makes me "feel" and more interested in how it advances the program.
And again, I'm still having a lot of fun with the NIT.
