Policies on replacing COVID teams in NCAA tournament

[SFspidur]

NCAA policies on potentially replacing teams that have to bow out of the dance due to COVID:

- Any replacement has to happen within 48 hours of the bracket being released...so by 6pm of that Tuesday after Selection Sunday.

- Prior to the bracket release, an auto bid can be replaced by a substitute team from their conference based on the conference's AQ selection criteria. Once the bracket has been released, only single-bid conferences can go this route.

- The first four at-large teams left out of the initial bracket will be seeded 1-4 and will be available to replace any auto bids from a multi-bid conference or at-large teams that need to pull out in the 48-hour window following the bracket release. They would be slotted in as a direct replacement for the withdrawing team, wherever they're seeded. The first four out teams will remain slotted in as 1-seeds in the NIT unless they get upgraded to the dance.

- Once that Tuesday night deadline passes, there will be no replacements. If any team has to withdraw after that time, their opponent will simply advance via no-contest.

NCAA announces contingency plans for tournament teams forced to withdraw due to issues related to COVID-19

The NCAA Division I Men’s and Women’s Basketball Committees have determined how they will handle various scenarios related to a team needing to withdraw from the

www.ncaa.org

 

[712_VT]

I have a feeling this is how UR will get into the dance. By being one of the first four out that gets in due to another team not being able to play. I wouldn’t want to get in that way but it would be the most Mooney way to get in ever.

 

[8legs1dream]

I have a feeling this is how UR will get into the dance. By being one of the first four out that gets in due to another team not being able to play. I wouldn’t want to get in that way but it would be the most Mooney way to get in ever.

I wouldn't really like to see us coast in on a technicality but dammit, the drought needs to end and a big part of me simply doesn't care how it happens as long as it happens. Of course that would give the Mooniephiles all the fuel they need to lock him in for another decade. I feel like our seniors deserve to dance though regardless of my feelings on CM.

 

[GKiller]

I was talking to someone recently & I brought up that I expected NCAA to have backup teams as a policy so this is not a surprise.

The problem for us is it might be used as a crutch...see look how close we were!....when the odds r any team will do all in its power not to back out. They’ll play with decreased roster b4 pulling out all the way. They would need to take a complete covid hit to not play. Watch the contract tracing will not be as robust. They’ll just hold out a player or two and say contract tracing didn’t affect anyone else.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Backing in would be the most Mooney thing ever, true.
And I would be just fine with it!

Can you imagine if it's a 1 seed that has to bow out - and we are the first team out?
We can tell our grandkids about that time UR was a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament.

 

[DTSpider]

How long of an extension does Mooney get it f we back into the tournament? 5 years, 10?

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

How long of an extension does Mooney get it f we back into the tournament? 5 years, 10?

Lifetime.

 

[spiderman]

now we're bashing Mooney for a backing-in scenario that hasn't even happened.

 

[Eight Legger]

So once the bracket comes out, there can only be 4 teams substituted in? That seems a little strange. Why not seed the first 12 teams out or something, just to be safe?

 

[SpiderTrap]

It sounds like you must be 1 of the first 4 left out to be a replacement. I don't see us in that group just yet. I think we need to win out vs. St. Louis and St. Joes and likely win 2 games in the A10 tourney - depending on our seed.

We win 4 games - our record will be 17-5 and I think that puts us right in the mix for the last 4 out consideration. But as mentioned above - that would mean a team would have to say they can't play and I would imagine teams will play with a shortened roster before bow out of the tourney - if the decision is up to them. Maybe the NCAA steps in and says - No - you can't play with a roster of 6 guys, 3 of which are walk-ons.

 

[spiderman]

if we win the next 4, I'll be surprised if we aren't already in. it's possible I guess.

 

[urmite]

if we win the next 4, I'll be surprised if we aren't already in. it's possible I guess.

