Schneider transferring
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Probably not a huge loss to the team. Obviously a concern that again we have a guy who seemed unable to find any meaningful time who is headed out.
Sort of odd timing to not just wait it out to the end of the season. Does he transfer this semester somehow to get a half-season back/ahead? Not sure how that works.
Sort of odd timing to not just wait it out to the end of the season. Does he transfer this semester somehow to get a half-season back/ahead? Not sure how that works.
Not really odd. He can now be eligible second semester next year.
How can you say this? A recruiting fail? Why? Transfers happen all over the place. No team plays 13 guys, so lots of guys will always look into transferring if they are buried on the depth chart. If anything, it means we recruited better players that quickly rose above him on the depth chart.
Well, the big picture failure here is that the Schneider family runs the Big Shots AAU program so we have probably closed the door on getting any players from there in the future.
I think fail is a poor choice of words. Definitely a recruiting miss. I did not follow the recruitment of Schneider closely, but he wasn’t impressive the minutes he did see the court (main game was pre-season exhibition) in my opinion. I think this is good news for both him and the team. He will find a team where he can play and UR has a roster spot for someone else. UR gets a little bit of a jump on looking for perhaps another grad transfer that could contribute next year.
Good luck Bryce and let’s go recruiters.
Where is that and has UR ever gotten quality players from that program?
Agree. I liked his game for the future but he struggled on the defensive end. He was not in the Connor Smith, Luke Piatrowsky, etc. Level of recruit.
Big Shots is out of the Carolinas. I am unaware of us having a player from Big Shots previously but it's just another dot on our map of recruiting failures.
How do you mean? Connor Smith got a fair amount of playing time early in his career, and I don't think Big Luke ever sniffed the court. To me the guys who leave here without making any kind of meaningful game contribution are a major miss. We pay for their tuition, and don't get anything from them on the floor, it's like making a bad hire in a business setting. It's expensive, disruptive, and it doesn't look good.
#NoMoreMooneyTruthing
?? So we are supposed to play a guy based on AAU programs and not talent?
Exactly. Just another reason to get on our coach I guess. It is so predictable. It does not matter the thread, it all goes back to the same nonsense. And, yes, that previous post about risking losing AAU guys was nothing but nonsense.
So are you saying we should be the only program that gives all 13 scholarship guys meaningful game contributions?
But your reason for calling it a failure, as silly as it was, was shown to be wrong since we don't get any guys from there anyway.
I can't believe Mooney still has you on the clock on NYE like this.
I don’t think Bryce transferring is a black mark unless he was promised time which I suspect Mooney wasn’t kooky enough to do. So maybe some hard feelings but I doubt that they’d steer guys away from UR.
And yes, guys transfer every year, so I will wait to see what else happens. If we end up with 3+ transfers again though I think it’s a concern. But I’m ok if it means we bring in better contributors.
And yes, guys transfer every year, so I will wait to see what else happens. If we end up with 3+ transfers again though I think it’s a concern. But I’m ok if it means we bring in better contributors.
The real failure was striking out on Luke Frampton - Davidson, from the same AAU program.
I wish Bryce well, but this looked like a classic Mooney reach from Day 1. Just way way too many of these.
If we can get a new coach in here, this will be good. If not, likely will not have much impact either way.
I wish Bryce well, but this looked like a classic Mooney reach from Day 1. Just way way too many of these.
If we can get a new coach in here, this will be good. If not, likely will not have much impact either way.
Given the number of outbound transfers who never sniffed the court, or only got mop-up minutes and were on a full ride, I'm sticking to my major recruiting miss statement. We have had WAY too many of them in the recent past.
#NoMoreMooneyTruthing
You want to know why we are so "young" every year, this is EXACTLY why.
When you have 1-2 recruits every year who aren't A-10 caliber and then transfer out and then only to replaced by a high school player who will be coming in the following year, you never have that many upperclassman in the program. Bryce would be a 3rd year player on the team next year and he will be replaced with a freshman who like almost all of our freshman, we have to wait until they grow up.
