ROAD WIN

[LongTimeLurkerFirstTimePoster]

We went on the road, without our leading scorer shot 90% from the line (looking at you SpiderRick) and lead the game for the last 35 minutes. More posts about Joe Lunardi, the Missouri State football buyout and other stuff.

Glad to see Gilly and Nick shot the 3 well and we responded to Davidson's second half run. The FTs is off the chart.

Goose incredible D--great to see you shooting well Woj.

And for the record, since some dopes out there think the only fans left fall into one of 5 categories, I don't fall in any of them.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

I am not familiar with these 5 categories, but congratulations for your exclusivity.

 

[urfan1]

good post until the last comment

 

[Hanca]

Fan 1 can tell the difference between thoughtful comment and blind adoration

 

[Eight Legger]

Road wins are great, and we looked pretty good, but Davidson is trash this year so let's not blow it out of proportion. We did what we were supposed to do and what we needed to do. That was good. We should also go to Fairfax and beat Mason this weekend. Let's do that next.

 

[LongTimeLurkerFirstTimePoster]

good post until the last comment

sorry you think that, but don't you think its odd, the amount of negative posts that appear if we go on the road and win w/o our leading scorer?


My last comment was based on a tweet exchange that Jeff Goodman had last night about Richmond.

 

[I-M-UR]

Mckillop will have them competitive before the tournament

 

[VT4700]

sorry you think that, but don't you think its odd, the amount of negative posts that appear if we go on the road and win w/o our leading scorer?


My last comment was based on a tweet exchange that Jeff Goodman had last night about Richmond.

Reading the board, you would have thought we lost by 20 last night. It is unreal.

 

[SpiderTrap]

Its a good win on the road without our leading scorer. Some cause for concern in that in our game against St. Louis we had the dreaded scoring drought in the 2nd half which loss the game for us and put it out of reach and we did this again twice with Davidson where we had opportunities to put it away and just couldn't do it. The last 5 minutes before the half were not good - think we were up 12-13 and didn't score for about 4 minutes and luckily neither did Davidson. But that was a good opportunity to maybe go up 15 or 20 before half and really put the game out of reach. Then to close the game - up 15 with about 7 minutes left and we let them back in the game by not scoring for the next 5 minutes. Only reason this concerns me is because this is what we were used to seeing in years past - where no lead was safe was us because we knew this dreaded drought was coming. And we had not seen it much this year - but have now experienced it in back to back games, and one resulted in a loss. Hopefully it doesn't continue because against good teams like St. Louis - the result is almost always a L.

 

[wr70beh]

Reading the board, you would have thought we lost by 20 last night. It is unreal.

Winning by 6 against a depleted Davidson team is hardly a statement game.

 

[LongTimeLurkerFirstTimePoster]

Road wins are great, and we looked pretty good, but Davidson is trash this year so let's not blow it out of proportion. We did what we were supposed to do and what we needed to do. That was good. We should also go to Fairfax and beat Mason this weekend. Let's do that next.

EL-never said Davidson was UCLA of the 60s. Winning on the road is hard. No one knew how good Blake was going to be this year (answer: very) and no knew how we would play without him.

We've played 3 games w/o a member of the "big 4"--including Hampton where we missed 2---and we haven't missed a beat.

 

[VT4700]

Its a good win on the road without our leading scorer. Some cause for concern in that in our game against St. Louis we had the dreaded scoring drought in the 2nd half which loss the game for us and put it out of reach and we did this again twice with Davidson where we had opportunities to put it away and just couldn't do it. The last 5 minutes before the half were not good - think we were up 12-13 and didn't score for about 4 minutes and luckily neither did Davidson. But that was a good opportunity to maybe go up 15 or 20 before half and really put the game out of reach. Then to close the game - up 15 with about 7 minutes left and we let them back in the game by not scoring for the next 5 minutes. Only reason this concerns me is because this is what we were used to seeing in years past - where no lead was safe was us because we knew this dreaded drought was coming. And we had not seen it much this year - but have now experienced it in back to back games, and one resulted in a loss. Hopefully it doesn't continue because against good teams like St. Louis - the result is almost always a L.

