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Redshirt Requirements in the Patriot League

That’s the policy for this current academic/athletic year. I think next year’s policy isn’t officially out yet. Original JOC article referenced redshirting saying,

“Richmond will continue with 63 scholarships and will keep redshirting players, said Huesman.”

I imagine this is something we discussed before making the move to PL for football as non-medical redshirting is something we heavily rely on.

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Richmond Spiders see 'great fit,' shift from CAA Football to Patriot League

Puzzling and disappointing to UR in the last few years has been CAA Football’s expansion strategy.
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spiderstudent17 said:
That’s the policy for this current academic/athletic year. I think next year’s policy isn’t officially out yet. Original JOC article referenced redshirting saying,

“Richmond will continue with 63 scholarships and will keep redshirting players, said Huesman.”

I imagine this is something we discussed before making the move to PL for football as non-medical redshirting is something we heavily rely on.

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Richmond Spiders see 'great fit,' shift from CAA Football to Patriot League

Puzzling and disappointing to UR in the last few years has been CAA Football’s expansion strategy.
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That’s not a direct quote. Interpretation by JOC. In fact I think instead of “will keep” he should have said “wants to keep” redshirting.

I’d like to have more direct clarity from UR and/or Pat League. It was asked by JOC in original presser but ignored. The answer we got was more philosophizing not that non med redshirting was allowed.

Think this part from different article goes into it a little deeper…

Heppel said the Patriot League does have fifth-year players. That supports Richmond’s desire to redshirt mostly younger Spiders on a regular basis. “Richmond was obviously comfortable with our approach,” she said.

UR coach Russ Huesman made it clear Tuesday that redshirting is a major component of Richmond’s program.

“Recruiting high school players, redshirting them, developing them, bringing them back for their fifth years, all of those things are extremely important here, and we want to continue to do that,” Huesman said.

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Patriot League Commissioner addresses UR addition, expansion, scholarships, etc.

"Conversations between the Patriot League and William & Mary have been going on for decades."
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Clearly our desire. And Pat League does have 5th years. tho a little disingenuous by commish to say that if they only come from medical or exceptions not normal athletic development ones.

Honestly I thought they already allowed regular redshirting but bylaws explicitly say otherwise. Also Heppel comment re “comfortable with our approach” implies the Pat League approach was different than what we’re used to.

Maybe bylaws r changing as I agree I’m sure it was discussed. It’s clear what we desire. But I’m skeptical we can operate exactly as we want re: shirts. Idk. It deserves more explanation. Also, how we adhere to the league’s Academic Index stuff is a separate concern too.
 
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It was discussed on the Lehigh forum. One has to admit, the Lehigh fans are smart. We wouldn't get this level of thought from a JMU fan.

I don’t pretend to know that much about the redshirt rules, other than it allows a student athlete to postpone his four years of eligibility to gain strength and experience as a member of the team. We do it all the time in wrestling.

My very rough count of our football roster shows we have 5 fifth year players, and of course no players listed as having red shirt eligibility. Based on those listed on Richmond’s roster as red shirts, they have 6 fifth year seniors, 16 fourth year juniors, 15 third year sophs, and 19 second year freshmen. They red shirt more than half their roster. Those numbers (plus Richmond being very good) gets us to easily be 10 to 12 point under dogs. Win this and Coach Cahill should be in the running for FCS coach of the year, if he isn’t already.

Going forward it’ll be interesting to see how many of our current freshman class take this as a red shirt year.

 
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In fact, I will go a step further. This is the financial reason for switching to the Patriot. President Hallock saw this as an opportunity to cut costs. He saw this as a cost cutting move. If this is true he and his administration have lied to everyone.

Nothing else makes sense.
 
Gallipoli said:
In fact, I will go a step further. This is the financial reason for switching to the Patriot. President Hallock saw this as an opportunity to cut costs. He saw this as a cost cutting move. If this is true he and his administration have lied to everyone.

Nothing else makes sense.
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That's not what the man said. Why do you stir the pot? If it was strictly a cost cutting move we would have stayed put. It's a bus ride to Campbell, NCAT, Elon, Towson, W&M and Hampton. We obviously weren't playing the northern schools on a consistent basis and therein lies the problem. You see what a diet of that bunch gets you.
 
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Have you spoken to anyone in the administration about this? i have, and I was assured we can continue to redshirt.
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Has there been an official policy change? Why would the rest of the league make a concession to UR that places the rest of the schools at a disadvantage?

Verbal assurances in negotiations are not valid, unless they are accompanied by written policy changes, or at least written statements. These are fair questions.
 
The UR model for Redshirting makes the most sense and is best for the team and the players.
I cannot imagine that there was not some type of written agreement or change to the existing policy
before UR committed to the league change. I am curious to how often the transfer portal is used
by the PL? Is it mostly Ivy League grad transfers or all over the place.
 
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Has there been an official policy change? Why would the rest of the league make a concession to UR that places the rest of the schools at a disadvantage?

Verbal assurances in negotiations are not valid, unless they are accompanied by written policy changes, or at least written statements. These are fair questions.
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The policy you shared was for this academic/athletic year. It appears that it will likely change for the 2025-2026 year.
 
Gallipoli said:
Has there been an official policy change? Why would the rest of the league make a concession to UR that places the rest of the schools at a disadvantage?

Verbal assurances in negotiations are not valid, unless they are accompanied by written policy changes, or at least written statements. These are fair questions.
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I can understand your concern, but I can only share what I have done at this point.
 
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