Isn't any opinion or position on what was the reasons for the dispute between Gill and Rocco just speculation? Do we really know between the two of them who was unreasonable?
The timing and content of JOC article on Gill is strange
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I think DR and CM (and other coaches at UR) feel (felt in Danny's case) like they are losing "pull" (see my comment above for explanation) with admissions. That is, they have their set number of spots and parameters and the school hasn't changed that, but they also are/were dependent on getting some others in who might be only marginally/slightly below the "norm" and admissions had been letting them (at least some) in and the coaches sorta knew who would or wouldn't get in well in advance.
Now, they don't know what they can expect and they don't get answers until much later etc. This is a tough environment - - - and for much more than just basketball and football.
The Ivie's have a process called an academic "pre-read". Your academic info (grades, SAT etc.) is provided by the coach to admissions and admissions will actually send a letter that says you are "likely" (or not) to be admitted based on your profile - - - but "likely" means you ARE in (barring an academic collapse) and coaches count on it and recruits know it. This is a form of preferred admission and is used a lot for kids who are not the top recruit but are recruits whose academics are really pretty good, but in a pool (large) of people with really good academics and only a small percentage will get in (think about a kid with 1350 SAT - - likely not good enough for an IVY straight up) . Admissions is saying your academics are good enough that they won't stop the coach from getting you - - but many other people with equally good academics will be rejected in the regular admission process. And these Ivy coaches don't all get unlimited "pre-reads" - - there are parameters on this as well. Many coaches "support" admission for recruits who did not get a pre-read and how much that support helps tends to be a function of the school, sport, coach etc. involved.
I should add that AD's are rarely if ever (at Ivies or others) in on any individual decision and are not championing for any individual recruit or any team etc. They are very involved in making sure admissions understands how important sports are to the school's success and how crucial it is to get kids into school and convincing admission that those who might not quite measure up academically but excel in another area may be better admits for the school than another academic admit. AD's often support admissions help for non-sports programs as well - - sighting the diversity of people it brings to campus etc. (likely a ruse to get more athletes too, but AD's are often big supporters of all forms of special admits - - as long as taking a theater guy doesn't take a spot from a basketball player). Gill very well may be doing this and his abscence of a specific push for any individual before the Admissions group wouldn't be unusual at all. In fact, at many schools, it might be counter productive!
Now, they don't know what they can expect and they don't get answers until much later etc. This is a tough environment - - - and for much more than just basketball and football.
The Ivie's have a process called an academic "pre-read". Your academic info (grades, SAT etc.) is provided by the coach to admissions and admissions will actually send a letter that says you are "likely" (or not) to be admitted based on your profile - - - but "likely" means you ARE in (barring an academic collapse) and coaches count on it and recruits know it. This is a form of preferred admission and is used a lot for kids who are not the top recruit but are recruits whose academics are really pretty good, but in a pool (large) of people with really good academics and only a small percentage will get in (think about a kid with 1350 SAT - - likely not good enough for an IVY straight up) . Admissions is saying your academics are good enough that they won't stop the coach from getting you - - but many other people with equally good academics will be rejected in the regular admission process. And these Ivy coaches don't all get unlimited "pre-reads" - - there are parameters on this as well. Many coaches "support" admission for recruits who did not get a pre-read and how much that support helps tends to be a function of the school, sport, coach etc. involved.
I should add that AD's are rarely if ever (at Ivies or others) in on any individual decision and are not championing for any individual recruit or any team etc. They are very involved in making sure admissions understands how important sports are to the school's success and how crucial it is to get kids into school and convincing admission that those who might not quite measure up academically but excel in another area may be better admits for the school than another academic admit. AD's often support admissions help for non-sports programs as well - - sighting the diversity of people it brings to campus etc. (likely a ruse to get more athletes too, but AD's are often big supporters of all forms of special admits - - as long as taking a theater guy doesn't take a spot from a basketball player). Gill very well may be doing this and his abscence of a specific push for any individual before the Admissions group wouldn't be unusual at all. In fact, at many schools, it might be counter productive!
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Wonder how the UR admissions world has changed for Russ since he left UR in 2008 for UTC and has now returned.I perceive that there is more rigidity and a lot less flexibility in the UR admissions policies for athletes and non athletes alike since his departure unless of course there is legacy(with a checkbook)involved.The episode of AJ Hines' UR acceptance and LOI signing combined with a later rejection somehow won't erase itself from this old,fading memory bank.Am sure there were others too.
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This article was definitely a ploy by Gill to save face. He got fired. I hope his personal matters all work out well and that his partner has a speedy recovery with any medical issue she has. However, Gill should have been let go and I am excited to see who the new hire will be.
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