But, college basketball is full of runs. When you make a run to go up double-digits, you made a lot of shots and the other team missed some. Normally, you will then start missing a few and the other team will make some. It's not very common to be an underdog on the road, go up by double digits, and then win by twenty something. That just doesn't happen often, and should not be expected. I am more impressed with our response after they cut it to 39-36 then the late mini run they made to make the score closer than it was.

 

[97spiderfan]

If anyone wants to crown Mooney, Goodman included, on January 14th for a team that is currently not on most NCAA brackets currently, than go ahead.

I agree we have performed well over the first 17 games, that does not erase the multiple failings of the past 8 years on Mooney's record, nor is it predictive that the second half of the season, potentially sans Francis, will lead us to the promised land of an NCAA bid.

I don't know who Goodman roots for but if whatever team he roots for had a coach who hasn't taken them to the NCAA for 8 straight years and is still employed, he probably would be a little cranky as well. Unless he roots for Penn State though, I doubt he has had that experience.

Last night, was a great road win for all of the reasons listed. Says a lot about this team that they responded as they did and yes will give Mooney props for having them ready to go yesterday.

 

[VT4700]

And, what about the games where we make a comeback, and the other team had a second half drought? Or, the games where we did turn a double digit lead into a 15 or 20+ point win? We never hear anything positive about those, but man, when we go on the road as a dog, and get a double digit lead and only win by 6 because they made some late baskets, we hear about our "dreaded drought". All too predictable.

 

[PhillySpider]

Last night was a workman-like effort. We got the job done. Nothing more, but importantly, nothing less. In any conference road game that's an accomplishment. Best part for me was that I saw a number of folks who seemed ready and willing to take on some more responsibility in Blake's absence. Need to keep that going where 7 rotation guys each up their games a bit to offset the one big loss. I do think we'll be better defensively and on the glass with Goose in there.

Flip side is that Davidson didn't show me much at all, so its hard to get too excited about this or really even know what, if anything, that game tells us about UR.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Reading the board, you would have thought we lost by 20 last night. It is unreal.

 

[SpiderRick]

We went on the road, without our leading scorer shot 90% from the line (looking at you SpiderRick) and lead the game for the last 35 minutes. More posts about Joe Lunardi, the Missouri State football buyout and other stuff.

Glad to see Gilly and Nick shot the 3 well and we responded to Davidson's second half run. The FTs is off the chart.

Goose incredible D--great to see you shooting well Woj.

And for the record, since some dopes out there think the only fans left fall into one of 5 categories, I don't fall in any of them.

Thanks for the shout out...see my comment under the Free Throws thread

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

We've played 3 games w/o a member of the "big 4"--including Hampton where we missed 2---and we haven't missed a beat.

Who are the "big 4?"

 

[SpiderTrap]

And, what about the games where we make a comeback, and the other team had a second half drought? Or, the games where we did turn a double digit lead into a 15 or 20+ point win? We never hear anything positive about those, but man, when we go on the road as a dog, and get a double digit lead and only win by 6 because they made some late baskets, we hear about our "dreaded drought". All too predictable.

You don't hear about them because they have rarely happened with the spiders the past few years against reasobable competition (team likes Cal St. Northridge and McNeese St. are not reasonable opponents). And I agree - I don't expect this to happen a lot of the time because when you play good teams, the game should be close.

But you can't deny the last few years, even when we were winning by 10-15 points with 10 minutes left, the lead never felt safe with UR. We always seemed to find a way to let the other team back in the game with these droughts. And all I am saying is this season - we had not seen this. Francis and Sherod have helped because they give us more weapons and Francis alone can create his own shot to get a bucket when needed. But the last two games - Francis went cold against St. Louis and last night he was injured - we experienced these droughts and almost let a Davidson team back in the game.

It is great we won - but gives me concern against a better team, like the upcoming Mason game.

 

[urmite]

Reading the board, you would have thought we lost by 20 last night. It is unreal.

We did lose by 11...
Oh wait that was only the last 5:19 21-10...
We have too many posters who think leads should never shrink, and too many posters who think it is ok for leads to disappear.

 

[I-M-UR]

We did lose by 11...
Oh wait that was only the last 5:19 21-10...
We have too many posters who think leads should never shrink, and too many posters who think it is ok for leads to disappear.

