The Trump Administration

[Wood Hall]

This administration is a complete clown show and they haven't even taken over yet. A complete disaster awaits.

KE, it's often said that "you can't fix problems by throwing money at them." Funny how that never applies to the Department of Defense. Or if your car, or the foundation of your house needs fixing. Then "throwing money" at the problem fixes it pretty good.

 

[KE Spider]

This administration is a complete clown show and has been for 4 years they haven't even taken over yet. A complete disaster, foreign and domestic, for four long inept years. awaits.

Fixed it.

Actually, don't know how Trump will do, but would be difficult to top Biden Admin on ineptitude.

Serious question, who really has been running things the last 4 years?
Serious question, how could someone with an obvious debilitating level of dementia receive 14 million Dem primary votes?
Serious question, what were the Dems' thinking?

They handed the presidency to Trump by sticking with Biden well past the sell by date along with the lawfare partisan stunts, open borders, Afghanistan withdrawal, etc.

Time for serious soul searching on the Left.

 

[Wood Hall]

It's already going to hell. Musk and the GOP muckity-mucks really hate the average MAGGAT.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/elon-musk-contemptible-fools-maga-doge

MAGA wants to deport brown people so Americans get more low paying jobs while importing brown people to take the high paying jobs from Americans. Is that right? So confusing.

 

[Wood Hall]

Historians will have a very favorable review of the Biden administration. So will people now getting insulin at an affordable price.

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems.
2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan.
3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole and provided funds for youth mental health.
4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.
5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.
6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year.
7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan.
8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act.
9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits.
10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket.
11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.
12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement.
13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland.
14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden.
15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.
16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.
17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue.
18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.
19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.
20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins.
21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.
22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027.

 

[KE Spider]

It's already going to hell. Musk and the GOP muckity-mucks really hate the average MAGGAT.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/elon-musk-contemptible-fools-maga-doge

MAGA wants to deport brown people so Americans get more low paying jobs while importing brown people to take the high paying jobs from Americans. Is that right? So confusing.

Believe the point is our country seeks the best talent available, for blue collar, agricultural or technical jobs, regardless of skin color, if the individual has been legally permitted to enter our country. Follows our founding principles much closer than DEI.

Is this considered controversial?

 

[Gallipoli]

Historians will have a very favorable review of the Biden administration. So will people now getting insulin at an affordable price.

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems.
2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan.
3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole and provided funds for youth mental health.
4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.
5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.
6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year.
7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan.
8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act.
9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits.
10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket.
11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.
12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement.
13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland.
14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden.
15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.
16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.
17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue.
18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.
19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.
20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins.
21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.
22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027.

This really should be in the Biden Doctrine thread.
By the way, you left out the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, among others.

 

[Wood Hall]

Believe the point is our country seeks the best talent available, for blue collar, agricultural or technical jobs, regardless of skin color, if the individual has been legally permitted to enter our country. Follows our founding principles much closer than DEI.

Is this considered controversial?

You mean those "founding principles" where women couldn't vote/own property/sign contracts/have credit; where Native Americans weren't even citizens and had their land stolen; where Blacks were only 3/5 of a person and had no rights at all; where people who didn't own property couldn't vote, where Sanators were appointed, where it was legal to own another human being? Those principles?

Businesses in this country have generally sought the cheapest labor, not the best talent. Hence the movement of the textile industry from New England to the South and then to overseas, as wages rose at each location.

Foreign tech workers on a work visa come at a much cheaper price than current citizens, and can be more easily discouraged from job-hopping.

 

[Wood Hall]

You forget that some of us are old enough to remember what an actual "disastrous withdrawl" looks like. And which party was in power when it happened.

 

[KE Spider]

You mean those "founding principles" where women couldn't vote/own property/sign contracts/have credit; where Native Americans weren't even citizens and had their land stolen; where Blacks were only 3/5 of a person and had no rights at all; where people who didn't own property couldn't vote, where Sanators were appointed, where it was legal to own another human being? Those principles?

Please see again and consider "presentism". Posted before, perhaps did not take the time to watch.



Secondly, original intent was for the House to represent the citizens ("the Peoples House"): the Senate to represent the interests of the states (who created the Federal government, not vice versa). Senators before the 17th Amendment were elected by each state legislature, not appointed.

 

[Eight Legger]

Everyone wants the best people to do the job. The problem with that is that when historically only certain types of people have had access to certain opportunities, other groups of people do not have that access and almost never can get it. Hence why we've had all white presidents, except for one.

Were all the smartest, most equipped-to-be-president citizens really always white men between 1776-2008? Was every potentially capable CEO a white man for 150 years? Was every nuclear physicist? We could go on and on.

And if you believe that was the case, I'm not sure what to tell you. If you don't believe that, it's worth considering why it was the case and what steps might be taken to change the playing field.

I personally do not love everything about DEI or its precursor, but I also understand the goal, which is to give more people the opportunities that historically have gone only to white men. As a white man, sure, it might mean that sometimes you or I get the short end of the stick when we might not deserve it. Congratulations: now we understand a tiny bit what people of color and women have been dealing with every day for centuries.

I don't recall any of us complaining when the hiring practices of this country were governed by *E* (exclusionary) policies for two centuries, but as soon as things change, half the country is up in arms. Seems hypocritical to me.

 

[Wood Hall]

Ah yes, "presentism".

The rationalization of abhorrent behavior. When was it ever right to own or lynch another human being?

 

[Gallipoli]

Historians will have a very favorable review of the Biden administration. So will people now getting insulin at an affordable price.

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems.
2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan.
3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole and provided funds for youth mental health.
4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.
5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.
6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year.
7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan.
8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act.
9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits.
10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket.
11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.
12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement.
13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland.
14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden.
15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.
16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions.
17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue.
18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.
19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.
20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins.
21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.
22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027.

I am just curious, which historians will have a favorable view of Joe Biden? I was wondering, because it will be a very short list.

 

[Long Time Spider Fan]

I am just curious, which historians will have a favorable view of Joe Biden? I was wondering, because it will be a very short list.

Here's 50, for a start. But I'm sure none are as knowledgeable as you are.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/19/1232447088/historians-presidents-survey-trump-last-biden-14th

 

[urfan1]

I am just curious, which historians will have a favorable view of Joe Biden? I was wondering, because it will be a very short list.

Same thing was said about Jimmy Carter.