If we win at SLU, Home SJU, Neutral SLU, at VCU, and lose Neutral SBU I guess we will be in next 12 out
{shrug} 😁

 

[Eight Legger]

if we win the next 4, I'll be surprised if we aren't already in. it's possible I guess.

Agreed. Unless we lost in the final to Fordham or a bid-stealer like that.

 

[plydogg]

Seems like this is just a way for them to have Duke, Kentucky, and two other high-profile schools be the first 4 out and guarantee they make the tournament

 

[GKiller]

Agreed. Unless we lost in the final to Fordham or a bid-stealer like that.

Anyone outside VCU & Bona would really be a bid stealer. Losing to anyone in final besides those two creates a problem imo. Because then u would be going to 4 A10 teams with us the 4th. After bona vcu and whoever wins auto. Now I know they say they don't give bids to leagues but it's the A10 the same rules don't apply to the P6 conferences as the A10.

Last year was different, we had better metrics, had a bigger win Wisconsin, and were 2nd in A10. I just have a really hard time seeing committee go 4 deep in A10. I would be glad to be wrong.

We also need a NET in low 40s I'd say. Can we get there? With 4 straight and a couple good ones in there yes, but then u lose in finals and it bumps down to mid 40s. While it's not all NET, and maybe this year it means less, I think it becomes troublesome at the range.

So I will hold out hope the numbers fall in our favor with a winning streak. SLU is obviously a must win. But I'm banking on we really need to win the A10 tourney.

 

[Gallipoli]

I have a feeling this is how UR will get into the dance. By being one of the first four out that gets in... due to another team not being able to play....

Gonzaga out, Richmond in.

 

[SpiderTrap]

With limited OOC schedules for mid-majors like UR - I think this year more than ever your going to see P5 schools eat up at large bids. I mean - every website out there now is talking up Duke like they have a chance to get back in the tourney bubble. Duke is 9-6 and 11-8 overall. And with the tourney being cancelled last season - they will want big name teams like Duke in it to grab back viewership and fans if they are allowed in games at any point.

I think if we win next 4 - we have a good shot, but a lot will depend on other teams, like Duke and how they fair down the stretch. This is not the year to be on the bubble with a bunch of other P5 programs.

 

[fatherspider]

This tourney is going to be silly. There will likely be forfeits and teams dropping out in the middle of the dance. Stupid stupid over cautious bullshit.

 

[spiderman]

And with the tourney being cancelled last season - they will want big name teams like Duke in it to grab back viewership and fans if they are allowed in games at any point.

might happen, but stupid imo for the NCAA to think that way. fans will watch. it's March madness. of course they'll watch no matter who is playing. and no problem filling any seats they're allowed to fill either, which won't be many.

that said ... Duke is playing well and might be deserving of a bid anyway when this is over.

 

[ncspiderfan]

might happen, but stupid imo for the NCAA to think that way. fans will watch. it's March madness. of course they'll watch no matter who is playing. and no problem filling any seats they're allowed to fill either, which won't be many.

that said ... Duke is playing well and might be deserving of a bid anyway when this is over.

They sure seemed to get better when their NBA talent decided to op out.

 

[spiderman]

They sure seemed to get better when their NBA talent decided to op out.

heard Boeheim vs Bilas on that. pretty funny hearing Boeheim so sure of himself, then admit he's never seen the kid play.

 

[RichmondNative]

....this year more than ever your going to see P5 schools eat up at large bids.

No doubt about it.

 

[RichmondNative]

...that would mean a team would have to say they can't play and I would imagine teams will play with a shortened roster before bow out of the tourney - if the decision is up to them. Maybe the NCAA steps in and says - No - you can't play with a roster of 6 guys, 3 of which are walk-ons.

Teams are not going to willfully give up spots in the tournament because I am sure the coaches bonuses depend on their team actually playing in the game. If there was one “substitution” I would be surprised, but the NCAA has to have a plan for it. I would be less surprised if there was a forfeit somewhere along the way.