So let's see: AJ Ford, Bryce, Kovien, Jesse, Tim S. Diekvoss, Smithen all our players who fit this mold over the past 5 years or so. Probably missing a few on that list. Throw in the wasted grad transfers of JMA and Kweisi, the failed Solly experience, players like Paul who stayed on schollie 4 years who couldn't contribute and that is a whole team of recruiting failures in the past several years. Again, go back and educate yourself on what happened longer than 2 years ago before you arrived and you will see what we all so plainly see, that our staff has significant recruiting problems.
There are other players currently on the roster who probably are "transfer eligible" as well.
only time i worry about guys who transfer are the ones playing and really contributing and going on to a better conf. those are the guys you want to retain not lose. guys who are not playing and don't feel they will be playing in the future, does not mean there is a program prob other than you missed on someone'e ability in the recruitment.
Good decision by Schneider, he is doing the right thing and I applaud him for proactively making a move that is best for him. It was clear that he had no shot to play here.
I said to this board after the open practice last year that Schneider was being ignored by Mooney in practice. Mooney was using him as a scout team practice player. He wasn't even participating as a regular during repetitive drills. After that practice it was obvious that Schneider was last on Mooney's depth chart.
I said to this board after the open practice last year that Schneider was being ignored by Mooney in practice. Mooney was using him as a scout team practice player. He wasn't even participating as a regular during repetitive drills. After that practice it was obvious that Schneider was last on Mooney's depth chart.
New Richmond Hoops slogan for the 2019-2020 season. You should tell the PR guy and Video Coordinator to put something together.
Fine. Expect something different then. Go ahead and expect us to be one of the few schools that won't have transfers. I will continue to expect us to be like pretty much every school out there regarding transfers, and as a result I will not be surprised or start blaming people when transfers happen.
Yes, why expect anything better than just being mediocre in the wins-losses, retaining players, or any other metric. We should just strive to be average. Mission accomplished. Actually, I think we are below average, but who cares, as long as Mooney and his brethren collect their paychecks, all is just fine.
Have we ever had a transfer that wasn’t successful here go on to be a top player somewhere else?
Unfortunately, for the kids, they just go to other programs and find themselves pretty much
where they were here.
Unfortunately, for the kids, they just go to other programs and find themselves pretty much
where they were here.
I was surprised that the transfer rate was 40%. I don’t know that anyone is particularly upset about Bryce leaving, it obviously has more to do with the continued perceived misses by CM with these guys who aren’t sniffing time at all.
I don’t know that our situation is meaningfully different than elsewhere, ie, we lose guys to transfer who have no shot of playing here, but I also don’t know if the capability gap is nearly as wide as it seems here. We have had a lot of guys who had virtually no playing time here which indicates they were significantly talent deficient.
I think most guys now think they should play. A few years ago, guys were content to remain at the end of the bench. Maybe with twitter, year round basketball, and everything else out there, guys think they are a little better than they really are. Every team has guys that do not smell the court. Many transfer. Some ride it out. People want and expect us to be different in that regard than 300+ other schools, but we are not. It is just the way things are in college basketball now.
Instead of looking at this as a recruiting failure, it should be viewed as a recruiting success of Jake Wojcik, Noah Yates, and Andre Gustavson - even Grace though he's a big man sub for Grant. They're all getting significant playing time (AG less so) and Wojcik is going to be a rookie of the year candidate in the A-10. Transfers are simply the new normal in college sports (40% and climbing), just like free agency became so in baseball. When we were kids baseball players stayed with teams for years. Now (most) players follow the dollar, as they're entitled to, and the same with college hoops players looking for playing time. All doing what's in their own best interest.
Another stat, 60% of players transfer down, out of D1. So for many of these guys they do just want to be on the court.
Yes, Khwan Fore is All ACC and All American for Louisville.
To truly answer your question, No.I bet Bryce didn’t get a handshake either.
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Perhaps it’s considered more of a failure because members of this board built him (and others) up to be really talented players who would contribute immediately to the program.
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Wojcik= success
Gustavson= probable success, though he’s not getting much time anymore.
Yates is okay. Should never start.
Grace plays because we don’t have anyone else.
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