He certainly would have been better than JMA, I don't think anyone can dispute that. Therefore, we would have been a better team with him than without him.
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pretty good story here. he dropped out of Princeton in 2015-16 to rehab and work because the Ivy League doesn't allow medical redshirts.
the guy's never been healthy after those two knee surgeries. he wouldn't have been healthier here.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ps-battling-injuries-and-adversity/394521002/
the guy's never been healthy after those two knee surgeries. he wouldn't have been healthier here.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...ps-battling-injuries-and-adversity/394521002/
Fire 05 and Fan1! Squeaky clean guys, but they're not getting the job done. Just look at the last few recruiting classes of posters.
05 and Fan1, you have my vote! Thank you for your service!! It is appreciated and I see you as tolerate and even handed.
The basketball board has become a frigging joke. Don't know why I even bothered to come back to it this year. I don't believe CM is the man for what we ALL want, but the constant bashing of the man (which I have done myself, but not ad nauseam) is highly irritating and makes visiting this board like going to see the doctor for a lobotomy.
What if we try something different - only post about something you haven't posted about before? (Wow, wide open door, think I'm gonna regret saying that). I mean I don't need to hear how you personally believe CM sucks for the 10,000th time.
Rant over. Thank you for your indulgence.
The basketball board has become a frigging joke. Don't know why I even bothered to come back to it this year. I don't believe CM is the man for what we ALL want, but the constant bashing of the man (which I have done myself, but not ad nauseam) is highly irritating and makes visiting this board like going to see the doctor for a lobotomy.
What if we try something different - only post about something you haven't posted about before? (Wow, wide open door, think I'm gonna regret saying that). I mean I don't need to hear how you personally believe CM sucks for the 10,000th time.
Rant over. Thank you for your indulgence.
I'm not a particularly big fan of this thread. I think both 05 and Fan1 are great, and are doing a fine job managing us through a particularly difficult time, particularly when they themselves have opinions and passion that they are most likely tempering, one way or another.
I was once told that entering a message board is like going into someone's living room, and that you should behave accordingly. I do not always do this, but, nevertheless, I do think we need to consider this at times as a reminder of how we are coming across.
I was once told that entering a message board is like going into someone's living room, and that you should behave accordingly. I do not always do this, but, nevertheless, I do think we need to consider this at times as a reminder of how we are coming across.
Hmmmm, not sure where in my original post I said Fan1 and '05 were not doing an acceptable job??? I was just suggesting a third wheel from the Anti-Mooney side of things. Yes, my nomination of VT was a little over the top for desired affect. He may not be the best candidate. I did feel that the contingent of us that hold Mooney to a moderate expectation were being unfairly targetted at times.
I don't know if Hans Brase would have helped us last year. What I do know is that when we didn't get Hans (or several other potential grad transfers we were interested in), we had to settle for JMA and he did absolutely nothing for us.
So, Hans is a good example of the recruiting battles that Mooney needs to win. When we identify a guy as one of our top guys we want to bring in, than we need to be able to close on him and win that recruiting battle.
We have 2 more open ships and have clear needs for a back-up point guard and I would argue another PF type player given. One of those at the least needs to be an immediately eligible player who can make an impact. It can not be JMA or Kweisi type player. If it is, please stop telling me, that our recruiting is better.
Yes, agree. I am very happy with the transfer from Wagner, but that helps the season after the one coming up. I totally agree that we need two immediate impact players for this year....OR convince Fore to stay and an impact inside guy. And by impact I am not shooting for stars - but someone that is proven and can play 20 minutes a game if needed at the 4 or 5. Not asking for that much, but I want to see it.
we know we'll have a 7-8 man rotation at the end of the day. we know 6 of them for sure and we assume Sal is a strong #7. so we're realistically only getting one more guy that plays a reasonable role out of the 2 remaining openings plus the 3 redshirt freshmen.
way too many people on this board write off those redshirts because they were redshirted. after being in the system and school and weight room for a year, I think they've got a big advantage over whoever we bring in now. I'm betting one of those 3 earns time next season.
way too many people on this board write off those redshirts because they were redshirted. after being in the system and school and weight room for a year, I think they've got a big advantage over whoever we bring in now. I'm betting one of those 3 earns time next season.
Fair enough. I have been pretty firmly established in the "change" camp, and I would say that I have not felt unfairly targeted.
The transfer, even though he can’t play next year, will take some of the wear and tear off of Jacob in practices. He will also keep Jacob on his toes playing defense against him.
Technically, we had a 7 man rotation last year. But really, it was a 5 man rotation because once our starters went out, it was a significant downgrade to our bench. Also last year was a bit of anomoly that we did not suffer any significant injuries that kept any of our guys out for extended times. We should not count of that.
