And I voted today. Let the floodgates open on all. No talking head discussion of understanding of Va open primaries. A coalition of tea baggers/indep/dems who just wanted cantor out. It wasn't just about immigration. It was about getting rid of that arrogant politico. national analysts are totally missing the point.
Re: Hi pleased to meet you, I'm from Va's 7th District
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One of the guys on Fox said rain here suppressed turnout today. Unreal.
Democracy can be gratifying when you least expect it.
Democracy can be gratifying when you least expect it.
Dems are putting up another RMC prof, Should be a real black and gold classic.
Reading around this morning the analysts, including Sabato, don't get it. M I've seen that comment a few times and it's so funny because the GOP always hopes for rainy day general elections. My last look at the precinct breakdown was that cantor took orange, spotsylvania and the west end of richmond ( Windsor farms to UR ). Cantor didn't even take Salisbury where they lined their streets with empty chairs, quickly removed by the morning of the day after the last presidential election .
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Reading around this morning the analysts, including Sabato, don't get it. M I've seen that comment a few times and it's so funny because the GOP always hopes for rainy day general elections. My last look at the precinct breakdown was that cantor took orange, spotsylvania and the west end of richmond ( Windsor farms to UR ). Cantor didn't even take Salisbury where they lined their streets with empty chairs, quickly removed by the morning of the day after the last presidential election .
This post was edited on 6/11 5:44 AM by Anachnoid
just a good, solid reason to have term limits on all of these people who want to make a career on the tax payer. in addition, the fact that a rep only serves for two years is a mess, he or she does not even get there and settled in before having to start campaigning again. feel most of these people get a seat and then are overcome to work the system, become arrogant and hard to beat. we need some fine tuning of our system but the people who would do that are the people who don't want to do that....
Cantor was in a pickle. If a convention had chosen, the angry teabaggers would have packed the place like they did earlier when he was booed. With the open primary, he just got all the angry voters. The local pre election discussions I overheard or was involved with was that hey, we can all vote on 6/10...who is dave brat? Who cares, I'm voting for him. All the pre-election polls were flawed as they polled GOPers, no consideration of the regular or otherwise voter. That's want arrogant Sabato and the others missed. Similar to the pollsters missing millenials and their cellphones by calling only landlines. All the pundits had to do was drive the neighborhoods and see what signage was up. Cantor's early radio ads were a constant reminder of what he is. He probably should have just stayed away. Oh... WS I am hoping for more seismic shifts on both sides. I am hoping a true candidate for 2016 has not yet emerged. I don't know if a Coolidge would be an answer but sure would be refreshing.
would really hate to see another clinton or bush involved, our country needs to move on and don't think we can until those two names are gone forever. if jeb or hillary really want to help this country, they will quit politics and that would be a great start. attended a dinner once where sabato was the keynote and he did admit that he was a lifelong democrat but his arrogance really came through almost like a politician. he has carved out a great spot for himself and give him credit for that.
You're spot on, although i wish you'd stop with the "angry teabaggers" part.
I have never voted in a House Primary before but i got sick and tired of getting mass mail from Eric Cantor about Dave Brat. A 6 Term Congressman should be able to send me mass mail about his own accomplishments.
Political views aside, I don't think Cantor has ever been an easy-to-identify-with guy. His public persona always has seemed very staged and plastic. He rarely comes across as genuine. He was polished and handpicked to replace Bliley, and he just slid into that role as if he'd been groomed for it his entire adult life, which may not have been far from the truth. Give me a candidate on either side who I believe is genuine, and whether or not I agree with all of his or her views, I am usually more likely to support that person than the alternative. I think the 7th District voters felt the same way.
^^I think that's all accurate too.
It really is remarkable that someone that really isn't that 'liked' in their district could end up in such a position of House leadership.
It really is remarkable that someone that really isn't that 'liked' in their district could end up in such a position of House leadership.
would not use redundant just repeated, repeated by the press, ie., democrats, both the term tea baggers as opposed to tea party and angry. some do not understand or want to face where our country is speeding and though i am not a member of the tea party nor do is send them or any party any money, feel they have the country first not a party or anything else while others twiddle their thumbs as we approach disaster. Eight, personally do not care at all if a politician has any personality or can stand in front of a camera and repeat words written by others, just want someone who has common sense and does not break under pressure applied by their leaders to vote only one way instead of the way they know is best.
I really don't understand the overall derision of the Tea Party but surmise it is rooted in fear. Disdain for Sarah Palin probably has to do with it too.
I don't believe I'm "One the Fringe" and really don't believe the core tenets of the Tea Party (Even though it really isn't a "Party") are either. Candidly, i'd probably have one of those Don't Tread on Me License Plates if i didn't think it would cause an argument with my wife.