 

[Eight Legger]

Anyone outside VCU & Bona would really be a bid stealer. Losing to anyone in final besides those two creates a problem imo. Because then u would be going to 4 A10 teams with us the 4th. After bona vcu and whoever wins auto. Now I know they say they don't give bids to leagues but it's the A10 the same rules don't apply to the P6 conferences as the A10.

Last year was different, we had better metrics, had a bigger win Wisconsin, and were 2nd in A10. I just have a really hard time seeing committee go 4 deep in A10. I would be glad to be wrong.

We also need a NET in low 40s I'd say. Can we get there? With 4 straight and a couple good ones in there yes, but then u lose in finals and it bumps down to mid 40s. While it's not all NET, and maybe this year it means less, I think it becomes troublesome at the range.

So I will hold out hope the numbers fall in our favor with a winning streak. SLU is obviously a must win. But I'm banking on we really need to win the A10 tourney.

If VCU loses at Davidson, which I expect to happen, and then loses its first a10 games, which I don't expect to happen, I think it's toast.

Bona is an interesting case because it's basically just being graded on its a10 performance. But it would probably take three losses in a row here for it to miss a bid.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Seems like this is just a way for them to have Duke, Kentucky, and two other high-profile schools be the first 4 out and guarantee they make the tournament

You use that word "guarantee." I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

now we're bashing Mooney for a backing-in scenario that hasn't even happened.

Interesting, but no.

 

[spiderman]

sorry Chop. "bashing" wasn't the right word, but you get the point.

"I wouldn’t want to get in that way but it would be the most Mooney way to get in ever."
"Of course that would give the Mooniephiles all the fuel they need to lock him in for another decade."
"The problem for us is it might be used as a crutch...see look how close we were!"
"Backing in would be the most Mooney thing ever, true."
"How long of an extension does Mooney get it f we back into the tournament? 5 years, 10?"

 

[SpiderTrap]

I think the question on teams bowing out for COVID is - who makes the call? Does a the NCAA decide or does the team decide? If its the team - they will never bow out. I would play with 3 kids and suit up 2 managers or students from the rec gym if needed. BUT - if the NCAA steps in and says - you don't have enough to be "competitive" - then that could get interesting.
I agree - people are going to watch regardless this year because of lack of sports out there. But just have a feeling - with limited OOC options for mid-majors, the P5 will have a leg up because their resumes get bolstered with league opponents, which is the opposite for mids.

 

[ChoppinBroccoli]

If its the team - they will never bow out. I would play with 3 kids and suit up 2 managers or students from the rec gym if needed.

 

[SpiderRick]

If one team is substituted for another, I wonder which school gets the $$?

 

[SFspidur]

If one team is substituted for another, I wonder which school gets the $$?

Almost certainly the replacement team. The withdrawn team won't be participating in the tournament at all. But yes, it certainly creates quite the incentive for teams to stay in if at all possible.

 

[Gallipoli]

...that said ... Duke is playing well and might be deserving of a bid anyway when this is over.

Any team that unilaterally backs out of an out of conference game, just because the coach does not want his team to lose, is not deserving of a bid to play in any post season game.

 

[DTSpider]

There is no doubt that the powers that be would prefer Duke & Michigan State in.

 

[SFspidur]

The powers that be may not be able to take Duke.

 

[GKiller]

The powers that be may not be able to take Duke.

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Hey we're 1 small step closer to the NIT holy grail! I don't see Duke choosing to play in NIT.

 

[RichmondNative]

The powers that be may not be able to take Duke.

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Florida St with an extra bye. I guess this won’t be the last time we see this in a 2021 tournament.

 

[spiderman]

can you imagine being the kid who tests positive and ends a team's season? that's brutal.

 

[SFspidur]

And he's apparently a walk-on...

 

[Eight Legger]

"Was" a walk-on, most likely after this...

 

[8legs1dream]

imagine having an exit interview with Coach Satan after that.