So, as I see it we have 4 starters level players: Gilyard, Buck, Nick, and Grant.
We have 2 rotation guys, who are probably at best 7 and 8 on an 8 man rotation in JJ and Cayo.
That means we need another starter level player and a top level 6th man. JJ is fine for a 6th man role if we want to win 12 games next year, but if we want to compete for a postseason appearance, we need to upgrade. I would say the same for Cayo in a starting role, as some have been suggesting.
Only way Cayo starts is if Mooney craps out with these last 2 open schollies and can't find a JUCO, grad transfer, or impact level freshman who can contribute immediately. That would portend another year similar to the one we just had.
no surprise that I'm more optimistic than you. Cayo will continue to get better, and I have no idea why you aren't higher on Sal based on his rankings, reviews, and the high level of competition he played in HS. and after those 2 we have depth with Tomas and Phoenix. we're in much better shape at the 4 than last year.
What makes you think ford and verbinskis will be contributors? I think there was a reason neither of them played this year.
we expected a lot from Solly, plus we had Paul and JMA. add those 3 to Julius, Khwan, Nick, Buck, Grant, and Jacob ... there wasn't going to be much time for others. we kept Nathan active but decided to extend the others' eligibility instead of burning it over a few minutes.
just because it didn't work out for some earlier recruits who didn't play as true freshmen doesn't mean it'll never work out. if say Tomas has prepped last year and we landed him today, we'd be hopeful. so I say give him a chance.
just because it didn't work out for some earlier recruits who didn't play as true freshmen doesn't mean it'll never work out. if say Tomas has prepped last year and we landed him today, we'd be hopeful. so I say give him a chance.
Hoping the Wagner kid turns out to be another TJ Cline. But why do we always seem to be getting them from lower leagues? Didn't UVA just have a couple transfer? Why can't we attract P5 or at least something comparable to the A10.
Even the decommit whose brother goes here didn't have Richmond on his radar.
Even the decommit whose brother goes here didn't have Richmond on his radar.
I'm drawing a blank ... what other transfer besides TJ came from a lower league?
Don't believe he was referring to graduate transfers. lol
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Kwesi and JMA from recent memory. Of course we also had Marshall who came from ACC.
We need good players period. Doesn't matter what conference they are from.
We need good players period. Doesn't matter what conference they are from.
yes, I was talking about full transfers. grad transfers aren't really transfers. they're free agents looking for a one year deal.
trying to remember our incoming transfers I've got TJ, Marshall Wood, Oumar Sylla, Tony Dobbins, Greg Stevenson, and Kinte Smith. that's as far as I go. all but TJ (and now Blake Francis) were from higher conferences. and pretty much all worked out pretty well.
trying to remember our incoming transfers I've got TJ, Marshall Wood, Oumar Sylla, Tony Dobbins, Greg Stevenson, and Kinte Smith. that's as far as I go. all but TJ (and now Blake Francis) were from higher conferences. and pretty much all worked out pretty well.
We have attracted a P5 transfer, Marshal Wood. Give me a proven D1 player from a "lower" conference every day of the week over a P5 bench warmer. The name on the jersey doesn't matter, the player's basketball ability is what matters and getting recruited to a P5 team and subsequently sitting on the bench is not a good sign in terms of basketball ability.
If you want to know how a team made largely of P5 transfers fares in the A10 look no further than La Salle over the past 3 seasons. Pookie, BJ Johnson, Price, Demetrius Henry all transferred down from P5 schools, such as Syracuse. La Salle put together an amazing 37 - 56 record over that time frame.
Take a look at TJ Cline and Matt Mobley, both players who were great at "lower" level schools and became incredible after transferring up to the A10. Blake seems to be in that mold, at least statistically, and is much more likely to be a big contributor to a successful A10 team than someone who spent all their time on a P5 bench.
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Oumar was from Valpo, definitely lower conference. So was jamaal Scott (Cal Poly). The others are certainly better conferences.
I think the more relevant question would be where is CM getting them from. He’s been incredibly inactive in getting transfers (6 In 13 seasons, all of which have come in the past four years). All but one have been from lower tier leagues than the A10.
Tarrant era:
Milton Bell - Parade all american, prob a top 30 type player, xferred from Georgetown but never played
Terry Connolly - Xferred from DII maybe? Excellent player
Chris Fleming - Xferred from UCONN. Heck of a shooter - once held the record for 3 pointers made in NCAA tourney game.
Milton Bell - Parade all american, prob a top 30 type player, xferred from Georgetown but never played
Terry Connolly - Xferred from DII maybe? Excellent player
Chris Fleming - Xferred from UCONN. Heck of a shooter - once held the record for 3 pointers made in NCAA tourney game.