Tea Party Vision and Principles
I don't believe I'm "One the Fringe" and really don't believe the core tenets of the Tea Party (Even though it really isn't a "Party") are either. Candidly, i'd probably have one of those Don't Tread on Me License Plates if i didn't think it would cause an argument with my wife.
Tea Party Vision and Principles
Mo - it's just a typical liberal viewpoint = everyone is allowed to have their own opinions as long as it is the same as theirs. Anything else and you are a racist/sexist/homophobe/etc. There is no more judgmental and condescending group than the American progressive.
Cantor lost because he was pretty much universally disliked by his district. Democrats didn't like him (naturally) and the base of the Republican party which he attempted to pander to, saw his pandering for what it was.
I do think there were a fair amount of Democrats who went to the polls yesterday to vote against Cantor, not only because they dislike him, but because Brat will be an easier target to beat. Dems had no chance to beat Cantor, they at least have a chance, albeit an uphill one to be Brat. I think if the Dem's had run someone like Wayne Powell who gave him a fair run for his money last time around, they could win the seat, but all they were able to drum up, was some political newbie.
I don't think this was an election about immigration as the national media has postulated., While Brat pummelled Cantor on that issue, I don't see this as driving issue right now in the 7th district. What droves this election was people across the political spectrums simple dislike for Eric Cantor.
I do think there were a fair amount of Democrats who went to the polls yesterday to vote against Cantor, not only because they dislike him, but because Brat will be an easier target to beat. Dems had no chance to beat Cantor, they at least have a chance, albeit an uphill one to be Brat. I think if the Dem's had run someone like Wayne Powell who gave him a fair run for his money last time around, they could win the seat, but all they were able to drum up, was some political newbie.
I don't think this was an election about immigration as the national media has postulated., While Brat pummelled Cantor on that issue, I don't see this as driving issue right now in the 7th district. What droves this election was people across the political spectrums simple dislike for Eric Cantor.
M thanks for the link. I agree with many of their positions on issues, but not their rhetoric. I like that they state they don't take stands on social issues, so I will be watching that part with keen interest, and note per a link to one of the local groups that local group does take a position on social issues. As you don't care for my use of the term "angry teabagger" , I question their constant reference to "Obamacare." The site offers a lot of words about what we would like for healthcare but no concrete plan. The ACA is what we got after 2-3 years years of the current administration. Cantor was up there for howmany years and didn't do anything, nor proposed any improvement as he just kept saying "no." I'm hoping Brat goes after Wall Street and the Health Insurance industry. I wonder where those checks will going now since Cantor won't be around to cash them. What do illegal immigrants and big corporations have in common? They don't keep their money in the communities and send it overseas. I'd like to see that fixed. It would lower my real estate taxes. This election result is just a little ray of sunshine piercing the darkness of Mordor on the northside of the Potomac.
first and foremost, everyone in washington takes money from pacs, groups and individuals with agendas so that is just a wash. what do you want to happen to wall street, what is your, not parroting communists/socialists, your plan? corporations, business need to make money to reinvest, grow but when their own government makes it tough on them, they look for other avenues. if you don't think that business is a good neighbor, a giver to the communitities in which they reside, you have your head in the sand and you don't read or hear about half that they actually do locally and this happens all over the country. the probs we have are not business or corporations or wall street, it is our government, unleashed and running wild, amok, being involved in too many things, micromanaging, spending too much money which is ours and which they do not even have. if you reign in government, then i will say go after business, whatever it is you wish to do with it.
To my point, there was a polling survey on election day in the 7th district. Cantor's approval rating was 30%. A 30% approval rating does not get you reelected, no matter how gerrymandered your district is and how much money you have for your reelection.
Anach, FYI.
Also, it's not like people are calling it "Obama'sScrotumCare" a la the Tea Bagger reference.
This post was edited on 6/12 10:41 AM by MolivaManiac
"Obamacare" - Apparently, It's OK.
Also, it's not like people are calling it "Obama'sScrotumCare" a la the Tea Bagger reference.
This post was edited on 6/12 10:41 AM by MolivaManiac
"Obamacare" - Apparently, It's OK.
don't reside in VA any longer and must confess that even though i do vote in all general elections, have never voted in a primary, ever. not sure what credibility you can place in a polling survey during a primary, not many people vote, you have cross overs from other parties attempting to mess up the other party. would seriously doubt that 30% is anywhere near accurate based on prior elections of this guy. wish term limits threw these people out rather than primaries.
Shoot, Obama calls it Obamacare now. Don't think that is an insult any more. And I would actually give the Tea party props if they could develop a unique scrotal related moniker for it.