No but we've seen this before, we back off too soon/too much and we put a easy win in jeopardy

 

[KE Spider]

Who are the "big 4?"

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?

 

[spidersfan1]

First of all good win last night but with a little over 5 mins to go in the game they took the air out of the ball, thats why that lead (i think it was around 13 to 15 points) shrunk and only win by 6. They absolutely can't do that, more times then not its going to bite you in the butt. Have to play to win and not to lose, keep attacking and scoring. Also, Grant has got to be more physical but i have been saying this for 3 years now and don't think it's ever going to happen. He is a good passer and usually is pretty good around the rim at touch shots but still misses a lot of layups and he shy's away from contact. I wish he would go hard at the basket and just dunk one time, maybe he misses it but most likely gets fouled. He keeps putting his hands out looking for fouls when he is fading away from contact, sorry but not going to get those calls if your not physical. Rant over..

 

[PhillySpider]

I think there are more concrete reasons we are susceptible to these runs. We are totally shooting dependent. Totally. You can fend off runs by hitting shots obviously, but really good teams play through runs of poorer shooting and minimize them by getting to the line and getting some stick backs off the offensive glass. We aren't going to do either. We are 328th in the country at offensive rebounding and 345th at getting to the FT line. Some will say that's just proof we are soft and some will say that's just evidence of style of play, but there is no doubt in my mind it makes us far more likely to see these runs against us. When we go 5 minutes without a making a jumper or getting a clean shot etc. that being an 11-0 run is far more devastating both in actual score and in momentum than that same run being 11-5 because we garbled together 5 points off drawing some fouls and getting a stick back here and there.

 

[LongTimeLurkerFirstTimePoster]

Who are the "big 4?"

Should have said starting 5.

 

[Gallipoli]

Yes, but when u get a lot of crap on here, sometimes it is hard not to add a last comment. How come you only comment to guys like him or me after we get frustrated enough with the crap we get on here to add a final comment, and never seem to comment to any of the ones who constantly give the crap?

The haters are going to hate.

 

[97spiderfan]

First of all good win last night but with a little over 5 mins to go in the game they took the air out of the ball, thats why that lead (i think it was around 13 to 15 points) shrunk and only win by 6. They absolutely can't do that, more times then not its going to bite you in the butt. Have to play to win and not to lose, keep attacking and scoring. Also, Grant has got to be more physical but i have been saying this for 3 years now and don't think it's ever going to happen. He is a good passer and usually is pretty good around the rim at touch shots but still misses a lot of layups and he shy's away from contact. I wish he would go hard at the basket and just dunk one time, maybe he misses it but most likely gets fouled. He keeps putting his hands out looking for fouls when he is fading away from contact, sorry but not going to get those calls if your not physical. Rant over..

This rant on Grant is spot on. Grant is 6'10 and is always the biggest dude on the court and yet he plays small by shying away from contact, always going for lay-ups. Wish someone could teach him a power move or just go up strong and draw contact. Your never gonna go to the line fading away from contact.

Two plays, I noticed in the past 2 games. He got blocked against SLU trying to do some soft lay-up with a wide open rim. His size, just go up and throw that down two hands. Last night, had another easy dunk on the baseline and instead went for some crazy under the rim reverse lay-up, which he missed.

 

[Marley13]

Is he still hurt?

 

[spider23]

Excellent game by Nick. He was aggressive, made some big shots - and nice steal and coast to coast finish. Glad to see Nick bouncing back after a little slump.

 

[MrTbone]

sorry you think that, but don't you think its odd, the amount of negative posts that appear if we go on the road and win w/o our leading scorer?


My last comment was based on a tweet exchange that Jeff Goodman had last night about Richmond.

So I went back and checked the Davidson thread. Are you talking about negativity during the in game comments, or after? I only saw three postgame comments that I’d classify as negative. The other 15 or so were either complimentary or I’d consider balanced in their criticism or praise.

I don’t put much stock in any of the in game comments. They are all reactionary messages, both positive and negative to game flow. People are going to do that, it’s a chatboard after all.

 

[LKNSPIDER]

Winning by 6 against a depleted Davidson team is hardly a statement game.

That is your opinion.....but Spiders were 5 pt underdogs......Davidson rarely loses on their home court. Spiders have won three of last four on McKillop Court. No other A10 team has!